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Am I and DH being unfair

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MumTeapot5 · 08/01/2026 12:24

New here.
As the title says, are we being unfair with eldest daughter, hear me out.
Family of 7, 2 adults, 3 children 4-14 and daughter 19 and her long term boyfriend of 5 years.
We moved into a new house mid 2025 as our old house was too small to fit our family in comfortably and we were looking actively anyway and our ideal house came on the market so we went ahead. My eldest daughter was given an upstairs bedroom of her own as each child was, but said she would rather have the downstairs bedroom (was previously a 2nd living room) for whatever reason that me and DH were going to have so all the kids were upstairs but we agreed and all went ahead and all seemed fine as she’s at an age were she could be trusted. That was my 1st mistake I guess, but I’ll come back to that.
My 2nd mistake was allowing her boyfriend to stay over a few nights a week now we had a bigger house and they have been together since they were 14 and in high school together on the agreement that she made sure any mess they made or any washing of his she was to do with her own and they tidy up after themselves.
So back to my first mistake, as I said she has the downstairs bedroom. This room has its own door off the hallway and one of the walls separate the dining room at the back of house. The first few weeks nothing was ever said but the past few weeks she keeps moaning that we are waking her up on a weekend. Now I’d understand if it was really early but she said we never get a lie in past lunch time ( I kid you not ) 🫠 her reasons to this are a list. So she or her boyfriend hears the youngest playing downstairs or singing along to songs that she likes, be that in the living room or dining room when I’m in the kitchen. She hears the noise in the kitchen from cooking/turning on the washer/drier/unloading dishwasher or whatnot. She hears people walking past her room in the hallway, she hears the dog bark etc. Now by no mean are we the quietest family ever but our other children are not elephants that stomp around or are overly loud. Myself and DH have spoken to her about how she can’t expect us all to whisper and tip toe around until gone lunchtime on a weekend especially if we are going out somewhere and getting sorted as we work full time and the dog is a dog and occasionally barks 🤷🏼‍♀️ we have offered to change rooms so she could be upstairs but she said that would be worse as our teen son likes to watch TV or play on his Xbox in his room occasionally and our other teen daughter is always chatting to her friends if we are having a chilled weekend. We tend to hear them from around 10ish but like I said they are not loud or causing a disturbance.
2nd mistake was allowing the boyfriend to stay over. As I said it was agreed that if they tidy up after themselves and do their own washing and she pays keep then we wouldn’t have an issue. I’d say in the last 5 weeks so before Xmas I have been getting up to dishes being left from them cooking if they didn’t want the same meals as us, wet washing in the machine if she’s used it at night, which I will hang up or pop in the tumble drier so I can do our washing, then she moans that her boyfriend says that he feels weird that me or DH are touching his socks/underwear etc. Bear in mind I have a teen son and a husband whose pants we wash and get out to dry regular. I’ve told her if he feels weird then they either wait for their washing to be done and hang it out or move to the drier once the cycle is done or he bags it up and he can do it on the days he is at his home as it’s not like I stand there looking at his pants and socks and judging them 🙈 I just take them out and pop them in the drier. They are being sloppy and not tidying up in general and I am starting to loose my patience.
We told her in December while it was Xmas not to stress to much about paying keep as we knew she was buying presents etc and going out with friends for meals/drinks so thought we was being nice. She’s now turned around last night and said £30 a week isn’t fair of us to ask from her (she works full time and does overtime occasionally) and we told her that £30 is fair as she’s eating the food we buy, using electricity/gas/broadband/household supplies etc. She’s stormed off into her room last night and said we are unfair and she won’t be paying us £30 anymore she will pay £15.
Just looking for some advice really to see if we are being awful parents setting certain rules and charging her keep? Also how would you tell your child if they don’t pay the £30 then they will have to buy their own food etc. Obviously we can’t stop her using the shower etc but she seems to have become very entitled lately since we moved. I’m seriously considering telling her that her boyfriend is no longer welcome to stay overnight anymore.
Sorry it’s been very long winded but thought it would be best to put the facts down as they are x

OP posts:
Redflagsabounded · 08/01/2026 12:55

Christ.

She can't expect silence in a family home so tell her that and ignore any more moaning.

£30 is a pathetic amount to pay. As a working adult she needs to contribute to her costs and if she can't recognise and appreciate a bloody good deal when she's got one, go get her own place. I was paying my mum £20 a week when I started work in 1982! And I was happy to do so as it made feel like an adult...

Wet washing gets dumped in a washing basket outside their door, along with dirty pots and pans.

I can't get my head around adults who want to be treated like children. Where's their pride?

