To think loo roll is not enough

[Makinglasagnatakesages]

Not the nicest subject in the world -sorry!

I live abroad and bathrooms have bidees (spelling) I don’t use these, but always use wet toilet wipes which are said to be easily disposable here and not harmful to the environment
Since doing this it makes me think how normal loo roll paper is pretty gross and just can’t possibly get you properly clean 😬

How clean does your bum need to be, are you scratching it before meals?
I don't understand how your bum can get that much poo on it from sitting on a toilet that normal toilet paper can't handle, even wipes aren't antibacterial soap so they aren't really cleaning either - surely that's like washing your hands just with water and not soap - it's not actually clean so what's the point?
Toilet paper is fine and then any bacteria is washed with soap with your daily shower surely.

I think if you have a healthy digestive tract you shouldn't need multiple messy wipes after a BM?

Anyway I don't know if you fear that strangers are walking round with skiddy drawers, reeking out entire public spaces, because why the heck do you care how other people clean their arseholes?

If you 'think' you have a biodegradable wipe please test it in a bottle of water to make sure.

Put one wipe in water and shake. Do the same with a sheet of toilet paper. If the wipe breaks down like a sheet of toilet paper it's flushable. If it doesn't it should be binned and not flushed.

The water industry tests all products and I don't believe they have approved any yet as flushable.

We have a hose on the toilets, the only one that doesn’t has a proper Japanese toilet seat.

I very much agree with others no wipes are flushable, my mum recently had her garden flooded with shit because the drain was completely backed up with the neighbours flushable wet wipes. Her house insurance are claiming off the neighbours to cover the costs.

Totally agree on the faulty reasoning of using toilet paper. It’s completely illogical to assume that your bum is clean after scrubbing it with dry loo roll; illogical to think that flushing additional paper/products ie wet wipes down our already overloaded sewage systems is remotely ok; and that we are somehow more superior or more hygienic than the rest of the world - the vast majority of which use water only at every toilet visit.

It’s time to be less fucking sensitive, more ecological and - to be honest - far cleaner - and just use water. Use the bidet hose, wait a few seconds for the water to drip off, pull up your pants and stop being such a cry baby. Then wsh your hands with soap. For those with gut issues, there should be an exception.

it’s north European/British/American exceptionalism that creates these issues in the first place.

Try Wype which is a gel in a pump that turn ordinary toilet paper into a wet wipe. Better for the environment.

I agree.

I’m reading this thread with increasing incredulity. Surely most people just wipe (with loo roll), flush and wash hands thoroughly and then NEVER GIVE IT ANOTHER THOUGHT?!

As I am not using my bum hole to eat or touch other things with, I think that is actually pretty sufficient?

(a, I can’t believe I just wrote the above sentence.
b, I do shower regularly, wash my hands all
the time and change my clothes…..I’m pretty clean and hygienic I promise!)

I just dampen some toilet paper on my last wipe or two and use that to make sure I have got everything off - no need to pay for special wet wipes which are not that flushable anyway.

You just fit a bidet gun if you want one. But I agree that I prefer it.

Exactly, wiping with toilet paper is fine and the bum hole gets a thorough clean at the next bath/shower. What exactly is going to get contaminated in the meantime unless you dirty buggers are scratching your bums?

This. I miss these from living in Thailand, so fresh and so clean.

Agree.

I keep a bottle of cognac in the bathroom for, er medicinal purposes. A good splash of Remy Martin XO on some bog roll sterilises everything.

I don't know about you, but I don't use my bum to prepare food, open doors or shake hands with people.

I poo in the morning, wipe until the paper comes away clean then I get in the shower and wash my bum hole with soap.

It’s totally different because you’re touching things with your hands and could spread germs. If you wipe your bumhole thoroughly with paper it will then be covered up from the world until you’re next having a shower and can give it a wash with soap.

They are not going to degrade before they cause blockage. Stop

Because this is Mumsnet where competitive cleanliness is a hobby.

See the thread where people take their own cutlery to restaurants.

Or a "how often do you shower" thread, where anything less the 2 times a day is "grim".

Or the hand washing that goes on and on and on every single day. Some people must wash their hands dozens and dozens of times a day (some legitimately, some.... Questionable whether it's necessary... ) but some people are washing hands after toilet, after going outside, before cooking, after sneezing, before eating, after handling dirty washing, after cleaning house, after washing up, after going in public transport, after touching hand rails etc.

No I can definitely smell unclean arse on people. It seeps into underwear and then they sit on public transport etc.. it’s rank that people are walking round with dirty bums. Then it leads to irritation then itching.

I think you have issues

Quite. I am thinking why not just wet a bit of loo roll and use that if you're concerned. I don't think using that much soap or other cleanser regularly can do you much good can it?

Using only toilet roll is disgusting. I totally agree with you. Having a bidet or jet spray is so hygenic.

This level of interest in other people’s intimate hygiene is… I don’t know… almost prurient if it related to hygiene.

Oh. Wow.

Only real way is to shower after every poo.

YANBU if you accidentally get fecal matter on your hands... Everyone washes it off with water and doesn't just use paper