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Aibu to cancel order from fox hunting supporting company?

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Henrysmycat · 27/12/2025 09:02

I know in the grand scheme of things, it’s a first world problem but we ordered our kitchen from Neptune. The shop was close by, the styles were what fits the house and the people selling were cooperative.
To my surprise, I opened socials today to find out, that they support fox hunting with those stupid costumes, horses, dogs and all the pretentiousness. Seriously, Neptune think that the Ultra high networth people will go for their products instead of bespoke or some other eye watering expensive brand like Clive Christian or Officine Gullo hence the support? And when I commented it, they delete my comments.
Am I wrong to cancel my kitchen as I have time to do it.
I’m not one of those totalitarian vegans but a blood sport like this in 2025 in Britain?

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PodMom · 27/12/2025 13:13

Salvadoridory · 27/12/2025 13:01

Thats a good point. Do these folk also object to the travellers coursing? Do they sabotage those bastards trespassing, abusing their dogs and delighting in the blood? No, because they are scary fuckers and not posh. As I mentioned, hypocrites.

Edited

I’d certainly ring the police if I saw someone hare coursing.

JWhipple · 27/12/2025 13:16

Cancel if you don't agree with their ethics.

Why the need to bash vegans though? Or do you need us to know your care about some animals but not others? Very odd

Stilish · 27/12/2025 13:17

LoppyLugs · 27/12/2025 12:44

You said ‘no law is never ever broken’ actually.

It’s the same thing!? 🤷🏻‍♀️🤣

Fireballtime · 27/12/2025 13:19

BurntBroccoli · 27/12/2025 12:08

It’s not an attack on rural life. Plenty of people grew up and live in the countryside and abhor fox trail hunting. This includes many farmers around here - they often trample their crops.

Absolutely. Then the land owners get accused of being 'sabs' when they ask trespassers to leave as a fair chunk of the hunters are not rural, have no idea that they are infact illegally trespassing or any idea of who actually owns the land as they are unfamiliar with the area or what actually goes on at these meet ups. The genuinely wealthy have enough land to ride their horses so have no need to trespass hunt IME.

Millytante · 27/12/2025 13:19

Salvadoridory · 27/12/2025 13:01

Thats a good point. Do these folk also object to the travellers coursing? Do they sabotage those bastards trespassing, abusing their dogs and delighting in the blood? No, because they are scary fuckers and not posh. As I mentioned, hypocrites.

Edited

No argument there. I’d be banned here if I expanded on my opinions re that community’s attitude to animal welfare. (Horses in particular)

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Stilish · 27/12/2025 13:20

DrPrunesqualer · 27/12/2025 13:06

Those will be the ones under 6yrs old that they haven’t shot yet because they’re too slow
Or the ones too slow to start with and shot before they even reach their first birthday !!!

I walk puppies for the hunt - this is just not true.

Millytante · 27/12/2025 13:20

Salvadoridory · 27/12/2025 13:01

Thats a good point. Do these folk also object to the travellers coursing? Do they sabotage those bastards trespassing, abusing their dogs and delighting in the blood? No, because they are scary fuckers and not posh. As I mentioned, hypocrites.

Edited

Sorry, posted response twice

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Millytante · 27/12/2025 13:23

Salvadoridory · 27/12/2025 12:57

Ah, the sixth former has arrived.

Blimey

WonderfulSmith · 27/12/2025 13:24

As said already in this thread, people who are against hunting need to avoid Boden. I believe Jonnie Boden is closely involved with the Portman hunt. www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c99vyvn28gxo?app-referrer=deep-link

DrPrunesqualer · 27/12/2025 13:25

Stilish · 27/12/2025 13:20

I walk puppies for the hunt - this is just not true.

It is true
There are images of some being shots
repirts from riders
Investigations
and
Even Countryside Alliance admit to about 3000 a year being shot
with others stating the figure is more 7000

Snowyowl99 · 27/12/2025 13:26

Definitely cancel.