MumTeapot5 · 08/01/2026 12:58

KarmenPQZ · 08/01/2026 12:40

it sounds like she’s ready to move out. (Meant in a nice way that you’ve raised her so be independent and capable) It’s a natural step bid have a calm quiet word with her about it away from her boyfriend.

id also up her rent and make her sign a tenancy agreement with expectations on washing, tidying, cleaning and maybe fines if it’s not done. And up her rent, it should be £100 on the agreement that you keep the original £30 and she can have the remaining back as a deposit for her own place.

Edited

I love this idea, keeping the rent part and put the rest away for her own place and return the lump sum when she decides what to do. Think I’ll speak to DH tonight and pull her up and give her some options on what to do be that move out or pay up. Thank you.

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CoffeeBeansGalore · 08/01/2026 12:58

In addition, the boyf either doesn't stay over at all or just 1 night a week. His washing is not done at your house.
No tiptoeing around in the morning. It is the family home, not her kingdom to rule.
You get up to dirty dishes from them. This is unacceptable. You are not her maid. You wake her up & she cleans up straight away. It is the consequences of her lazy, selfish actions & she can deal with it.

beAsensible1 · 08/01/2026 12:58

£30 - week and she’s complaining and she works full time???

tell her she doesn’t pay her keep no more BF staying. Any wet washing, you shouldn’t be hanging it up. Put it in a wash basket and leave it outside her door. Same with any mess or dirty plates.

give her, her own cupboard for her own crockery, you can even buy it for her if your feeling generous. She is being cheeky and ungrateful.

remind her that she is free to live out at any time, it’s not a prison.

Doteycat · 08/01/2026 12:58

@SleepingStandingUp you need to see that as a parent, we do them no favours by allowing this to continue. It can also massively affect your own mental health and the dynamic and mood of the rest of the family if you allow this behaviour to continue. So no, its not a hollow threat at all.
Its parenting. Real hardcore coal face parenting. Making the hard choices, the tough calls and the difficult converations. Thats what it is.
So yes i absolutley would and did tell my dd she would have to go if her behaviour didnt change and i meant it. At 21 that is her choice.
If the choice is stop being an entitled bitch or you have to go, and they say oh sorry no i cant behave, then they are choosing to go.
If an adult actually stands in front of me and says no sorry im unable to respext you or your home, then yes, that choice is on them. And shame on them for it. Not me.

beAsensible1 · 08/01/2026 13:00

Why is bf staying over so much that he needs to do his washing. Bloody ridiculous.

itsmeafterall · 08/01/2026 13:00

If it helps my dd and bf lived with us for awhile. We charged them £100 a week in total.

Entirely fair and a bargain (we are in london where room only is £800 a month minimum) It allowed them to save and they now have a rented place of their own.

I've just started to charge DS -23 - £60 a week. He's taking home c1500 so that seems entirely fair too.

We can afford to subsidise them but I think k it's important for young people
To start to pay their way and understand the costs and value they are getting. It prepares them for real life.

In terms of living mess and noise definitely put your foot down on that - bottom line is that it's your home. Now she's an adult she's staying there. Your house, your rules. No ifs or buts. If she leaves wet washing in the machine, dump it in her room.

Assign her a cooking night or two where she has to shop and cook dinner for everyone.

Thebigfellaisnowsnoozing · 08/01/2026 13:00

Tell her you absolutely agree with her and she can't be expected to live there a moment longer..
Send her links to flats to rent....
Sorry but you have raised a cf.

AnneElliott · 08/01/2026 13:01

I think your DD is taking the mick - and I say this as the parent of a DS the same age and I’ve let his GF move in.

No way do they moan about noise or anything else as it’s our house and we pay the bills. In fact they’re grateful when I put their wet washing in the dryer as it saves them a job.

I would suggest not allowing BF to stay more than once a week and then that way he has no need to use your washing machine.

Thebigfellaisnowsnoozing · 08/01/2026 13:02

At 24 my ds abided by our rules.... He knew when he was well off.

He then bought his own place as it was time!! Never had a falling out and he paid his way.

ClawedButler · 08/01/2026 13:02

Tell her to move out quick, while she still knows everything, and prove how wrong you are.

beAsensible1 · 08/01/2026 13:04

SleepingStandingUp · 08/01/2026 12:46

genuine qn as a Mom who's eldest is only 10. I see "or tell her to leave" so often on these threads, and certainly "you love under my roof, my rules..." was used on us but how many parents actually pack their kids bags up and make them homeless? it feels like such a hollow threat. I'm not saying the fear factor doesn't work, but I always wonder what happens when the defiant DD/DS still doesn't comply

is op actually prepared to make her child sleep on the streets or end up NC when she moves in with boyfriend?

OP if he's uncomfortable with you fondling his underwear 🙄 could you chuck it in a basket in her room wet? do you have enough plates / cups etc to do similarly with their plates etc? anything left in the morning in a box dumped in her room? obviously you'd need to safeguard crockery etc for yourselves.

I'd also encourage the younger ones in their morning singing. have they considered taking up the violin??

