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To feel like I don’t like men anymore

463 replies

Dogsinsantasuits · 23/12/2025 21:38

Not as in not attracted to them, although I am less bothered these days
It’s almost like i’m coming to a realisation that most (not all) are not great and women are infinitely stronger people.
Is this an age thing-late 40’s? Sad as I used to really like men. Now all I see around me is amazing women with men who aren’t a patch on them or dangerous and/or perverted men in the news.

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GoldsolesLugs · 28/12/2025 18:17

Cando6 · 28/12/2025 17:45

We (well me) are not saying that men are useless or less valuable than women. We are just saying we don’t want one.
Men are fantastic. I couldn’t live without them. I wish them all well. I just don’t want to have to live with one

Go back and read the op. The thread's explicitly about how men are worse than women, not about whether OP is attracted to men or not.
Obviously anyone telling someone that their personal preferences are wrong is unreasonable.

TrishM80 · 29/12/2025 00:14

GoldsolesLugs · 28/12/2025 18:17

Go back and read the op. The thread's explicitly about how men are worse than women, not about whether OP is attracted to men or not.
Obviously anyone telling someone that their personal preferences are wrong is unreasonable.

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Precisely. Here's the OP:

Not as in not attracted to them, although I am less bothered these days
It’s almost like i’m coming to a realisation that most (not all) are not great and women are infinitely stronger people.
Is this an age thing-late 40’s? Sad as I used to really like men. Now all I see around me is amazing women with men who aren’t a patch on them or dangerous and/or perverted men in the news.

Nothing to do with attraction or relationships, but how women are "infinitely stronger people".

Not "infinitely stronger" enough to change a car tyre or wire a house, but "infinitely stronger" nonetheless.

Absolute manhating nonsense.

FlockOfSausages · 29/12/2025 01:33

TrishM80 · 29/12/2025 00:14

Precisely. Here's the OP:

Not as in not attracted to them, although I am less bothered these days
It’s almost like i’m coming to a realisation that most (not all) are not great and women are infinitely stronger people.
Is this an age thing-late 40’s? Sad as I used to really like men. Now all I see around me is amazing women with men who aren’t a patch on them or dangerous and/or perverted men in the news.

Nothing to do with attraction or relationships, but how women are "infinitely stronger people".

Not "infinitely stronger" enough to change a car tyre or wire a house, but "infinitely stronger" nonetheless.

Absolute manhating nonsense.

Do you realise how stupid you look being the only person in a 300 reply thread pretending not to understand what’s being discussed? Your fake confusion and emotional outbursts “bitter lesbians” is exactly what this threads about.

I would be astonished if somebody this thick is capable of changing a tyre 😀

GaIadriel · 29/12/2025 01:46

Hmm, not so sure I agree about women being the stronger sex after reading the recent thread about conscription! I've never seen so many posters desperately claiming that they couldn't possibly defend their country because they'd be needed as breeders to repopulate it. Confused

Bit of a sudden departure from the usual 'we're as capable as men'/'not defined by our sex' rhetoric.

GaIadriel · 29/12/2025 02:00

The violence, abuse, animal and child abuse and awful porn

Women perpetrate the majority of child abuse though. Quite a few studies have also found that women tend to watch more violent genres of porn than men, despite men consuming more porn overall. It's been identified as a possible trauma response and also suggested that it may be because women are more likely to have masochistic fantasies than men.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/why-are-so-many-women-searching-for-ultra-violent-porn/

https://fightthenewdrug.org/women-watch-more-violent-and-extreme-porn/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/talking-apes/202206/why-do-some-women-violent-porn/amp

Why Are So Many Women Searching for Ultra-Violent Porn?

New data reveals that women in their droves are searching for porn with tags like "extreme brutal gangbang", "forced" and "rape".

https://www.vice.com/en/article/why-are-so-many-women-searching-for-ultra-violent-porn/

StressedoutTeddy845 · 29/12/2025 02:03

FlockOfSausages · 26/12/2025 22:28

When I was married my husband did those things you mentioned. But that isn’t because I was clueless, I did those things for years when I was single. He did them because he wanted to. They are easy status jobs, some of them only need to be done once a year and they were used as justification for not doing anything else.

So when I complained about the laziness he would indignantly argue that he took the cars for the mot. He was rubbish at diy and even worse with financials. So I didn’t rely on him. It might be more accurate to say I let him play out that role against my better judgement.

Yeah the easy status jobs really, really fuck me off. In a lot of households I know, men get to choose the stuff they do. Women do the shit no one wants to do. So we can't even complain because look he does XYZ, what a hero.

