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Am I and DH being unfair

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MumTeapot5 · 08/01/2026 12:24

New here.
As the title says, are we being unfair with eldest daughter, hear me out.
Family of 7, 2 adults, 3 children 4-14 and daughter 19 and her long term boyfriend of 5 years.
We moved into a new house mid 2025 as our old house was too small to fit our family in comfortably and we were looking actively anyway and our ideal house came on the market so we went ahead. My eldest daughter was given an upstairs bedroom of her own as each child was, but said she would rather have the downstairs bedroom (was previously a 2nd living room) for whatever reason that me and DH were going to have so all the kids were upstairs but we agreed and all went ahead and all seemed fine as she’s at an age were she could be trusted. That was my 1st mistake I guess, but I’ll come back to that.
My 2nd mistake was allowing her boyfriend to stay over a few nights a week now we had a bigger house and they have been together since they were 14 and in high school together on the agreement that she made sure any mess they made or any washing of his she was to do with her own and they tidy up after themselves.
So back to my first mistake, as I said she has the downstairs bedroom. This room has its own door off the hallway and one of the walls separate the dining room at the back of house. The first few weeks nothing was ever said but the past few weeks she keeps moaning that we are waking her up on a weekend. Now I’d understand if it was really early but she said we never get a lie in past lunch time ( I kid you not ) 🫠 her reasons to this are a list. So she or her boyfriend hears the youngest playing downstairs or singing along to songs that she likes, be that in the living room or dining room when I’m in the kitchen. She hears the noise in the kitchen from cooking/turning on the washer/drier/unloading dishwasher or whatnot. She hears people walking past her room in the hallway, she hears the dog bark etc. Now by no mean are we the quietest family ever but our other children are not elephants that stomp around or are overly loud. Myself and DH have spoken to her about how she can’t expect us all to whisper and tip toe around until gone lunchtime on a weekend especially if we are going out somewhere and getting sorted as we work full time and the dog is a dog and occasionally barks 🤷🏼‍♀️ we have offered to change rooms so she could be upstairs but she said that would be worse as our teen son likes to watch TV or play on his Xbox in his room occasionally and our other teen daughter is always chatting to her friends if we are having a chilled weekend. We tend to hear them from around 10ish but like I said they are not loud or causing a disturbance.
2nd mistake was allowing the boyfriend to stay over. As I said it was agreed that if they tidy up after themselves and do their own washing and she pays keep then we wouldn’t have an issue. I’d say in the last 5 weeks so before Xmas I have been getting up to dishes being left from them cooking if they didn’t want the same meals as us, wet washing in the machine if she’s used it at night, which I will hang up or pop in the tumble drier so I can do our washing, then she moans that her boyfriend says that he feels weird that me or DH are touching his socks/underwear etc. Bear in mind I have a teen son and a husband whose pants we wash and get out to dry regular. I’ve told her if he feels weird then they either wait for their washing to be done and hang it out or move to the drier once the cycle is done or he bags it up and he can do it on the days he is at his home as it’s not like I stand there looking at his pants and socks and judging them 🙈 I just take them out and pop them in the drier. They are being sloppy and not tidying up in general and I am starting to loose my patience.
We told her in December while it was Xmas not to stress to much about paying keep as we knew she was buying presents etc and going out with friends for meals/drinks so thought we was being nice. She’s now turned around last night and said £30 a week isn’t fair of us to ask from her (she works full time and does overtime occasionally) and we told her that £30 is fair as she’s eating the food we buy, using electricity/gas/broadband/household supplies etc. She’s stormed off into her room last night and said we are unfair and she won’t be paying us £30 anymore she will pay £15.
Just looking for some advice really to see if we are being awful parents setting certain rules and charging her keep? Also how would you tell your child if they don’t pay the £30 then they will have to buy their own food etc. Obviously we can’t stop her using the shower etc but she seems to have become very entitled lately since we moved. I’m seriously considering telling her that her boyfriend is no longer welcome to stay overnight anymore.
Sorry it’s been very long winded but thought it would be best to put the facts down as they are x

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MrsChristmasHasResigned · 08/01/2026 20:36

I dont care how old someone is, if they live under my roof, they follow my rules. Different if it is a partner or someone playing an equal role in maintaining the house. And I am not a dictator - but I certainly would not be tiptoeing around at noon because someone wanted a downstairs room and feels the whole house should revolve around her schedule.

dgwhatisthis · 08/01/2026 20:39

You are more than fair and very generous. If you want downstairs, shift the rooms around. She's not happy either way anyway. If she doesn't like how things are, she can make other arrangements. Her boyfriend has practically moved in with you. He should pay too.

