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To think loo roll is not enough

625 replies

Makinglasagnatakesages · 04/01/2026 13:48

Not the nicest subject in the world -sorry!

I live abroad and bathrooms have bidees (spelling) I don’t use these, but always use wet toilet wipes which are said to be easily disposable here and not harmful to the environment
Since doing this it makes me think how normal loo roll paper is pretty gross and just can’t possibly get you properly clean 😬

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WinterWooliesBaa · 05/01/2026 20:26

Excited101 · 05/01/2026 14:45

Andrex washlets have passed and been accredited as ‘fine to flush’ by the water board. I’ve used them for years without any issues, they have passed stringent tests but should only be flushed 1 at a time. Pura have also passed but I’m not sure on other brands. Those 2 are cellulose based with 0% plastic so they do actually break down.

Have you done the water bottle test on any of them?

angielizzy1 · 05/01/2026 20:52

Allseeingallknowing · 04/01/2026 14:40

I’m surprised there aren’t more of these cleansing gels available, would bring price down too.

I've always used baby lotion which is much cheaper.

Tattiana · 05/01/2026 21:05

How does baby lotion clean it though? 😬

Imalittleelf · 05/01/2026 21:20

Even flushable wipes have a small amount of plastic in them.

Teabags have plastic in the sealing glue.

I know someone who works in the paper industry who has been trying to develop a fully compostable wet wipe but its not yet possible because they tear too easily thus becoming useless when removed from the packet

Whydontyoujustfuckoff · 05/01/2026 21:31

TittyGajillions · 05/01/2026 18:54

That's what most people do surely? I'm getting vibes that that poster could start an argument in an empty room!

I beg your pardon?
Just because I use soap differently, doesn’t mean that I’m argumentative.

For your information, I think the way you do it is really weird.
It’s a bit like pouring shampoo into your hands and lathering it up then putting it on your hair.

Why not just apply it directly?

Genuine question. I really don’t understand rubbing soapy hands on your body when you can rub the soap on yourself and apply a decent amount of pressure.

Whydontyoujustfuckoff · 05/01/2026 21:33

SouthernNights59 · 05/01/2026 19:36

I don't know why it astonishes me after all these years on MN, but each day brings a new level of weirdness. Of course it is normal to rub a bar of soap on your body, and has been for a very long time - and do you really think each member of a household has their own bar of soap.

I really had no idea how many strange people there are in the world who seemingly have never encountered perfectly normal and natural things.

THANK YOU!
I’m astonished at some of the replies/comments I’ve had re using a bar of soap 🧼 🤣

Whydontyoujustfuckoff · 05/01/2026 21:40

ScrapeandScratch · 04/01/2026 17:24

Maybe you are exceptionally stinky?

NOPE.
I’m exceptionally clean.

TFImBackIn · 05/01/2026 21:40

Makinglasagnatakesages · 04/01/2026 14:05

They’re not wet wipes though, they’re biodegradable toilet wipes, you can also put them in the toilet bin then throw away and change the bin liner

You are leaving them for your grandchildren to deal with.

Whydontyoujustfuckoff · 05/01/2026 21:42

LVhandbagsatdawn · 04/01/2026 17:22

Can we stop with the "If you got shit on your hand" nonsense?

Hands and anuses are different body parts, with different functions, and different exposure in public.

If you're a rather unique person who uses your anus to open doors, eat with, and greet people then by all means apply the same standard as you would to hands. Until then, it's an irrelevant nonsense.

Toilet paper is fine. Bidets are great. But a significant proportion of the world uses just toilet roll and last I checked the world didn't stink of shit, nor are half the population perishing from arse-based disease, so I think it's safe to say that toilet roll is doing the job just fine and we don't need to have a crisis over it.

Perfect valid analogy.
I no more enjoy having shit on my arse than I would on my hand.

You go for it, though, by all means.

I don’t notice anyone in crisis.
The OP asked and people responded.

BuildbyNumbere · 05/01/2026 21:43

Makinglasagnatakesages · 04/01/2026 14:05

They’re not wet wipes though, they’re biodegradable toilet wipes, you can also put them in the toilet bin then throw away and change the bin liner

You are still not meant to flush them despite what they say!!! This is why drains are getting blocked, they do not break down like paper and are terrible for the environment.

Allseeingallknowing · 05/01/2026 21:44

WinterWooliesBaa · 05/01/2026 19:31

No thank you. I don't want a communal arse washing bowl to be common place in bathrooms. Clean your arse with minimal impact on others. Please.

I had my own bathroom. I agree it’s not nice to share such things with others

Sugarnspicenallthingsnaice · 05/01/2026 21:44

Good grief @Whydontyoujustfuckoff , are you just going to keep picking through every post finding something to quote and disagree with? Is this how you converse with people in real life?

Whydontyoujustfuckoff · 05/01/2026 21:45

IcedPurple · 04/01/2026 17:08

Urine lingering around your nether regions starts to smell very quickly.

Do you go around sniffing your undercarriage throughout the day?

Nope. But I’m aware that the smell develops and it makes me feel uncomfortable.
I prefer to feel clean.
What exactly is wrong with that?