Honestly, I'm even starting to love my dad a lot less since I've become a mum. In the last few years I've realized just how much my mum did and how little my dad did. My parents are currently at my house visiting and my dad is so fucking useless.....I used to think he was the fun one, mum was too highly strung etc. Now I look at him with a critical eye and OMG. My poor mother, doing absolutely everything on top of working full time. My dad would.come home and put his feet up (literally). My mum would come and start dinner, mop the floors, clean some toilets. The scary thing is now they're older and retired and that dynamic is even worse. It's making me scared for my own future tbh. DH is not great but not bad enough to leave either. If I do ever leave him, I have no interest in another man ever again.

iamnotalemon · 29/12/2025 02:11

StressedoutTeddy845 · 29/12/2025 02:03

Yeah the easy status jobs really, really fuck me off. In a lot of households I know, men get to choose the stuff they do. Women do the shit no one wants to do. So we can't even complain because look he does XYZ, what a hero.

Honestly, I'm even starting to love my dad a lot less since I've become a mum. In the last few years I've realized just how much my mum did and how little my dad did. My parents are currently at my house visiting and my dad is so fucking useless.....I used to think he was the fun one, mum was too highly strung etc. Now I look at him with a critical eye and OMG. My poor mother, doing absolutely everything on top of working full time. My dad would.come home and put his feet up (literally). My mum would come and start dinner, mop the floors, clean some toilets. The scary thing is now they're older and retired and that dynamic is even worse. It's making me scared for my own future tbh. DH is not great but not bad enough to leave either. If I do ever leave him, I have no interest in another man ever again.

My dad is a lazy so and so, certainly in retirement, and cooks once in a blue moon. I don’t want this life for myself thank you very much.

I’m not here to be someone’s maid. Probably helps that I don’t have children though, so not literally left holding the baby.

TrishM80 · 29/12/2025 02:20

FlockOfSausages · 29/12/2025 01:33

Do you realise how stupid you look being the only person in a 300 reply thread pretending not to understand what’s being discussed? Your fake confusion and emotional outbursts “bitter lesbians” is exactly what this threads about.

I would be astonished if somebody this thick is capable of changing a tyre 😀

I'd absolutely bet every penny I own that you've never changed a car tyre nor would have the first clue where to start.

FlockOfSausages · 29/12/2025 02:48

GaIadriel · 29/12/2025 02:00

The violence, abuse, animal and child abuse and awful porn

Women perpetrate the majority of child abuse though. Quite a few studies have also found that women tend to watch more violent genres of porn than men, despite men consuming more porn overall. It's been identified as a possible trauma response and also suggested that it may be because women are more likely to have masochistic fantasies than men.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/why-are-so-many-women-searching-for-ultra-violent-porn/

https://fightthenewdrug.org/women-watch-more-violent-and-extreme-porn/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/talking-apes/202206/why-do-some-women-violent-porn/amp

Those links aren’t peer-reviewed studies. They’re journalistic articles and opinion pieces.

GaIadriel · 29/12/2025 02:54

StressedoutTeddy845 · 29/12/2025 02:03

Yeah the easy status jobs really, really fuck me off. In a lot of households I know, men get to choose the stuff they do. Women do the shit no one wants to do. So we can't even complain because look he does XYZ, what a hero.

Honestly, I'm even starting to love my dad a lot less since I've become a mum. In the last few years I've realized just how much my mum did and how little my dad did. My parents are currently at my house visiting and my dad is so fucking useless.....I used to think he was the fun one, mum was too highly strung etc. Now I look at him with a critical eye and OMG. My poor mother, doing absolutely everything on top of working full time. My dad would.come home and put his feet up (literally). My mum would come and start dinner, mop the floors, clean some toilets. The scary thing is now they're older and retired and that dynamic is even worse. It's making me scared for my own future tbh. DH is not great but not bad enough to leave either. If I do ever leave him, I have no interest in another man ever again.

The other possibility is that you've turned into your mum and become highly strung too. 🤣 Maybe not but it's defo a possibility.

MondeoFan · 29/12/2025 02:56

Been thinking this for a long time

GaIadriel · 29/12/2025 03:11

FlockOfSausages · 29/12/2025 02:48

Those links aren’t peer-reviewed studies. They’re journalistic articles and opinion pieces.

Well, no, an article is clearly not a peer reviewed study - it's an article. If you want to view the studies you'll have to scroll down to the citations at the bottom and follow the links to the relevant university studies / British Journal of Criminology studies etc.

Might also be worth reminding people that the patriarchy is just a theory/opinion too, alongside the vast majority of feminism. It shouldn't really need explained but you can never be too sure when you're dealing with the type of people that think a demographic can be defined by things like femicide, which over 99.99% of men never actually ever commit.

FlockOfSausages · 29/12/2025 03:15

TrishM80 · 29/12/2025 02:20

I'd absolutely bet every penny I own that you've never changed a car tyre nor would have the first clue where to start.

And I’d bet every penny I own that the majority of women on this thread are more than familiar with the toxic game of I’m too thick to understand, explain it to me repeatedly while I dismiss and insult you

Some men are not lonely enough.

