The world is absolutely done.for

[MelodyMayKerr]

America has gone insane. Executing people on the streets for suspecting them of being immigrants. The rapist-in-chief marauding around the world doing what he wants. Israel mass murder children (& adulrs) in Gaza and call anyone who protests an antisemite.Other world leaders stand by and do nothing.
The climate iw shafted. Probably heading for 1.7° or worse, probable mass migration and associated wars. Hundreds of thousands dead in Ukraine. British economy f**ked. Musk heading to Trillionairedom while billions have next to nothing. Everyone glued to their phones, social life dead, mass anxiety and depression among young people.
Im honestly sick of the world now.

Actually, no. It's the classic bigots' argument. Start off by claiming "Jews always claim antisemitism". This opens the door for antisemitic attacks where any attempt to call them out results in "Ah see, we told you that Jews always claim antisemitism." It is, in itself, antisemitic. Those who can't see it either don't want to or are extremely dense.

This is a lie and a ridiculous generalisation. Israel has not been mass murdering Palestinians for years. Israel did not spit at anybody.

So are you saying Israel has only been mass murdering Palestinians since 2024, which makes it ok? Israel is royally fucked

Mongering in doom doesn't help though does it?

To be honest you are deluded
You did not even mention the reptilian aliens that walk among us

Social media (and media in general) encourages us to wallow in binary thinking and circular reasoning, without healthy debate or interest in views from the other side. As long as we battle and troll our way to being right, then we’re the victor in our keyboard battle. This behaviour is collectively exhausting us, depleting us, and therefore creating (a very much needed by global supremacists) collective apathy so that we don’t have enough puff or fight in us to stand on the right side of history and stand against a system that undermines human connection and collaboration.

Resorting to arguing on the internet gives us a short term high of being vehemently right. I’m guilty of this myself, many times over. But I’ve been choosing to listen to interviews or podcasts that prioritise the human spirit and strength. There was one recently about a Palestinian father (I’m unsure if he’s Christian or Muslim) and Jewish Israeli mother who formed a bereavement group for parents on both sides who have lost children to conflict and violence in the region, historical and current.
Both of their children were murdered by forces on either side. But, to paraphrase Nick Cave, their shared grief expanded their capacity to love and so they’ve chosen to share that hopeful path, these two extraordinary people who, by rights, should loathe each other.
It’s true they are a minority. Compassion in the region is in short supply (a genocide will kill that off along with the lives it takes), but those two people, with their love and integrity guiding them through their shared darkness, are powerful ripples in humanity’s ocean. And that has to matter. That is the stuff of purpose, meaning, and hope in this challenging existence.

20 years ago? Maybe 50 years ...

It also becomes an echo chamber. If you hunt out bad news it shows you bad news. If like me you hunt out knitting patterns you just get a feed full of knitting ideas, and cat (but I think everyone gets the cats). Your social media feed is a reflection of your personality.

I didn’t say AIDS was 20 years ago. I said the conversation with my dad was.

AIDS and nuclear war was 40/45 years ago. Neunundneunzig luftballon, and all that. The Berlin Wall coming down was a bright spot, but Miners’ strikes, Chernobyl, Falklands, IRA. Pretty grim.
Gulf War
25 years ago, twin towers, Iraq war.
Fukushima
There hasn’t really been a genuinely golden era. We’re just forgetful.

Thanks for this. You're right in many ways and I tend to take a broader view as well. But recently I feel we're rapidly abandoning excellent principles developed over past century. So it's a bleak moment.

I'm so bored of the whole Israel Bad narrative.

Lucky for us it's now morphed into America bad too. I'm mean people in Europe seem genuinely concerned that the US is going to invade them. Its just completely ridiculous the number of people who have been brainwashed by social media into believing any old shite

Yes how ridiculous that 2 genocidal regimes should be called out as such.

Gosh and that's just the west what about North Korea ? Iran ? Afghanistan or was it just the west your worries about ?

where did I say that? Don't be ridiculous. Israel has been fighting a war started by the mass murder of over 1000 of its citizens by Hamas. War casualties are not 'murder'.

Africa Surpasses 150,000 Deaths Linked to Militant Islamist Groups in Past Decade – Africa Center

CAAT - The war on Yemen’s civilians

Sudan war: Death toll far higher than previously reported - study - BBC News

So much horror in the world but only Gaza gets your attention?

I have always loathed Trump but now I can't even watch the TV if he is on. I think he is deranged. I genuinely can't believe what I am seeing.

Who exactly do you imagine the US is commiting genocide against?

The Prents Circle Family Forum (PCFF) has been up and running long before the war. It's gained traction since the conflict. From the beginning there were Women's groups. Some were trying to end child marriage within the Palestinian population. There's child deaths because of pregnancy/birth. It has branches in the UK. It isn't new. Unfortunately outside of the women's groups a lot of Palestinian Muslim women are not allowed to participate.

Yep.

I used to have nightmares (not an exaggeration actual nightmares) about a nuclear bomb going off as a teenager in the 80s, we were constantly inundated with media showing us how we'd all be dead and gone by about the year 2000 or earlier. Blade Runner was set in 2019 because apparently that seemed pretty reasonable in 1982 😅 Children of Men is set in 2027.

There have always been doomcryers, it makes great cinema and our brains are set up to see the tiger's tail twitching on the Savannah. We barely notice the 20 butterflies that flutter past each day. We have evolved to focus on the negative, because for survival purposes it doesn't matter if you forget that your life is, actually, moment by moment pretty great - but it will matter if you miss that one life threatening outlier.

And it suits governments to keep their citizens just scared enough to tolerate any bollocks they hand down. Coupled with that, the internet has turned doom mongering into its own mental illness, an inescapable (if you are online at all) avalanche of filth and fear bathing people's brains every waking moment.

I occasionally post here, occasionally check the news, and try to stay away from echo chambers and misery mongers as a rule.

Even if we are all doomed (and we're not) bathing in the sewage of social media, hunting out all bad things and ruminating on them, and wallowing in self imposed terror won't change a thing.

Yes it is ridiculous because they aren't "genocidal regimes". I suppose, Iran, hezbollah, hamas, Saudi Arabia etc are the "good guys"? You need to get off social media.

Thanks for the insight and enlightenment. I hadn’t ever heard of this organisation until the podcast, though it was clear that their organisation predates this current conflict. I really enjoyed listening to the two parents who spoke, particularly the Jewish Israeli mum who had so much compassion. I didn’t know about the exclusion of Palestinian Muslim mothers. Do you have more information to share on that?

More patronising drivel

Haven’t read the entire thread but have Tony Benn’s famous quotes been mentioned yet?

“I think there are two ways in which people are controlled: first of all frighten people, and secondly, demoralise them. An educated, healthy and confident nation is harder to govern.”

“And I think our system is based on trying to make people stupid, demoralised and unhealthy, and poverty is a great weapon for that purpose.”

it's never been this bad.

No one has said this. Have you read the thread, sweetheart? Get off X and read the thread.