Negroany · 05/01/2026 21:47

Whydontyoujustfuckoff · 05/01/2026 21:31

I beg your pardon?
Just because I use soap differently, doesn’t mean that I’m argumentative.

For your information, I think the way you do it is really weird.
It’s a bit like pouring shampoo into your hands and lathering it up then putting it on your hair.

Why not just apply it directly?

Genuine question. I really don’t understand rubbing soapy hands on your body when you can rub the soap on yourself and apply a decent amount of pressure.

Well, I rub the soap bar (admittedly in a string bag thingy) on my body, but I don't let dp do that because he's hairy and leaves hairs stuck all in it!

I don't think either one of us is cleaner than the other.

Whydontyoujustfuckoff · 05/01/2026 21:48

InveterateWineDrinker · 04/01/2026 17:08

well then, you're all gonna love gay men in bars wanting a bit of rimming...

Am not averse to this, whether giving or receiving.
ONLY if both of us are clean and by that I mean a shower or a wash.

Claudiebus · 05/01/2026 21:51

What’s wrong with wiping then dampening some toilet paper with water and wiping again ? Or using some neutral body lotion. Would love a bidet but no way am I using wipes

BuildbyNumbere · 05/01/2026 21:51

How dirty are people getting after using the toilet. If you are eating and drinking properly you shouldn’t actually need to use a lot of paper. If you are still very dirty then your colon hasn’t cleared properly, likely due to poor diet or not drinking enough water!!
www.healthline.com/health/irritable-bowel-syndrome/endless-wiping-after-bowel-movement#:~:text=Several%20health%20conditions%2C%20including%20abscesses,may%20be%20an%20underlying%20cause.

Whydontyoujustfuckoff · 05/01/2026 21:53

TheKeatingFive · 04/01/2026 17:01

Well it's not going to get a chance to build if you shower everyday, now is it?

Honestly, MN cleanliness obsession is ridiculous.

Depending on fluid intake, I can go to the bathroom about 10 times a day.
That’s a lot of urine residue hanging around my nether regions. Yuk.

I can certainly live with it until I’m going to bed and then I’d have another shower (having had a shower in the morning) but there’s no way I’d want to get intimate with anyone without another shower or a thorough clean with a wash cloth and soap.

suburburban · 05/01/2026 21:54

Whydontyoujustfuckoff · 05/01/2026 21:53

Depending on fluid intake, I can go to the bathroom about 10 times a day.
That’s a lot of urine residue hanging around my nether regions. Yuk.

I can certainly live with it until I’m going to bed and then I’d have another shower (having had a shower in the morning) but there’s no way I’d want to get intimate with anyone without another shower or a thorough clean with a wash cloth and soap.

Yes I’d do the same

Whydontyoujustfuckoff · 05/01/2026 21:54

Negroany · 05/01/2026 21:47

Well, I rub the soap bar (admittedly in a string bag thingy) on my body, but I don't let dp do that because he's hairy and leaves hairs stuck all in it!

I don't think either one of us is cleaner than the other.

Fair enough.
I wouldn’t want it covered in hairs either 🤣

Whydontyoujustfuckoff · 05/01/2026 21:57

Sugarnspicenallthingsnaice · 05/01/2026 21:44

Good grief @Whydontyoujustfuckoff , are you just going to keep picking through every post finding something to quote and disagree with? Is this how you converse with people in real life?

Good grief, yourself.
I am merely responding to people who have replied to me as I have only just seen the email notifications.

Didn’t realise that I needed your permission or guidance on how to respond on a public forum.

Franjipanl8r · 05/01/2026 22:34

rainbowsandraspberrygin · 05/01/2026 06:28

Doesn’t the tissue disintegrate?

No it doesn’t. Just pour a small jug of water at top of bum crack. Wait a few seconds and then wipe dry with tissue. The same method works for fannys as well. I just have a jug next to the loo or if I’m out in public, I take a bottle of water into the loo with me.

Working in London with lots of different cultures, I’d often see females go to the loo and take a bottle of water into the cubicle to wash this way before wiping.

Negroany · 05/01/2026 22:59

BuildbyNumbere · 05/01/2026 21:51

How dirty are people getting after using the toilet. If you are eating and drinking properly you shouldn’t actually need to use a lot of paper. If you are still very dirty then your colon hasn’t cleared properly, likely due to poor diet or not drinking enough water!!
www.healthline.com/health/irritable-bowel-syndrome/endless-wiping-after-bowel-movement#:~:text=Several%20health%20conditions%2C%20including%20abscesses,may%20be%20an%20underlying%20cause.

That article doesn't say anything about the "colon not having cleared properly", you just made that up.

BuildbyNumbere · 05/01/2026 23:31

Negroany · 05/01/2026 22:59

That article doesn't say anything about the "colon not having cleared properly", you just made that up.

It does if you read it.

Natsku · 06/01/2026 05:25

WinterWooliesBaa · 05/01/2026 20:07

See, to me, that's super grim. People sharing a bum gun where many of them will have dirty hands 🤮

Well their hands won't be dirty before using it because they're not wiping with toilet paper first so the bum gun is clean, and then of course you wash your hands afterwards anyway so I fail to see the issue. Bum guns have been standard in my country for a few decades so everyone knows how to use them without making a mess or touching them with dirty hands.