DrPrunesqualer · 27/12/2025 13:31

Stilish · 27/12/2025 13:20

I walk puppies for the hunt - this is just not true.

From the news

Secret cameras have recorded huntsmen shooting and killing hounds that had been used for hunting.
The pictures, filmed by anti-hunting groups the Hunt Investigation Team and Keep the Ban and shared exclusively with ITV News, is the first time footage of a hunt shooting its hounds has been shown publicly.
Hounds can be killed for several reasons including being too old to hunt, or if they get ill or injured. The practice is not illegal.
The pictures were taken at the kennels of the Duke of Beaufort's Hunt in Badminton, Gloucestershire. The Duke of Beaufort's Hunt told ITV News that its hounds are "humanely euthanised" if they cannot be rehomed. It added that the majority of hounds are "unsuitable for rehoming" because "they are not house-trained and have only ever been used to living in a pack environment".
The secret footage, recorded over several periods between April and September, shows four separate examples of hounds being shot:

  • In two cases, a huntsman is seen putting a gun to the head of the hound and killing it.
  • In another, the hound appears to be unwell and is carried onto the grass by the hunt staff before being shot.
  • Another shows the hound being shot twice, three minutes apart.
Watch the secret footage at a hunt's kennels where hounds were filmed being shot dead This video contains distressing images

Rob Pownall, Keep The Ban founder, said: "It's some pretty upsetting footage but this is commonplace for hunts across the country. This is not an acceptable way to end an animal's life. These hounds suffered immense pain. "The activities shown in the video aren't actually illegal, but there's no moral defence for what's shown."
The footage comes ahead of a vote later this month by National Trust membersto decide whether trail hunts on its land should be banned during the next hunting season.
The National Trust suspended all trail hunting licences last year, alongside a host of other large landowners including Forestry England, following a report by ITV News about the content of webinars hosted by the Hunting Office.

Hounds can be killed for several reasons, including being too old to hunt or if they get ill.
Conservative MP Tracey Crouch, who is co-chair of the All-Party Parliamentary Group for Animal Welfare, said the footage of the hounds being shot dead is "absolutely heartbreaking" and "distressing".
"I don't understand why a dog...needs to be euthanised in this way and I am sure there are much more compassionate ways of putting a dog to sleep", Ms Crouch told ITV News.
"We have many working dogs across this country in different sectors, such as, for example, the police or army, and I doubt very much that those kinds of dogs are put to sleep with a bolt to the head, so I don't quite understand why it is appropriate for hunting hounds to be euthanised this way."
After watching the secret filming, Mike Jessop, a fellow of the Royal College of Veterinary Surgeons, said that from what he saw, he did not believe the huntsmen were professionally trained in putting animals down."There was no evidence of [the huntsperson] being veterinary trained or veterinary surgeons. The lack of use of any veterinary equipment that one would expect such as stethoscopes to ascertain the dogs were dead was just lacking", he said."The evidence from the video doesn't show any illegal activity. My concern is whether there is any suffering after the shot, because nobody is being careful enough in checking the dogs are truly dead."In one of the videos, the [hound's] tail was still waggling very vigorously for quite some time, even when the dog was being loaded in the wheelbarrow.
"I would question, and be concerned, that that dog was still sentient, and therefore had the ability to feel pain.""I would hope that the procedure was being done by a veterinary surgeon in a more humane way, by use of lethal injection, rather than bullet."

Many more articles and evidence available

Aibu to cancel order from fox hunting supporting company?
Electricsausages · 27/12/2025 13:40

This is why I don’t buy Albert Bartlet spuds
no animal deserves that kind of death

Bombinia · 27/12/2025 14:14

Salvadoridory · 27/12/2025 10:53

This is what I mean, its all about selfncongratupation anyway and what makes us feel virtuous. Otherwise people wouldn't be posting whilst wearing knickers stitched by cruelly treated children thousands of miles away, eating meat from slaughterhouses crueller than a hunt dog would have dreamed of and so on. I am a vegetarian but wear leather handbags which are resulting from the same cruel, mocking, pain and humiliating deaths in the hands of really hateful people. We are all hypocrites.