AgingLikeGazpacho · 09/01/2026 14:43

Time for her to move out and enter the real world by the sounds of it!

If funds allow, perhaps set her up with a deposit and then leave the rest of the arrangements to her. You can support her on the sidelines but it sounds like she needs more independence and to grow up a bit

Cosyblankets · 09/01/2026 14:52

What an entitled little madam she is.
Dishes in the sink in the morning? Get her /them up out of bed to do it there and then.
Clothes in the washing machine? Dump the wet washing on the bed.
£30 a week? Does she have any idea how much things cost? Sit down with the bills with her. And if he's saying more than the odd night he pays too

MumTeapot5 · 09/01/2026 16:17

So just to update. We sat her down last night and told her that from now on the boyfriend stays one night a week if she pays her keep, if she doesn’t then no stay overs. I’ve also added that she will be paying £100 a week and does her own food shop and that if she doesn’t like the noise tough luck as I refuse to silence the other children from having fun. I’ve told her she will be getting up at 10am latest on the weekend while she is here and if not there will be consequences. She pulled her face and started having a moan and I pulled up a list of shared houses, one bedroom flats etc and she soon changed her tune. I also told her that I’m pretty sure her boyfriends mum wouldn’t have them there for free.
She’s not happy that today I’ve bagged all her boyfriend’s stuff up and that it’s in bags waiting for him to pick up to take home. She thinks I’m being really unfair not letting him stay and told her that when he stays on that one night he buys his own food and that he does his own washing at his home and I expect £5 towards to gas/electric and broadband if he stays over. I’m expecting a strop again later as he stayed last night so that’s his one night a week used.

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MrsLeonFarrell · 09/01/2026 16:21

@MumTeapot5great update. Part of being an adult is considering those you live with. You are helping her be a good housemate in future.

Lightuptheroom · 09/01/2026 16:21

Well done and don't back down if she strops and pushes back, she's not a child, you're not making her homeless etc, time to live in the real world

Lightuptheroom · 09/01/2026 16:23

I'd also get her to set up a direct debit to you for her keep and then you don't need to keep asking. If she gets paid monthly, then the direct debit date is the day after her pay date.

hallomynameisinigomontoya · 09/01/2026 16:32

@MumTeapot5 I hope you didn't touch or look at any of his pants that were there while you were bagging it!!

ImaginaryLobster · 09/01/2026 16:33

Im imagining telling my old man that years ago and its making me nervous thinking about it 😂😂 id been swifty on my own in the real world for a very quick life lesson
your being mugged off by a brat, unfortunately she will suffer in the real world due to her lack of awareness you need to help her so not such a shock or she'll never leave that room

NewYearSameYou · 09/01/2026 16:38

Great update.

THey can't move out if they want to dictate to everyone else whilst not paying their way.

Peclet · 09/01/2026 16:46

wow- I think you’ve taken a great firm
stNd.

WhereYouLeftIt · 09/01/2026 16:50

Excellent update @MumTeapot5 . She will undoubtedly strop, but sometimes that can be quite fun to watchGrin. There is nothing unfair about the new rules you expect her to follow - that's just family life, everyone expected to rub along.

MumTeapot5 · 09/01/2026 16:57

She probably won’t like that I’ve set up a chore list for the whole family including the youngest but her little chores are supervised such as setting the table for dinner, helping with feeding the dog, putting her socks and underwear away and helping change her bed. My other children will be doing the usual changing their own beds/keeping rooms tidy/taking out bins/loading dishwasher on alternating days/walking the dog and sorting their dry laundry out to put away. She’s probably going to pull her face that tomorrow she will be up early and hoovering the house so I can mop up 🙈

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mummytrex · 09/01/2026 17:21

Well she knows the alternative. Hold strong.

Blueuggboots · 09/01/2026 17:38

She’s absolutely taking the piss. Time for an adult chat I feel!!

Blueuggboots · 09/01/2026 17:39

Sorry! Hadn’t read the update! Well done, sounds perfect.

Sharptonguedwoman · 09/01/2026 17:40

JuliesName · 08/01/2026 12:29

Absolutely not. She doesn't pay, she leaves. And the boyfriend does NOT stay over with that attitude.

Absolutely agree, time to move out, take BF with her and find out the hard way.
In the meantime-put the wet washing in a basket in her room. She's the very definition of entitled.
Just seen your update. Fab, well done to you!

