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To feel like I don’t like men anymore

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Dogsinsantasuits · 23/12/2025 21:38

Not as in not attracted to them, although I am less bothered these days
It’s almost like i’m coming to a realisation that most (not all) are not great and women are infinitely stronger people.
Is this an age thing-late 40’s? Sad as I used to really like men. Now all I see around me is amazing women with men who aren’t a patch on them or dangerous and/or perverted men in the news.

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ForeverHopeful3 · 25/12/2025 02:33

I just recently turned 34, single since May (out of a toxic relationship that I tried so hard to make it work), and I am feeling more and more like what you describe with each passing day.

I still find men attractive but I have zero interest in showing interest to them, and I completely ignore them when out and about.

Cando6 · 25/12/2025 05:52

Not enjoying all this piling on the men. They are half the humans and we need to build societies that work for everyone.
It is worrying to think we ended up with patriarchy all over the world because that’s the only system that works for men.
Women have adapted quickly to independence but men often seem unable to be happy without the traditional set up of being supported by a female who takes care of everything domestic so he can pursue what he wants.
I don’t know why we’re blaming male humans for acting like male humans. Testosterone is powerful!
I consider men from a biological viewpoint. It helps make sense of things. They are more extreme in general. More focussed. More likely to take risks. To effect change. To invent. To build. Why are we talking as if ‘we’ don’t need them?
The BEST people I know are mostly men. The engineers, scientists, inventors, musicians and authors. I just really really don’t want one in my house and my young adult daughters are pretty sure they don’t want one in their lives.
It’s worrying because I want my son to be happy and recognise he will likely want a woman for that to be possible.

Rubyslippers25 · 25/12/2025 06:16

Cando6 · 25/12/2025 05:52

Not enjoying all this piling on the men. They are half the humans and we need to build societies that work for everyone.
It is worrying to think we ended up with patriarchy all over the world because that’s the only system that works for men.
Women have adapted quickly to independence but men often seem unable to be happy without the traditional set up of being supported by a female who takes care of everything domestic so he can pursue what he wants.
I don’t know why we’re blaming male humans for acting like male humans. Testosterone is powerful!
I consider men from a biological viewpoint. It helps make sense of things. They are more extreme in general. More focussed. More likely to take risks. To effect change. To invent. To build. Why are we talking as if ‘we’ don’t need them?
The BEST people I know are mostly men. The engineers, scientists, inventors, musicians and authors. I just really really don’t want one in my house and my young adult daughters are pretty sure they don’t want one in their lives.
It’s worrying because I want my son to be happy and recognise he will likely want a woman for that to be possible.

It's funny how many people get outraged when some women point out that many men choose to behave very badly and need to step up, because apparently saying that is a terrible insult to men. Then many of those same people turn around and justify male misbehavior as some kind of inevitable biological destiny. To me, that's far more insulting. It treats men like mindless animals with zero self control. I believe men are perfectly capable of being responsible adults who share childcare and household labor fairly, manage their emotions, restrain from violence and so on. Many simply choose not to, because society has long allowed them to get away with it, and they can't be bothered to do better.

Mummadeze · 25/12/2025 06:37

I have been in a toxic relationship for a long time. I read the advice about being a grey rock and that worked. But years of practicing not engaging with him on any kind of emotional level has left me totally disinterested in men in general. When / if i eventually manage to become single and live apart from him, I am hopeful I will never need to be close to another man again. Obviously those are specific circumstances but every woman I know has so many issues with their partners and as for all the disgusting predators coming out of the woodwork, it is enough to put me off completely. I just wouldn’t trust a man again, even if they seem nice.

sunshinestar1986 · 25/12/2025 06:48

illsendansostotheworld · 23/12/2025 22:03

The older l get, the more l see it. I have one male friend who has actually said to me when he'd old he's going to move in with me so l can look after him! Jog on mate!

😂
He must think you'd be so fortunate to have a bloke to look after
Omg
The poor delusional guy

sunshinestar1986 · 25/12/2025 06:56

TrishM80 · 24/12/2025 16:03

I'd be genuinely surprised if more than 10% of women could change a car tyre unassisted from start to finish.

Many men can't do it either
You can just call someone to do it.
If it was a must, you best believe women would learn how to do it.

NumbersGuy · 25/12/2025 07:06

Well, to all of the future lesbians, welcome to the LGBTQIA+ community. You're welcome to pick up your membership packets at the Lesbian Community Project in Manchester, where you can also take your pick of a free toaster or coffee set. 🤗

arethereanyleftatall · 25/12/2025 07:52

Catladywithoutacat · 25/12/2025 01:26

Men are great when you don’t have to date them

Love this!! Spot on.

Darlingx · 25/12/2025 08:17

It seems men just want to be suckling on the teat of motherhood until the grave. They can’t unsee the mother in the woman be it their mother or her becoming a mother and yet ..

