To think loo roll is not enough

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Not the nicest subject in the world -sorry!

I live abroad and bathrooms have bidees (spelling) I don’t use these, but always use wet toilet wipes which are said to be easily disposable here and not harmful to the environment
Since doing this it makes me think how normal loo roll paper is pretty gross and just can’t possibly get you properly clean 😬

Every time this subject comes up on MN I am agog there are people who take a full shower every time they have a bowel movement. Do you never leave the house?!

It's like the thread where I found out some people are wiping facing the back of the toilet.

YANBU.

As a teen my family travelled to a poor country where it was standard practice to wash your bum after defecating.

Since then, I've used tissue to wipe excess, washed my bum in the bath and then dried off. It's 1000x more hygienic and I feel a difference if I don't.

Many Western countries aren't known for having the best hygiene practices, so you won't get much support on this I'm afraid.

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I usually poo once a day first thing in the morning the morning and then shower. On the very rare occasion I need to go again I'd just wipe.

Only because they don't want to spread the poo around.

How is lingering particles between your bum cheeks and covered with underwear and another layer causing germs to spread....?

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Same. Also use wype and wouldn’t be without it. Please don’t think any wipes are flushable folks - any plumber will tell you how that’s a lie!

We don't have the sanitary issues that poorer countries might experience.

lack of oestrogen can affect the gut microbiome and the way you poo Just something else that can affect women

YANBU that toilet paper isn’t enough. You’re just smearing poo and paper dust on your balloon knot. I have a shower bidet (a small shower attached to the toilet) my downstairs are fully clean at all times. It’s also great for discharge and heavy periods.

Shower bidets are better than separate bidets because you don’t have to transfer to wash and take up less room. I still used the separate bidet on holiday in Italy but it was a PITA.

YABU to flush wipes though. Even if theoretically flushable, in reality they’re not.

😂😂😂😂

Of course you can

Loo paper works fine for me. I have occasionally been known to dampen the paper with a smidge of water if I felt that was needed.

I have a deep cringe reaction to hoses and bidets. I don't understand how you hose yourself without getting water (and possibly faecal material) all over the loo seat. Ditto bidets: isn't the bidet bowl contaminated with faecal matter after you have used it?

Doesn’t matter. I still prefer to be clean.
When we know better, we can do better.

You feel free to go about with poo particles stuck to your arse, though 🤷‍♀️

I'd never considered the temperature issue, but having given it a moment or two's thought, it quite made me wince!

FFS, there seem to be a lot of people on this thread lacking basic common sense AND a bathroom bin. If you use wet wipes you do NOT put them in the loo, you bin them. When using public loos as there's always a bin for sanitary towels in women's loos.

'Faecal matter'??? You mean shit?

You rinse it out after you've used it.

This thread is a poo/arse fetishists dream. They are already here....

I feel the same. When using a hose doesn't that cause shitty water to swoosh down towards the vaginal opening?

I agree toilet paper isnt enough but I wouldn't flush a wet wipe. I have a wash in the shower every time I poo.
Before anyone says it's OTT, I don't get UTIs any more.

Who's stupid enough to put tights and plasters down the loo? A simpleton would know you shouldn't. Nappies? That's ridiculous. I do flush lillets down the loo though.

I can't believe no one has mentioned washable wipes yet.
I used cheeky wipes when the kids were wee and have just continued to have a box of flannels and a bucket with a lid in both bathrooms.
In my bathroom I have the wipes pre soaked in a nice body wash but in the general bathroom they are dry and just need a run under the tap to use.
Hot wash in the washing machine they are as good as new.

Good grief I fear for what is coming out of people if toilet roll can't manage the job, that is revolting 😷

Also, does your arsehole really need to be sterile all the time? What does that actually achieve?

I have zero problem with aiming the water there - it's where that dirty water goes afterwards that bothers me.

With a bidet, I can never get away from the feeling that I'm just spreading the germs over a wider area. That to me feels much dirtier than a wipe (never ever flushed) or Wype, or just paper.

I haven't found that in Japan? The public toilets are used ALL the time and all have the warm toilet seat with cleaning for front and back. They are meticulously clean as are all things in Japan including the Japanese people.
It's a lovely feeling being so thoroughly sprayed and cleaned after even just a wee!

That’s completely different and you know it. If you’re getting straight into the shower after a poo, then obviously you’ll be clean.

Sometimes, I’ve had to go when I’ve just come out of the shower 🤦‍♀️
So I just get back in.

It’s the not washing/cleaning properly between showers that I’m referring to but you knew that.