Why would she be on the streets? She has full time employment. She can rent a room or can stay with her BF?

asking them to leave doesn’t mean chucking them out on the street. It’s giving them notice to find somewhere to rent as it’s time to move out.

gamerchick · 08/01/2026 13:06

Up her keep to 400 quid a month and tell her if that's not acceptable then she's welcome to get her own place.

Tell her as well, if her boyfriend doesn't like to be disturbed then he can go home and she can stay there with him.

Stop pussyfooting around her OP. She's taking the piss.

CrackingOn50 · 08/01/2026 13:07

You're being too soft tbh.

My 20 year old DD lives with me and her long term boyfriend stays probably half the time.
She decided to pay the gas and electric as her rent plus extra bits of food they both fancy.
They clear up after themselves, do the dishwasher, laundry and cook once a week for everyone plus babysit youngest DD occasionally.

Boyfriend does jobs/errands for us and I've no problem asking him to pull his weight as part of the household.

I'm open about finances and DD is pretty good at budgeting. She knows my income has reduced drastically post splitting from her dad and I think we work well as a team.

You need to sit down with her and show her the bills and ask her to come up with a solution that doesn't involve you secretly wanting to throttle the pair of them!

youarebeingsoextrarightnow · 08/01/2026 13:07

I would make her a list of what it would cost to rent a house and all the living costs that go along with it and show her she is getting a good deal. Although PP suggestion of giving her half her rent back is a good idea.

Boyfriend should be doing his own washing at home and I would say to her he only stays 3 nights a week or the rent doubles. Does she ever stay at his?

Noise is just what you have to live with when you are a big family.

Coconutter24 · 08/01/2026 13:08

Does the BF pay any keep or does he just stay over using your electricity and water for nothing?

MumTeapot5 · 08/01/2026 13:08

I’m going to speak to DH when we are home tonight and suggest we up her rent and tell her if she doesn’t like it she can go to her boyfriends parents house and stay there or she moves out. We will put this to her while her boyfriend isn’t around and tell her that unless he starts paying some keep towards he will be staying at home and only welcome once a week as opposed to the 5 days he stays here including the weekend. I thought I was being unfair but I see that maybe we are being too soft x

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LakieLady · 08/01/2026 13:12

Wow! If the downstairs bedroom is too noisy and the upstairs bedrooms are also too noisy, she'd best go and live elsewhere imo!

That will resolve the issue of boyfriend's pants etc too.

She's being ridiculous.

PepsiBook · 08/01/2026 13:12

So the boyfriend stay regularly a few nights a week, but doesn't pay towards food etc?
He shouldn't be doing his washing at yours.
If either of them leave wet clothes in the machine go wake them up to move it.
If they leave dirty washing up, wake them up to clean it.
£30 a week for your daughter is a silly little amount, how dare she complain. Regardless of if you need it, it's good for her to pay - even if you keep it for when she moves out and not tell her.

THisbackwithavengeance · 08/01/2026 13:12

If my adult DC moaned about family noise waking them up in the morning I would laugh in their face.

The board you are charging is fair. Perhaps it’s time for them to move out? I certainly wouldn’t be having an adult boyfriend living with me free of charge.

There is no reasoning with young adults this age so please be assured that you are right and she is wrong.

LakieLady · 08/01/2026 13:14

ClawedButler · 08/01/2026 13:02

Tell her to move out quick, while she still knows everything, and prove how wrong you are.

😂

Excellent!

Breadcat24 · 08/01/2026 13:14

Brat
Move her to upstairs bedroom
Insist on £30 or moves out
If boyfriend eats food- he pays too

RessicaJabbit · 08/01/2026 13:17

Just dump all their wet washing in a pile on her bed - move all dirty diashes into her room.

Differentforgirls · 08/01/2026 13:18

Doteycat · 08/01/2026 12:58

@SleepingStandingUp you need to see that as a parent, we do them no favours by allowing this to continue. It can also massively affect your own mental health and the dynamic and mood of the rest of the family if you allow this behaviour to continue. So no, its not a hollow threat at all.
Its parenting. Real hardcore coal face parenting. Making the hard choices, the tough calls and the difficult converations. Thats what it is.
So yes i absolutley would and did tell my dd she would have to go if her behaviour didnt change and i meant it. At 21 that is her choice.
If the choice is stop being an entitled bitch or you have to go, and they say oh sorry no i cant behave, then they are choosing to go.
If an adult actually stands in front of me and says no sorry im unable to respext you or your home, then yes, that choice is on them. And shame on them for it. Not me.

Calling your daughter a “bitch” is pretty shameful.

Mischance · 08/01/2026 13:18

The words "tough shit" spring instantly to mind!

She's a grown adult living rent free and wants to dictate what happens in what is YOUR home. Well she can't.

£30 is peanuts.

Tell her either she pays a proper rent and keep amount or she will have to find somewhere else to live.