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MIL wants to arrive 6AM Xmas day

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Countrybumpkin19 · 23/12/2025 18:53

My MIL lives on her own and close by.
The last couple of years she has arrived at our house at 6AM on Christmas day as she likes to see my DDs open their stockings. She has never asked me if that's ok (though presumably spoke to my husband about it). I find it far too much - I don't want to have to talk to any visitors at 6AM when I'm half asleep (least of all my MIL) and see it as an invasion of privacy. As far as I see it stocking opening is intimate family time and I feel she enroaches on this.
This year I sent her a really nice text message asking if it would be ok if she arrived at 9AM so that we have a little bit of time first thing to get ready and prepare for the day (I'm doing all the cooking/hosting). She is then welcome to spend the rest of the day with us. She is really upset by this message and my husband thinks I'm being unreasonable (it has opened up a big argument between us). AIBU?

OP posts:
BandedSnail · 24/12/2025 17:04

NewNameforThisPost2025 · 24/12/2025 16:41

Why can't MIL sit on a chair or on the edge/end of the bed? I didn't think that she would actually get into bed with them, lol!

I think the fuck not.

Silvers11 · 24/12/2025 17:12

My 4 year old, many, many years ago, did similar. When woken up with the words 'wake up, Santa has been' replied 'GO AWAY. I'm trying to sleep'. He's late 40's now and he still gets teased about it 😁😂

NewNameforThisPost2025 · 24/12/2025 17:12

RedToothBrush · 24/12/2025 08:37

Whilst you are polishing your halo and congratulating yourself on how wonderful you are I'd like you ponder on two points.

Firstly, not wishing to get out of bed at 6am on Christmas Day to entertain isn't selfish or representative of family estrangement. You seem to be making a parallel that doesn't exist to virtue signal how wonderful you are for being involved with your family. It's just not wanting to make your day longer and more stressful than it needs to be. OP will definitely have MIL over on Christmas Day, she just doesn't want to have to put on a show from 6am and that seems perfectly reasonable to most normal people.

Secondly, this idea that family estrangement is a modern phenomena is fairly wild, given how over the centuries young couples would migrate to different countries and never be heard from again as you couldn't just go home on holiday or even send a letter. You would just leave, forever. And this wasn't unusual. But of course that doesn't count because we don't think about the past in this way and we assume that everyone lived in the same village and the same street forever and don't have any context because it's people who have long been forgotten.

In terms of moving around, my family has disappeared all over the place since the 1830s at least. There's one couple in my family from Gloucestershire who lived in a village that was absolutely decimated as the whole cotton / weaving industry collapsed. More than 50% of the village were destitute and the parish were struggling to support them so they shipped loads of them off to the New World. My ancestors didn't do this. They instead walked to Leeds and never saw their families again. There was no extended family. Two of their daughters eventually moved to Texas too. And this is a fairly typical story of its time.

I've also got Irish Ancestry. My Irish family didn't leave Ireland during the Great Famine which is the opposite to many. They stayed. They started leaving Ireland in the 1870s through to the 1920s. Again never seen again by family. Some of them left for family alienation reasons - my great grandfather wouldn't speak of his family saying only that "they didn't care about me, so why should I care about them".

Suggesting that family estrangement is a new concept is absolute claptrap with no historical accuracy and pretty ignorant tbh. Lots of people might have written about it, but that doesn't mean they aren't writing complete bollocks based on modern day fallacies about the past.

Edited

I disagree with the moving-around part. My family on both sides did stay in the same two places for hundreds of years, but what's more useful than anecdotes is a study that was done by Liverpool University (might have been Leicester) a few years ago that showed how the vast majority of people, even today, stay close to where they were brought up and always have done.

My family are all dead now. Like, all dead. So I freely admit I can't be rational about this. My parents and my MIL (never had a FIL) used to drive me nuts too. But now I wonder why I let it bother me so much, and wish I hadn't let it.