Motherhood is taken for granted. Growing a life in your body and feeding it and now she is changing the wheel on the car too.
When they made the film Robocop it should have been a mother expressing milk whilst multitasking every other ill in society
The human race depends on this role life depends on it.
I dated a record breaking mountaineer scaling heights without oxygen he went on to meet a woman who would join him on these recognised achievements . She died giving birth to their only child.
It goes to show how risky Childbirth is it could be akin to the Summit of something its just taken for granted but there hinges life itself and women give their body to carry life but hey can they change a wheel yes they can learn this skill but are the skyscrapers of wealth going to have a creche on every floor ?
The social construct we are fed ignores the cycle of our Climate , Nature and Bloodlines of creation if u went to the control panel they understand this and its how they control all of us men and women.
They have us disconnected and weaponise our biology hence the battle of the sexes.
I wonder what harmony we could create if we all didn’t carry the weight of judgement on ourselves we can’t opt out from half the human race .

KimberleyClark · 25/12/2025 09:00

Darlingx · 25/12/2025 08:17

It seems men just want to be suckling on the teat of motherhood until the grave. They can’t unsee the mother in the woman be it their mother or her becoming a mother and yet ..

Motherhood is taken for granted. Growing a life in your body and feeding it and now she is changing the wheel on the car too.
When they made the film Robocop it should have been a mother expressing milk whilst multitasking every other ill in society
The human race depends on this role life depends on it.
I dated a record breaking mountaineer scaling heights without oxygen he went on to meet a woman who would join him on these recognised achievements . She died giving birth to their only child.
It goes to show how risky Childbirth is it could be akin to the Summit of something its just taken for granted but there hinges life itself and women give their body to carry life but hey can they change a wheel yes they can learn this skill but are the skyscrapers of wealth going to have a creche on every floor ?
The social construct we are fed ignores the cycle of our Climate , Nature and Bloodlines of creation if u went to the control panel they understand this and its how they control all of us men and women.
They have us disconnected and weaponise our biology hence the battle of the sexes.
I wonder what harmony we could create if we all didn’t carry the weight of judgement on ourselves we can’t opt out from half the human race .

The non mothers who spend their working lives supporting working mothers are also taken for granted I feel.

Darlingx · 25/12/2025 09:08

KimberleyClark · 25/12/2025 09:00

The non mothers who spend their working lives supporting working mothers are also taken for granted I feel.

True I am one of those 😂I always got told I was like family but no one knew my Birthday

Darlingx · 25/12/2025 09:20

Also so much is outsourced for the liberation of women but it is usually the domestic load to another woman so I feel its still a woman chained to the kitchen sink a lot of the time.

RememberBeKindWithKaren · 25/12/2025 10:40

Given so much hatred for men, it's probably not surprising when it is returned..

Squirrel60 · 25/12/2025 10:52

I've never been a man friend anyway, I don't like being anywhere near them! Except Erik Estrada, I'd make an exception for him!

KimberleyClark · 25/12/2025 11:00

Darlingx · 25/12/2025 09:20

Also so much is outsourced for the liberation of women but it is usually the domestic load to another woman so I feel its still a woman chained to the kitchen sink a lot of the time.

Very true.

FlockOfSausages · 25/12/2025 11:08

RememberBeKindWithKaren · 25/12/2025 10:40

Given so much hatred for men, it's probably not surprising when it is returned..

Women discussing why they don’t want relationships with men isn’t hatred. It’s experience. You seem to be implying criticism justifies men’s aggression.

Gettingbysomehow · 25/12/2025 11:15

Join the club OP. I have only had two decent men in my life, my dear grandfather and my wonderful neighbour Brian both sadly RIP. Selfless, brave, hard working. All the others have been a waste of space. At 50 I realised I didn't want any more men in my life.

artfiend · 25/12/2025 11:34

I remember having a moment of real sudden clarity in my early thirties. I was in a long term relationship at the time. We lived together, said we loved each other, had children, were even officially married towards the end of it. And it suddenly dawned on me that if he'd been expected to put in even a fraction of the effort I did, he would probably have run for the hills.

On the surface, we were living the same life. Same house, similar working hours, roughly the same salary. But underneath that, there were vast areas of everyday life he had no real awareness of and no interest in understanding. Everything domestic sat with me - housework, decorating, childcare, organising holidays and leisure, and all the invisible admin that keeps life functioning. Bills, mortgage, insurances, subscriptions, medical appointments, everything. He took care of his work admin and his car, and that was essentially it - unless I very explicitly asked for something and then reminded twenty times, becoming the nagging wife (and in the end it always was much easier to just do it myself).

If I eased off even slightly because work was intense or say because of illness, he noticed immediately and raised it. But the reverse never seemed to apply. He never once disadvantaged himself for my benefit. My needs and interests didn't really exist on his radar unless I spelled them out very explicitly and framed them as demands.