Anyahyacinth · 09/01/2026 18:37

This reminds me of the single Mum who asked whether she should have the small room and give bigger to her children …my experience was it changed the dynamic (sisters experience). The dynamic here is so wrong …no pay no stay

Glitchymn1 · 09/01/2026 18:42

Irememberwhenitwasallfieldsroundhere · 08/01/2026 12:28

She's getting a very good deal indeed and is behaving like an entitled brat.

If she doesn't like the noise or the facilities she can move out and pay market rent somewhere else.

I would pick your battles - no way can they leave a mess for you to come down to, they need to shut up moaning and you won't do the boyfriend's washing, that's his problem (doesn't like his pants being touch, fuck off you little precious twat!)

YANBU

Nailed it.

Flippingnora100 · 09/01/2026 18:45

Sit her down and say that she doesn't get to dictate the rent she will pay - that's not how the world works. The rent is $30 per week and she can take it or leave it. It's entirely her decision. No one is going to be quiet in a family home beyond 7 or 8am to accommodate people who want to sleep in. If she wants the cheap rent and comforts of living in the family home, hearing some morning noise is a compromise she has to make. You can create a tenancy agreement with expectations and rules included. If she wants to call all the shots, she can certainly do that - in her own rented accommodation. Maybe agree a number of nights per week for bf to stay over that her rent also covers. Her bf can do his own washing at home. I also would probably offer to switch bedrooms if that would work better, but that would be the only concession I'd make. Anything else is not setting her up to have realistic expectations of the real world.

Oldwmn · 09/01/2026 18:57

MumTeapot5 · 08/01/2026 12:24

New here.
As the title says, are we being unfair with eldest daughter, hear me out.
Family of 7, 2 adults, 3 children 4-14 and daughter 19 and her long term boyfriend of 5 years.
We moved into a new house mid 2025 as our old house was too small to fit our family in comfortably and we were looking actively anyway and our ideal house came on the market so we went ahead. My eldest daughter was given an upstairs bedroom of her own as each child was, but said she would rather have the downstairs bedroom (was previously a 2nd living room) for whatever reason that me and DH were going to have so all the kids were upstairs but we agreed and all went ahead and all seemed fine as she’s at an age were she could be trusted. That was my 1st mistake I guess, but I’ll come back to that.
My 2nd mistake was allowing her boyfriend to stay over a few nights a week now we had a bigger house and they have been together since they were 14 and in high school together on the agreement that she made sure any mess they made or any washing of his she was to do with her own and they tidy up after themselves.
So back to my first mistake, as I said she has the downstairs bedroom. This room has its own door off the hallway and one of the walls separate the dining room at the back of house. The first few weeks nothing was ever said but the past few weeks she keeps moaning that we are waking her up on a weekend. Now I’d understand if it was really early but she said we never get a lie in past lunch time ( I kid you not ) 🫠 her reasons to this are a list. So she or her boyfriend hears the youngest playing downstairs or singing along to songs that she likes, be that in the living room or dining room when I’m in the kitchen. She hears the noise in the kitchen from cooking/turning on the washer/drier/unloading dishwasher or whatnot. She hears people walking past her room in the hallway, she hears the dog bark etc. Now by no mean are we the quietest family ever but our other children are not elephants that stomp around or are overly loud. Myself and DH have spoken to her about how she can’t expect us all to whisper and tip toe around until gone lunchtime on a weekend especially if we are going out somewhere and getting sorted as we work full time and the dog is a dog and occasionally barks 🤷🏼‍♀️ we have offered to change rooms so she could be upstairs but she said that would be worse as our teen son likes to watch TV or play on his Xbox in his room occasionally and our other teen daughter is always chatting to her friends if we are having a chilled weekend. We tend to hear them from around 10ish but like I said they are not loud or causing a disturbance.
2nd mistake was allowing the boyfriend to stay over. As I said it was agreed that if they tidy up after themselves and do their own washing and she pays keep then we wouldn’t have an issue. I’d say in the last 5 weeks so before Xmas I have been getting up to dishes being left from them cooking if they didn’t want the same meals as us, wet washing in the machine if she’s used it at night, which I will hang up or pop in the tumble drier so I can do our washing, then she moans that her boyfriend says that he feels weird that me or DH are touching his socks/underwear etc. Bear in mind I have a teen son and a husband whose pants we wash and get out to dry regular. I’ve told her if he feels weird then they either wait for their washing to be done and hang it out or move to the drier once the cycle is done or he bags it up and he can do it on the days he is at his home as it’s not like I stand there looking at his pants and socks and judging them 🙈 I just take them out and pop them in the drier. They are being sloppy and not tidying up in general and I am starting to loose my patience.
We told her in December while it was Xmas not to stress to much about paying keep as we knew she was buying presents etc and going out with friends for meals/drinks so thought we was being nice. She’s now turned around last night and said £30 a week isn’t fair of us to ask from her (she works full time and does overtime occasionally) and we told her that £30 is fair as she’s eating the food we buy, using electricity/gas/broadband/household supplies etc. She’s stormed off into her room last night and said we are unfair and she won’t be paying us £30 anymore she will pay £15.
Just looking for some advice really to see if we are being awful parents setting certain rules and charging her keep? Also how would you tell your child if they don’t pay the £30 then they will have to buy their own food etc. Obviously we can’t stop her using the shower etc but she seems to have become very entitled lately since we moved. I’m seriously considering telling her that her boyfriend is no longer welcome to stay overnight anymore.
Sorry it’s been very long winded but thought it would be best to put the facts down as they are x

