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In laws being so insensitive after the death of my newborn nephew

351 replies

McFool · 07/01/2026 13:53

NC’d for this

My newborn nephew died at a few hours old on Christmas Day. He was my sister’s first child and it was completely unexpected. I’m very close to my sister and this has been absolutely devastating, and a really difficult few weeks. My focus right now is on supporting her and trying to juggle that with work, looking after kids etc. I’ve been making sure they get fed, liaising with the professionals, talking to family for them, looking for funeral care etc to make life a bit less shit for them. it’s been tough and basically everything that is not about my sister and her DH has been completely sidelined.

On Boxing Day DH told my ILs what happened and I got messages but along the lines of “Your poor sister! Hope everyone is OK”. I know some people are really shit when it comes to grief so I just replied thanking them and saying no everyone isn’t ok we are heartbroken but I appreciate the message.

This week they have sent more messages, with a fundraiser for a baby loss charity about running 2k a day in January and “Maybe you and your sister could do this, try and raise some money”. I replied to say my sister can’t even get out of bed let alone go for a run! No reply, just a heart reaction. They are now pestering me and DH to choose some dates for a Center Parcs holiday we normally go on with them at Easter.

AIBU this goes beyond not understanding grief, and it’s utterly insensitive. These are adults, you don’t have to experience loss to know the encrusting pain it must cause someone. I’ve told DH I’m not going to Center Parcs as right now I’m feeling pretty unforgiving. I honestly feel like I’d be happy never seeing them again.

Or do I need to get out my grief fog? We lost our dad a few Christmases ago and I know looking back I didn’t behave reasonably around that time!

OP posts:
PrincessofWells · 07/01/2026 22:11

nomas · 07/01/2026 21:32

My choice of words are to support the OP and counter the advice from the MILs of MN which is inevitably to tell the OP she is wrong in how she feels.

I don’t know why you are making this about you, no one is inflaming you.

Very few people have 'told' op she is 'wrong in how she feels'. On the contrary most posters have expressed condolences and sympathised, with quite a few explaining anger is a stage of grief and is a perfectly normal response to what has happened. A person feels what they feel.

Nowhere in my post did I mention me. On the contrary I gently cautioned against taking steps that could cause long term damage to family relationships, which helps no one.

Regretfully your post shows an emotional immaturity that is unfortunate.

nomas · 07/01/2026 22:12

BeforeSigourneyWeaverTheyWoveTheirOwnSigourneys · 07/01/2026 22:08

Honestly , I'm going to stop engaging with you.

You're mad about your perception of someone else's situation to the extent that you're hijacking a sensitive thread for your own reasons and I'm not willing to help you with that.

That’s fine. But it’s not my perception. OP came back and confirmed that the MIL did mean for the bereaved mum and her sister to run 2k a day in January, 10 days post-partum.

Janejanejaneagain · 07/01/2026 22:13

I think, probably due to their generation and differences in the way these things are seen, they probably don’t expect you to be grieving yourself but rather supporting your sister.

I think they’ve been fairly nice so far, just smile and nod and be polite.

nomas · 07/01/2026 22:15

PrincessofWells · 07/01/2026 22:11

Very few people have 'told' op she is 'wrong in how she feels'. On the contrary most posters have expressed condolences and sympathised, with quite a few explaining anger is a stage of grief and is a perfectly normal response to what has happened. A person feels what they feel.

Nowhere in my post did I mention me. On the contrary I gently cautioned against taking steps that could cause long term damage to family relationships, which helps no one.

Regretfully your post shows an emotional immaturity that is unfortunate.

It’s really not your job to police other people’s posts. I’m here to support the OP, I’m
not here to pander to your idea of maturity. You do you.

HoLeeFuk · 07/01/2026 22:15

Louielove · 07/01/2026 21:39

It’s the timing and yes I know you are bereaved parent that’s why I’m surprised you can’t see

your completely missing the point - they sent the info to sign up within 2 weeks of baby’s death - as I’ve already explained

we can agree to disagree and stop derailing thread by just accepting we don’t agree

You're being utterly crass and insensitive to a bereaved mother. Leave her alone.

QuickPeachPoet · 07/01/2026 22:18

McFool · 07/01/2026 14:05

Thank you and I’m sorry for your loss.

I am angry, so angry. I don’t know at who. Everyone. No one.