Crikeyalmighty · 24/12/2025 17:20

@Countrybumpkin19 she’s a very lucky lady to be able to see her grandchildren so regularly and I think she means well but somewhere along the way because of the proximity normal ‘boundaries’ of ‘closeness’ have become a bit blurred - I had a friend like this many years ago who lived next door but one. I loved her to bits but somewhere along the line it all became a bit popping round whenever she felt like it on spec - I was married with young kids too . Have a lovely Christmas x

Dontgochasingrainbows · 24/12/2025 17:21

BandedSnail · 24/12/2025 17:04

I think the fuck not.

I am cringing at just the thought of MIL sitting in a corner of my room while I'm waking up.

The only time people, outside of immediate family, should see you in bed, is in a hospital.

IreneFromSkibbereen · 24/12/2025 17:25

Absolutely ridiculous. Is she mad? Nobody arrives at people’s houses at 6 am! Tell her to arrive mid-morning or an hour or so before you have dinner, whenever that is.

BandedSnail · 24/12/2025 17:27

Dontgochasingrainbows · 24/12/2025 17:21

I am cringing at just the thought of MIL sitting in a corner of my room while I'm waking up.

The only time people, outside of immediate family, should see you in bed, is in a hospital.

And even then, only with an invitation!

LizzieW1969 · 24/12/2025 17:28

I think the MIL is very unreasonable to be arriving at 6am on Christmas morning. I would absolutely hate that, especially as I'm not a morning person. I wouldn’t be happy with 9am either for that matter.

We’ve always had my MIL stay for a few days when she spends Christian with us (every other year) and I have to say I quite like it, as at least there’s no pressure on Christmas morning to make an early start. (As long as we’ve made a good start on the meal prep.)

But then again, my MIL is lovely and just fits in with whatever we’re doing. It doesn't sound as if this is at all the case with the OP’s MIL.

NewNameforThisPost2025 · 24/12/2025 17:34

sittingonabeach · 24/12/2025 10:17

@RedToothBrush that’s what we did when I was a child and when DC were little. If you woke up early you played with stocking toys in your own bed until parents were awake. Worked well apart from one year I was given a talking Basil Brush toy and woke up the whole house including GPs with his ‘Boom Boom’ 😂

🤣🤣🤣🤣

BettysRoasties · 24/12/2025 17:35

I can’t even imagine wanting to be up dressed and traveled to someone’s to be a visitor at someone’s house for 6am.

To go on holiday sure but to watch some stockings get opened and drink a coffee. I’d rather be sleeping 😅 or if I was awake comfy and watching shit on tv

NewNameforThisPost2025 · 24/12/2025 17:39

Penisbeakeralltheclassics · 24/12/2025 09:47

Oh your one with strong ‘boundaries’ I take it?

People who go on about boundaries are so tedious, and tend not to be generous-natured, I've noticed. I wish that dratted word had never spilled over from therapy-speak! It can be a useful concept for those who have difficulty asserting themselves, but too often it's used as a licence to indulge a self-centred, petty nature by those who never had trouble asserting themselves in the first place.

SillyNavyTiger · 24/12/2025 17:43

is someone "self-centred and petty" because they dont' make their life revolve around you? I am not sure.

Boundaries is a good word, sounds like people should learn them and stick with them

NewNameforThisPost2025 · 24/12/2025 17:54

SillyNavyTiger · 24/12/2025 17:43

is someone "self-centred and petty" because they dont' make their life revolve around you? I am not sure.

Boundaries is a good word, sounds like people should learn them and stick with them

It's a massively tedious and pompous word for something which used to be called, quite simply, saying no.

republicofjam · 24/12/2025 17:54

NewNameforThisPost2025 · 24/12/2025 16:41

Why can't MIL sit on a chair or on the edge/end of the bed? I didn't think that she would actually get into bed with them, lol!

Absolutely not icky or creepy at all.😬

NewNameforThisPost2025 · 24/12/2025 17:55

IndolentCat · 24/12/2025 17:02

I wouldn’t want my MiL in my bedroom while I’m in bed, full stop. It would be weird, and as OP said early on, that family bed thing is just for immediate family- it’s quite intimate. I don’t think I’d do it with a step parent either tbh.