So she's working full time & only paying £30 pw? She ought to be paying you c. £90 per week (I've made some assumptions re her income). It makes me roar when I hear 'oh, we only charge Johnny 6d a week' . It doesn't matter if you're well off - she's an adult & should be contributing to the household - this to her benefit, she will never have such an easy time again when she finally leaves the nest.
Tell her in plain words that if they don't sort out there own dishes & laundry, the boyfriend can do one. As for moaning about noise, pfft! She can put up or move out.
She's a little doggy who thinks she's boss - disabuse her of this!

Oldwmn · 09/01/2026 19:03

MumTeapot5 · 09/01/2026 16:57

She probably won’t like that I’ve set up a chore list for the whole family including the youngest but her little chores are supervised such as setting the table for dinner, helping with feeding the dog, putting her socks and underwear away and helping change her bed. My other children will be doing the usual changing their own beds/keeping rooms tidy/taking out bins/loading dishwasher on alternating days/walking the dog and sorting their dry laundry out to put away. She’s probably going to pull her face that tomorrow she will be up early and hoovering the house so I can mop up 🙈

Ah, I saw this after I posted. That's more like it. None of this will do her any harm & it will probably do her a great deal of good - she may even thank you one day 🙂

outerspacepotato · 09/01/2026 19:32

MumTeapot5 · 09/01/2026 16:17

So just to update. We sat her down last night and told her that from now on the boyfriend stays one night a week if she pays her keep, if she doesn’t then no stay overs. I’ve also added that she will be paying £100 a week and does her own food shop and that if she doesn’t like the noise tough luck as I refuse to silence the other children from having fun. I’ve told her she will be getting up at 10am latest on the weekend while she is here and if not there will be consequences. She pulled her face and started having a moan and I pulled up a list of shared houses, one bedroom flats etc and she soon changed her tune. I also told her that I’m pretty sure her boyfriends mum wouldn’t have them there for free.
She’s not happy that today I’ve bagged all her boyfriend’s stuff up and that it’s in bags waiting for him to pick up to take home. She thinks I’m being really unfair not letting him stay and told her that when he stays on that one night he buys his own food and that he does his own washing at his home and I expect £5 towards to gas/electric and broadband if he stays over. I’m expecting a strop again later as he stayed last night so that’s his one night a week used.

Good for having the talk and laying down some ground rules.

You're not being unfair at all. You have minors in the home so he is a safety risk, plus her bf is entitled, doesn't pull his weight, and costs you money and more work. A lot of shared housing wouldn't be ok with a live in bf unless he paid his way and shared the housework. That he had multiple bags of stuff at yours, that's unreasonable. She just up and moved him in without discussion. That's nuts.

Now, when she doesn't pay and or breaks the rules about having him stay over more than once a week, what consequences are you going to give? Because she has weaseled out of a lot of responsibility and been enabled up to now so she will probably try these new rules. Are you prepared to tell him to leave or tell her she needs to find a new place to live?

Unless she has a big attitude adjustment, she's going to have a hard time house sharing with anyone.

Yes to automatic debit set up for rent and that chore list.

MyRubyFox · 09/01/2026 19:37

In short...she is taking the piss! She sounds like she has very accommodating, reasonable parents and she is behaving like a brat. Put your foot down with a firm hand!

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