I do think it’s better sometimes for people to just say nothing than the wrong thing, and I know I’m not myself right now

If they had said nothing you would have called them out on that.
You are lashing out because you are in pain.
This is common, but do make sure you rein it in before you sever ties with people. Put your phone down, go and stand outside for 10 seconds, punch a pillow. Do what you need to do.

swingingbytheseat · 07/01/2026 22:19

Are your in-laws generally insensitive ? it’s coming from a ‘nice’ place but just so incredibly dim/insensitive

McFool · 07/01/2026 22:21

JohnnyMcGrathSaysFuckOff · 07/01/2026 21:33

See, a couple of critical care / ICU nurses here have mentioned this kind of thing isn't uncommon, and by my count 4-5 women who have lost babies have agreed.

So it's clearly not off the charts behaviour.

OP I mean this very, very kindly and gently - but you must surely see that there is a range of appropriate behaviour here. Bereaved mothers on this thread have said they would find your way of coping by ringing funeral directors totally wrong for them . My own sister has lost several babies (due to a medical condition it seems she cannot carry fully to term) and she wanted space. She would have been enraged if me or anyone else had got involved with the funerals.

Not right or wrong, just different people need different things. Don't cut them off for this. Remember if one of them loses the other in the future, your reaction may be "wrong" for them.

Take care, now x

Oh I haven’t taken it upon myself to ring funeral directors, my sister asked me to take some tasks off her hand, that being one of them as she just wants someone to say “Here you go this place”. I’m also keeping wider family updated as they just can’t face all the messages right now.

OP posts:
McFool · 07/01/2026 22:24

And whilst I have totally taken comments on board and have stepped out my body a bit to see that a “fuck you” reaction isn’t going to help anyone, and that I just need to step back for a bit….I’m afraid I still do think it’s bonkers to suggest a postpartum woman runs 2k a day. Even if it was kindly meant, I think a little more thought would make a person realise that, even if someone hadn’t lost their baby, it’s a stupid suggestion for a postpartum woman.

OP posts:
McFool · 07/01/2026 22:25

swingingbytheseat · 07/01/2026 22:19

Are your in-laws generally insensitive ? it’s coming from a ‘nice’ place but just so incredibly dim/insensitive

They can be, yes. They aren’t the best at putting themselves in other people’s shoes

OP posts:
McFool · 07/01/2026 22:26

Garroty · 07/01/2026 20:17

I understand this completely OP. My sister's baby was very very sick at birth and seeing her pain and terror was second only to feeling it myself. I adore my husband beyond measure but my sister has been the other half of me since the day she was born.

I'm truly so heartbroken for you both.

The other half of me - this is so true.

OP posts:
MrsChristmasHasResigned · 07/01/2026 22:28

McFool · 07/01/2026 22:24

And whilst I have totally taken comments on board and have stepped out my body a bit to see that a “fuck you” reaction isn’t going to help anyone, and that I just need to step back for a bit….I’m afraid I still do think it’s bonkers to suggest a postpartum woman runs 2k a day. Even if it was kindly meant, I think a little more thought would make a person realise that, even if someone hadn’t lost their baby, it’s a stupid suggestion for a postpartum woman.

People are weird around grief and I think the loss of a child is an area where people get especially weird. All loss is awful, of course, but this is so unimaginably awful to most people that I think people get anxious and say stupid stuff.

BeforeSigourneyWeaverTheyWoveTheirOwnSigourneys · 07/01/2026 22:35

McFool · 07/01/2026 22:21

Oh I haven’t taken it upon myself to ring funeral directors, my sister asked me to take some tasks off her hand, that being one of them as she just wants someone to say “Here you go this place”. I’m also keeping wider family updated as they just can’t face all the messages right now.

Taking on the strain of this is a truly amazing thing to do. I really do wish I had someone like you around.

Please do make sure to take time for yourself, and that you're also getting support though, you're also going through a bereavement as well as going through your own family stuff, and looking after your sister, you also need time to grieve 💐

McFool · 07/01/2026 22:35

QuickPeachPoet · 07/01/2026 22:18

If they had said nothing you would have called them out on that.
You are lashing out because you are in pain.
This is common, but do make sure you rein it in before you sever ties with people. Put your phone down, go and stand outside for 10 seconds, punch a pillow. Do what you need to do.

With the greatest of respect, you don’t know me - I would absolutely not have called them out on saying nothing. In the days following my nephew’s death I barely registered anyone’s existence let alone my ILs. Like I said I got the “Is everyone ok” text to which i replied and which I was mostly fine with. I absolutely would rather they had said nothing than suggested me and my sister start running every day to raise money, or asked about booking a holiday.