Well I'm vegan and am careful about where I buy things from and what they are made of, so speak for yourself.

MNLurker1345 · 27/12/2025 14:17

This is an interesting thread. OP your AIBU question was clearly to start
the debate into this controversial topic.

I say this because I presume that you are a women that knows her own convictions and do not really need MNetters to tell you what to do, regarding your kitchen supplier.

On the point of the controversial topic of trail hunting, this is as we
all know a current news story and as PPs have alluded to, this government and some of its supporters do seem to be on a mission to expose their dislike of “posh people”.

Now, where did I get from OPs original post to class hatred by way of a kitchen.

But anyway I digress, OP, YANBU for wanting to cancel your kitchen if the supplier supports illegal fox hunting but YABU for asking MN if you should.

I personally have no feelings either way. I do live in the countryside and I will admit to getting a little thrill when I see them out in “those stupid costumes, horses, dogs and all the pretentiousness”.

EezyOozy · 27/12/2025 16:03

Salvadoridory · 27/12/2025 13:01

Thats a good point. Do these folk also object to the travellers coursing? Do they sabotage those bastards trespassing, abusing their dogs and delighting in the blood? No, because they are scary fuckers and not posh. As I mentioned, hypocrites.

Edited

Yes I do disagree with coursing. Why pose a question just to answer it in your own made-up way. 🤔

EezyOozy · 27/12/2025 16:05

DrPrunesqualer · 27/12/2025 13:31

From the news

Secret cameras have recorded huntsmen shooting and killing hounds that had been used for hunting.
The pictures, filmed by anti-hunting groups the Hunt Investigation Team and Keep the Ban and shared exclusively with ITV News, is the first time footage of a hunt shooting its hounds has been shown publicly.
Hounds can be killed for several reasons including being too old to hunt, or if they get ill or injured. The practice is not illegal.
The pictures were taken at the kennels of the Duke of Beaufort's Hunt in Badminton, Gloucestershire. The Duke of Beaufort's Hunt told ITV News that its hounds are "humanely euthanised" if they cannot be rehomed. It added that the majority of hounds are "unsuitable for rehoming" because "they are not house-trained and have only ever been used to living in a pack environment".
The secret footage, recorded over several periods between April and September, shows four separate examples of hounds being shot:

  • In two cases, a huntsman is seen putting a gun to the head of the hound and killing it.
  • In another, the hound appears to be unwell and is carried onto the grass by the hunt staff before being shot.
  • Another shows the hound being shot twice, three minutes apart.
Watch the secret footage at a hunt's kennels where hounds were filmed being shot dead This video contains distressing images

Rob Pownall, Keep The Ban founder, said: "It's some pretty upsetting footage but this is commonplace for hunts across the country. This is not an acceptable way to end an animal's life. These hounds suffered immense pain. "The activities shown in the video aren't actually illegal, but there's no moral defence for what's shown."
The footage comes ahead of a vote later this month by National Trust membersto decide whether trail hunts on its land should be banned during the next hunting season.
The National Trust suspended all trail hunting licences last year, alongside a host of other large landowners including Forestry England, following a report by ITV News about the content of webinars hosted by the Hunting Office.

