To have not lied to DS about trans actor in Last Christmas?

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Watching above with DD17 (lesbian) and DS11 (straight) earlier today. One scene where a female presenting (long hair + fake eyelashes) but clearly biologically male actor plays a doctor (just Dr). DS says "that......lady sounds like a man".

I said yeah it is a man love. A man who identifies as a sex they are not.

DD paused then typed a wee bit more furiously than usual for 30 secs but then was ok. She knows tbf. She's lesbian and not pan.

It was so distilled down to me at the point of his very innocent (and tentative so as not to offend question) that I am not prepared to lie to my kid about the fucking fundamentals of life and tell them that person is a woman. Fuck that.

Merry Christmas 🍷

Also FUCK THAT FILM 😭😭😭😭😭

they can but they are still men.

No it really isn't. Fingers are not the same as hips and the pelvic bone.

Long male neck and jawbone stick out. And that is even with the airbrushing. So bs no one kne.

Bell curves are the distribution of ONE characteristic in a population. For any male or female characteristic, with few exceptions, there is overlap between the male and the female bell curve of every charactertic.

The most naturally feminine male in the world will look more like a woman than the most masculine woman does.

What characteristic specifically are you talking about?

Wtf? Are you serious? We all have body odour! Every single one of us. And we all have pheromones.

Nope. There is currently no scientific proof or consensus that humans have pheromones.

You must because you are bending over 360 degrees while clutching desperately at straws to make the point that we cannot tell men from women. At least be honest about your agenda.

What always makes me laugh is that no one can EVER tell us what living as a woman means.

I can only assume living as a woman rather than being a woman must mean role play?

C sections would never have been invented if all women had wide hips/pelvis

You were just telling the truth OP, quite right too

Dear lord.

What on earth!!!!

What a vile human you are, gloating and proud that you’ve been deliberately hateful towards somebody and for what? Why does it matter to you? I bet your DD was texting her friends about you.

Maybe Sandie Peggy is looking a bit pissed off because her employer tried to force her to undress in front of a man then bullied and harassed her when she refused. I’d be royally pissed off too.

What is hateful about the truth?
Genuinely please tell me what is hateful about saying a man dressed in a dress is a man dressed in a dress?

Explain, @HolyFocacciaa , WHERE OP was at all 'hateful'? She didn't even say she disagreed with trans, she didn't say it was wrong. She simply confirmed to her son that the person playing the part is a person who was born male. That's all she did. She said NOTHING...ELSE.

How is that 'hateful'? People like you who lie, distort, misrepresent and use hyperbole are the ones being hateful and causing hate.

Why 'fuck that film' ? Its a good film. What do you mean by your dd being 'not pan'.

I bet you don’t come back to explain exactly which part of the OP was hateful?

I take your point about beech births but my point about variability in hip width stands.

The desperation is amongst women who are obviously completely terrified by the idea that there may be men around who they can't tell from women.

I'm sorry for you that you live in such fear.

And I think it is bizarre that you have no empathy at all for the damage your views do to "unfeminine” women.

It affected Sandy Peggie hugely when a man ‘identifying’ as a woman insisted on sharing a changing room with her and her female
colleague at work and the NHS sided with the man.

No one cares if men wear makeup or cares if they wear dresses. We care if they then claim they are biological woman. The word woman refers to our biology not a feeling in someone's head.

I’m sick and tired of men feeling and therefore claiming they ARE my biology. Men should make up their own description with a new word that isn’t already taken.

If 1 in 4 women weren't sexually assault because of their biological sex.

If I didn’t have top change my behaviour to accommodate threats from biological men.

If I didn’t have to deal with lower pay for the same work

If there wasn’t a call to the police every 3 secs for domestic violence where 98% of the perpetrators were BIOLOGICAL males

And very importantly if there was any evidence that men with feelings of being a woman (whatever that means) had the same rates of sexually and violent offending as biological women I might then consider lowering the protective boundaries from biological men such as single sex spaces.

Living in fear???