Anyway you seem very invested in this MiL being allowed to come round at 6am, are you she!?

🤣 No, but wouldn't it be funny if I was!

NewNameforThisPost2025 · 24/12/2025 17:59

republicofjam · 24/12/2025 17:54

Absolutely not icky or creepy at all.😬

Of course it's not! You're all family and she's the kids' grandma. Everyone mucks in together. So what if she sees you in your jammies, honestly! Sitting on the edge of the bed or on a bedroom chair is just fine.

TheBlueHedgehog · 24/12/2025 18:23

NewNameforThisPost2025 · 24/12/2025 17:59

Of course it's not! You're all family and she's the kids' grandma. Everyone mucks in together. So what if she sees you in your jammies, honestly! Sitting on the edge of the bed or on a bedroom chair is just fine.

I think this is one of those agree to disagree topics.

Personally, I wouldn’t be comfortable with my MIL (or any parent) sitting in my bedroom while me, DP and DC were all in bed together. Not because it’s creepy, but because it’s a level of intimacy I’m not comfortable sharing beyond my partner.

I don’t think it’s for you or me to say what’s right or wrong here but if either partner is uncomfortable, it shouldn’t happen. Feeling comfortable in your own home matters, and your partner should respect that.

SillyNavyTiger · 24/12/2025 18:32

NewNameforThisPost2025 · 24/12/2025 17:59

Of course it's not! You're all family and she's the kids' grandma. Everyone mucks in together. So what if she sees you in your jammies, honestly! Sitting on the edge of the bed or on a bedroom chair is just fine.

😂😂😂

this can't be real.

BandedSnail · 24/12/2025 18:33

NewNameforThisPost2025 · 24/12/2025 17:59

Of course it's not! You're all family and she's the kids' grandma. Everyone mucks in together. So what if she sees you in your jammies, honestly! Sitting on the edge of the bed or on a bedroom chair is just fine.

I don't want my parents, in laws or siblings sitting in my bedroom thank you.

Factsoverfiction · 24/12/2025 18:41

Just sit in the front room. Why are you all so rigid?

BandedSnail · 24/12/2025 18:42

Factsoverfiction · 24/12/2025 18:41

Just sit in the front room. Why are you all so rigid?

Why should they change everything just for MIL?

Factsoverfiction · 24/12/2025 18:51

BandedSnail · 24/12/2025 18:42

Why should they change everything just for MIL?

Change everything = sit downstairs? How will you cope? It’s their mum/nan/mil.

BettysRoasties · 24/12/2025 18:53

Factsoverfiction · 24/12/2025 18:51

Change everything = sit downstairs? How will you cope? It’s their mum/nan/mil.

How about eveyone compromises. Why is it always on one side to appease the other entirely.

nanny comes around 9am.

Op still have to get up and be presentable earlier than would like.

win win like adults. Like is the actual outcome.

phoenixrosehere · 24/12/2025 19:06

Factsoverfiction · 24/12/2025 18:41

Just sit in the front room. Why are you all so rigid?

That’s what they were doing for years and OP has had enough of doing this for someone who can easily come by at a decent time but chooses not to because MIL wants things her way.

Why has MIL been so rigid and not come when it is at least daylight? Sunrise is about 8:15 am in my area. There’s no legitimate reason to be up to appease one person who can come at a later time which is what she is doing this time from what OP has updated.

It would be considered rude to many if someone chose to be up and moving about at 6am and expecting everyone who lived there to be up with them in most circumstances no matter who they are.

TheBlueHedgehog · 24/12/2025 19:31

Factsoverfiction · 24/12/2025 18:41

Just sit in the front room. Why are you all so rigid?

Ah yes because the rigid person in this scenario couldn't possibly be the adult who is upset that she's been asked to arrive at 9am on Christmas day, not 6am 😂

This thread is bonkers!

If you are happy to welcome people into your home at 6am (meaning you would need to be awake prior to this) then knock yourself out, but for most people this is completely unreasonable.

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