OP posts:
McFool · 07/01/2026 22:38

I had to tell my boss as I was due to work between Christmas and new year and asked for last minute time off, and explained why. She hasn’t asked me at all about my nephew or sister since she came back herself, and that’s absolutely fine. I’m fine for her to say nothing if she can’t find the right words.

OP posts:
saraclara · 07/01/2026 22:39

McFool · 07/01/2026 22:24

And whilst I have totally taken comments on board and have stepped out my body a bit to see that a “fuck you” reaction isn’t going to help anyone, and that I just need to step back for a bit….I’m afraid I still do think it’s bonkers to suggest a postpartum woman runs 2k a day. Even if it was kindly meant, I think a little more thought would make a person realise that, even if someone hadn’t lost their baby, it’s a stupid suggestion for a postpartum woman.

Are you absolutely sure that she meant you should do it this month, and not 'here's something you might like to do (sometime)'?

Like I said earlier, my grief brain meant that I misinterpreted a LOT of stuff.

McFool · 07/01/2026 22:40

BeforeSigourneyWeaverTheyWoveTheirOwnSigourneys · 07/01/2026 22:35

Taking on the strain of this is a truly amazing thing to do. I really do wish I had someone like you around.

Please do make sure to take time for yourself, and that you're also getting support though, you're also going through a bereavement as well as going through your own family stuff, and looking after your sister, you also need time to grieve 💐

Thank you Flowers I think right now, I’m happier (well not happy but less miserable) being useful and keeping myself busy. I think I’ll break if I don’t.

OP posts:
McFool · 07/01/2026 22:41

saraclara · 07/01/2026 22:39

Are you absolutely sure that she meant you should do it this month, and not 'here's something you might like to do (sometime)'?

Like I said earlier, my grief brain meant that I misinterpreted a LOT of stuff.

Yes it’s a January 2026 challenge.

OP posts:
Soontobe60 · 07/01/2026 22:43

McFool · 07/01/2026 14:05

Thank you and I’m sorry for your loss.

I am angry, so angry. I don’t know at who. Everyone. No one.

I do think it’s better sometimes for people to just say nothing than the wrong thing, and I know I’m not myself right now

But they’re not saying ‘the wrong thing’. Obviously the death of a child is horrendous - anyone can see that even if they’ve never had a child. Did they know your sister well?

saraclara · 07/01/2026 22:45

With the greatest of respect, you don’t know me - I would absolutely not have called them out on saying nothing

Most people would though. One's in law's not saying a word about a newborn baby nephew dying, would anger or upset the vast majority of DILs, I'd guess.

But this is what makes death so hard. There is no universal 'right way' to respond (or not respond) and for those of us not good with words when faced with a difficult situation, it's a matter of luck whether our response will match what that specific bereaved person needs to hear.

saraclara · 07/01/2026 22:46

McFool · 07/01/2026 22:41

Yes it’s a January 2026 challenge.

I got that. I was just hoping that she meant 'this sort of thing' rather than 'this specific thing at this time'.

Abitlosttoday · 07/01/2026 22:46

FrivolousKitchenRollUse · 07/01/2026 19:45

See this is interesting, who says what defines who is shit at handling grief? My take in this is that you're wrong and your in laws sound great tbf.

You sound absolutely unhinged. You are as insensitive as the in-laws. Self-awareness of a shopping trolley.

McFool · 07/01/2026 22:47

Soontobe60 · 07/01/2026 22:43

But they’re not saying ‘the wrong thing’. Obviously the death of a child is horrendous - anyone can see that even if they’ve never had a child. Did they know your sister well?

Edited

To clarify, my sister had a son not a daughter, he was her first.

And yes they’ve met her many times. We are not a Gavin and Stacey type set up though where it’s one big happy family always seeing each other so I wouldn’t expect them to come to the funeral or send flowers or anything.

OP posts:
McFool · 07/01/2026 22:48

saraclara · 07/01/2026 22:46

I got that. I was just hoping that she meant 'this sort of thing' rather than 'this specific thing at this time'.

No she meant this month’s challenge. I won’t copy and paste the message but it’s clear she meant this particular challenge.

OP posts:
Soontobe60 · 07/01/2026 22:51

McFool · 07/01/2026 22:47

To clarify, my sister had a son not a daughter, he was her first.

And yes they’ve met her many times. We are not a Gavin and Stacey type set up though where it’s one big happy family always seeing each other so I wouldn’t expect them to come to the funeral or send flowers or anything.

Apologies, I realised after I posted so edited it to correct myself. Was he full term or premature? There’s a lot of support out there that can help your sister.
https://www.lullabytrust.org.uk/bereavement-support/practical-advice/places-to-go-for-support/