ISeeYouHere · 29/12/2025 03:25

I think it’s a natural thing. Women grow older, their children grow up and they become less interested in having sex with men so no longer care to be seen as desirable by them and stop participating in the game at which point they realise how much precious life was wasted on this stuff.

Ijwwm · 29/12/2025 04:15

TrishM80 · 29/12/2025 02:20

I'd absolutely bet every penny I own that you've never changed a car tyre nor would have the first clue where to start.

Please send me all of your money now, cos I can change a tyre (haven’t had to do it for a number of years mind).

It seems a strange hill to die on, your obsession with changing tyres. It doesn’t really bring much to the discussion. I mean, I wouldn’t dismiss a bloke if they didn’t know how to change a tyre. There are enough reasons to find them lacking (as shown on this thread) that tyre changing is way down on the list!

I know the well known quote that mens biggest fear is that women will laugh at them. As time moves on, I think their biggest fear is that women don’t “need” them. And I’m not talking about their ability to build things, invent things, etc. They are becoming frightened that women don’t need them in the sense of being in a relationship. And it’s frightening the fuck out of them.

PenelopeChipShop · 29/12/2025 05:05

YANBU. I’ve been single (with kids) for 9 years now and haven’t found a new man worth having a relationship with. I went through a phase of dating and had a bit of fun but more recently (I’m 45) I can’t be bothered.

I try really hard not to have this outlook but men make it difficult. I think men of my generation just haven’t been expected to play the role of an equal partner. I really notice that single men I’ve met/dated tend to live with their parents (this has come up a lot!) and/or live quite chaotically or messily. I had a date with a 50-something recently (after not dating virtually all year) - he is basically unemployed, living in his mums home and not doing very much. I have 2 dcs who live with me over 90 per cent of the time, 2 jobs, I keep fit and have a healthy lifestyle… he was fairly charming but my brain was thinking ‘this guy isn’t really a match for you.’ There wasn’t much we could really talk about. I’ve found this repeatedly. I don’t think I want to spend the rare nights my dc see their dad on a mediocre date when I could be pursuing my hobbies or health / fitness or seeing female friends.

My ex-DH got jealous of the attention he lost when our dc were small and left for a younger woman in the office - horrendous at the time but I’m much happier without him. My dad is spending his retirement sinking into alcoholism and my mum constantly rings me to moan about it. Married friends often seem like ‘married single mothers’. I think I’ll stay single but I’m trying hard to raise my son to be different from his dad!

GinJeanie · 29/12/2025 07:15

Apologies if this has already been posted - I don't have time to read the whole thread. I agree though - I'm in my 50s and I feel like the scales have fallen from my eyes. I quite like my DH though!

To feel like I don’t like men anymore
Fixydodah · 29/12/2025 07:39

The obsession with changing tyres! Just a derail of the thread. This is an interesting thread, apart from that fixated poster.

Dogsinsantasuits · 29/12/2025 08:25

StressedoutTeddy845 · 29/12/2025 02:03

Yeah the easy status jobs really, really fuck me off. In a lot of households I know, men get to choose the stuff they do. Women do the shit no one wants to do. So we can't even complain because look he does XYZ, what a hero.

Honestly, I'm even starting to love my dad a lot less since I've become a mum. In the last few years I've realized just how much my mum did and how little my dad did. My parents are currently at my house visiting and my dad is so fucking useless.....I used to think he was the fun one, mum was too highly strung etc. Now I look at him with a critical eye and OMG. My poor mother, doing absolutely everything on top of working full time. My dad would.come home and put his feet up (literally). My mum would come and start dinner, mop the floors, clean some toilets. The scary thing is now they're older and retired and that dynamic is even worse. It's making me scared for my own future tbh. DH is not great but not bad enough to leave either. If I do ever leave him, I have no interest in another man ever again.

Feel 100% the same about my mum & dad’s relationship

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Dogsinsantasuits · 29/12/2025 08:30

Seems a couple of men have entered the thread and it’s definitely not females with different opinions. Their views and way of writing are actually a bit creepy

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UniquePinkSwan · 29/12/2025 08:32

This thread is appalling. Could you imagine the uproar if men started a post like his.

CrazyGoatLady · 29/12/2025 09:13

UniquePinkSwan · 29/12/2025 08:32

This thread is appalling. Could you imagine the uproar if men started a post like his.

Women do not pose a risk to men in the same way men do to women.

Fixydodah · 29/12/2025 09:48

They probably have @CrazyGoatLady on one of their own sites. And a damn sight worse.

Fixydodah · 29/12/2025 09:50

That comment was meant to be for @UniquePinkSwan

XWKD · 29/12/2025 10:07

In my life, some people have been great, but apart from the good ones, the men and women have been as bad as each other.