And when something went "wrong" (missed appointments, diary clashes, late payments etc), because those areas were "mine", any mistake automatically became my fault. Over time, it began to feel as though I am just making only mistakes, and he was the one patiently suffering from them.

That realisation crystallised more than a decade ago, incidentally, a few days after Christmas, which is when we split. He hadn't got me anything at all, because he "wasn't even sure what I was interested in" and I hadn't pointed to something specific and said "I want it". It was a genuine eye-opener. After half a decade together, talking endlessly about life, sharing hobbies, likes and dislikes, travelling, going to lectures, museums, concerts, festivals, gigs, trips. Discussing politics, current and historical affairs, books and films. And yet he still had no real idea who I was as a person, beyond the fact that I was the one who knew how to make the washing machine work.

I'm in another long term relationship now, with somewhat similar (a bit more equal) dynamic and I do love the guy. But I’ve accepted that he's more of an ornamental addition to my life than someone I need on a gut level, and I don't set my expectations too high.

RememberBeKindWithKaren · 25/12/2025 11:50

@FlockOfSausages I expect men call it experience as well

BoxesBoxesEverywhere · 25/12/2025 11:56

YABU, from another woman in her 40s.
Sweeping, negative generalisations and blanket "I don't like" even if sticking in a token "not all" are never good and just pure prejudice.
It's just as bad as the other way round, imagine men saying this to women.
Merry Christmas.

TheSweetestCon · 25/12/2025 12:35

RememberBeKindWithKaren · 25/12/2025 10:40

Given so much hatred for men, it's probably not surprising when it is returned..

Which rule of misogyny is this again? The one about about women being responsible for men's behaviour, I mean?

BoxesBoxesEverywhere · 25/12/2025 13:13

RememberBeKindWithKaren · 25/12/2025 11:50

@FlockOfSausages I expect men call it experience as well

Exactly

JFDIYOLO · 25/12/2025 13:17

The Rules of Misogyny:

  1. Women are responsible for what men do. 'Now look what you made me do.'
  1. Women saying no to men is a hate crime.
  1. Women speaking for themselves are exclusionary and selfish.
  1. Women’s opinions are violence against men, thus male violence against women is justified.
  1. Women and Feminism must be useful to men or they are worthless.
  1. Women who go around being female AT men by menstruating and breastfeeding babies deserve punishment.
  1. Women should always be grateful to men for everything.
  1. Men are whatever men say they are and women are whatever men say they are.
  1. Men always know the “real reasons” for everything women do and say.
  1. The worst thing about male violence is that it makes men look bad.

  2. Whatever women suffer from, it is worse when it happens to men.

  3. Women’s ability to recognize male behavior patterns is misandry. I wo.drr how many women with this nasty bug are dragging themselves around today making Christmas for husbands with this nasty bug.

  4. Angry women are crazy. Angry men have trouble expressing themselves. It's because women are emotional.

  5. Women have all the rights they need: The right to remain silent.

  6. Men are the default human. Women are strange subhuman others. You're lucky if the drugs and treatment you've been prescribed have been trialled on actual women.

  7. Everyone owns and controls women’s bodies except the women themselves.

forwomen.scot/05/02/2025/rules-of-misogyny/

GoldsolesLugs · 25/12/2025 17:08

JFDIYOLO · 25/12/2025 13:17

The Rules of Misogyny:

  1. Women are responsible for what men do. 'Now look what you made me do.'
  1. Women saying no to men is a hate crime.
  1. Women speaking for themselves are exclusionary and selfish.
  1. Women’s opinions are violence against men, thus male violence against women is justified.
  1. Women and Feminism must be useful to men or they are worthless.
  1. Women who go around being female AT men by menstruating and breastfeeding babies deserve punishment.
  1. Women should always be grateful to men for everything.
  1. Men are whatever men say they are and women are whatever men say they are.
  1. Men always know the “real reasons” for everything women do and say.
  1. The worst thing about male violence is that it makes men look bad.

  2. Whatever women suffer from, it is worse when it happens to men.

  3. Women’s ability to recognize male behavior patterns is misandry. I wo.drr how many women with this nasty bug are dragging themselves around today making Christmas for husbands with this nasty bug.

  4. Angry women are crazy. Angry men have trouble expressing themselves. It's because women are emotional.

  5. Women have all the rights they need: The right to remain silent.

  6. Men are the default human. Women are strange subhuman others. You're lucky if the drugs and treatment you've been prescribed have been trialled on actual women.

  7. Everyone owns and controls women’s bodies except the women themselves.

forwomen.scot/05/02/2025/rules-of-misogyny/

Rule 17 women need men to help them with computers, particularly formatting forum posts.

Dogsinsantasuits · 26/12/2025 13:07

GoldsolesLugs · 25/12/2025 17:08

Rule 17 women need men to help them with computers, particularly formatting forum posts.

What? Guessing you’re a guy?

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