Hounds can be killed for several reasons, including being too old to hunt or if they get ill.
Conservative MP Tracey Crouch, who is co-chair of the All-Party Parliamentary Group for Animal Welfare, said the footage of the hounds being shot dead is "absolutely heartbreaking" and "distressing".
"I don't understand why a dog...needs to be euthanised in this way and I am sure there are much more compassionate ways of putting a dog to sleep", Ms Crouch told ITV News.
"We have many working dogs across this country in different sectors, such as, for example, the police or army, and I doubt very much that those kinds of dogs are put to sleep with a bolt to the head, so I don't quite understand why it is appropriate for hunting hounds to be euthanised this way."
After watching the secret filming, Mike Jessop, a fellow of the Royal College of Veterinary Surgeons, said that from what he saw, he did not believe the huntsmen were professionally trained in putting animals down."There was no evidence of [the huntsperson] being veterinary trained or veterinary surgeons. The lack of use of any veterinary equipment that one would expect such as stethoscopes to ascertain the dogs were dead was just lacking", he said."The evidence from the video doesn't show any illegal activity. My concern is whether there is any suffering after the shot, because nobody is being careful enough in checking the dogs are truly dead."In one of the videos, the [hound's] tail was still waggling very vigorously for quite some time, even when the dog was being loaded in the wheelbarrow.
"I would question, and be concerned, that that dog was still sentient, and therefore had the ability to feel pain.""I would hope that the procedure was being done by a veterinary surgeon in a more humane way, by use of lethal injection, rather than bullet."

Many more articles and evidence available

No response to this evidence from the “that would never happen” brigade then…

DrPrunesqualer · 27/12/2025 16:17

EezyOozy · 27/12/2025 16:05

No response to this evidence from the “that would never happen” brigade then…

Agree
There never is
Ive put this info on another thread on MNet aswell about hunting
Yep
That was ignored too

but it’s out there now and can’t be denied
hope some learn from it

Yummycarrot · 27/12/2025 16:18

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StarDolphins · 27/12/2025 16:27

No way would I knowingly order from a pro fix hunting company & if I did, I’d cancel. YANBU!

Livpool · 27/12/2025 16:36

MargoylesofBeelzebub · 27/12/2025 09:50

Trail hunts still end up with dead foxes because the hounds can get on the scent of a fox and go for that. Then the hunt throw their hands up in faux naivete like "whoopsie we killed a fox". They also gallivant across the countryside with little regard for anyone else, their dogs can end up on main roads and in other hazardous conditions. The dogs are often not cared for properly. All for a bit of jolly good fun. There's a reason people want to ban it, it's just normal fox hunting dressed up as innocent - absolutely barbaric.

I think a comedian one pointed out if a group of lads on a council estate got together with their Staffies and hunted down squirrels people would be rightly up in arms but because a bunch of well to do people do it in costume on horseback in the countryside it's somehow OK.

👏🏼

I’d cancel too OP - their values don’t align with yours

Overalls · 27/12/2025 16:49

WonderfulSmith · 27/12/2025 13:24

As said already in this thread, people who are against hunting need to avoid Boden. I believe Jonnie Boden is closely involved with the Portman hunt. www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c99vyvn28gxo?app-referrer=deep-link

Someone else to avoid if you don't support hunting

Aibu to cancel order from fox hunting supporting company?
WilfredsPies · 27/12/2025 17:00

I think it’s a little bit hypocritical. It’s not humane to the animals caught up in the trail hunt, but neither is removing calves from their mothers within hours of their birth in the dairy industry, or having animals watch other animals being killed in an abattoir, knowing they’re about to suffer the same fate. Both of those things happen and the effects on the animals concerned are well documented. I’m not convinced that one thing is terrible and the other is ok simply because humans can use the products they get from farming animals.

But, we’re all hypocritical about something. Every one of us. And nothing would ever be improved if people didn’t take a stand on the little things where they could. If it’s important to you then cancel the kitchen. But tell them why, so they know that their opinions will be impacting their sales.

HyggeOatFlatWhite123 · 27/12/2025 17:07

You go mama 🥳🥳😘😘 live your truth!!!🦊🦊

BurntBroccoli · 27/12/2025 18:00

Overalls · 27/12/2025 16:49

Someone else to avoid if you don't support hunting

It’s not going down well on Reddit GBNews. I guess they thought he was a ‘man of the people’ .

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