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Brother saying he would never date a British girl

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Glambow · 19/12/2025 02:13

My brother is 27, we met up tonight for some drinks as we won’t see each other over Christmas, we aren’t especially close as there is a large age gap.
We got onto chatting about his dating life and he said “yeah I don’t know I’d just never date a British girl”, I was confused by this so pressed a bit and he expanded saying he wouldn’t date a girl who was raised in the UK or had spent most of her life in the UK. He also said he wouldn’t date Americans, Australians or Canadians. His reasoning was “accents are hot and I just don’t like British girls”.
This does appear to be true as his current girlfriend is from Argentina and his exes have been Norwegian, Italian and Armenian.

AIBU to think this is a very strange preference? Part of me can’t help but feel like there is something off about it.

OP posts:
Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 19/12/2025 11:21

NameChangeElaine · 19/12/2025 10:51

Read my post and the post I was replying to again please; I was only explaining my original comment that the poster took issue with.

  1. You’re wrong, the specific people I was referring to all had the relevant testing and had NO LEARNING DIFFICULTIES; that’s why I specifically worked with them as opposed to another professional who specialised in SEN. As I said, it was an access to education issue as opposed to a capability issue and once given a standard education, they excelled. There is a reason why I clearly said what I said in my post and as I worked in this area, I know what I’m talking about thanks.
  2. The post I was replying to said I HAD NOT met anyone who spoke English as a second language more proficiently than a native speaker so I was explaining that yes I had and why; I stated a fact - which you actually agree with - but that poster said wasn’t true.

As usual, context is everything and if you read my full posts, my comment will make more sense. My whole point is to not assume that because someone speaks English as a second language that they are easier prey than a native speaker.

I read your full post.
It was ridiculous.

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 19/12/2025 11:30

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 19/12/2025 11:21

I read your full post.
It was ridiculous.

Just to clarify

I taught ESOL for 8 years. I met second language English speakers who had a much better grasp of grammar, punctuation and the rules of English language than the average native speaker. However, there were ALWAYS idioms and cultural references/ norms that almost all British people would know that second language speakers wouldn’t. And to compare the most elite of second language learners to English people who most likely have learning difficulties (you know it’s possible to “excel” even with a LD, right?) was ridiculous.

inamarina · 19/12/2025 11:31

u3ername · 19/12/2025 10:09

Yeah, I don’t think it’s the accent. My initial
thought was preferring less ‘emancipated’ women, brought up to be more submissive to a man, etc, but probably it’s not that if dating Norwegian, etc.

However there’re men on YouTube who preach to other men to not have British/ American gf’s for the reasons above and these videos are very popular.

But people used to have preferences before YouTube and social media?
I remember over twenty years ago several female uni friends saying they wanted to meet a guy from a particular background, like the UK or Spain.

Salvadoridory · 19/12/2025 11:34

Chantzaba · 19/12/2025 09:00

What have the Scottish engineers had?

Normal relationships usually

godmum56 · 19/12/2025 11:37

T1Dmama · 19/12/2025 02:53

I have a friend who like Asian women… they are apparently
mire submissive and eager to please…
western women are confident, independent and don’t want to have a partner who they have to ‘mother’….
Anyway I’m guessing since he’s single that his ‘type’ isn’t working out that well for him!!

well said!

Chantzaba · 19/12/2025 11:39

NameChangeElaine · 19/12/2025 10:51

Read my post and the post I was replying to again please; I was only explaining my original comment that the poster took issue with.

  1. You’re wrong, the specific people I was referring to all had the relevant testing and had NO LEARNING DIFFICULTIES; that’s why I specifically worked with them as opposed to another professional who specialised in SEN. As I said, it was an access to education issue as opposed to a capability issue and once given a standard education, they excelled. There is a reason why I clearly said what I said in my post and as I worked in this area, I know what I’m talking about thanks.
  2. The post I was replying to said I HAD NOT met anyone who spoke English as a second language more proficiently than a native speaker so I was explaining that yes I had and why; I stated a fact - which you actually agree with - but that poster said wasn’t true.

As usual, context is everything and if you read my full posts, my comment will make more sense. My whole point is to not assume that because someone speaks English as a second language that they are easier prey than a native speaker.

A native speaker with no learning difficulties is ALWAYS top level proficient. Always. They have an innate fluency that transcends grammar. Even if they say "we was gunna see if you could of borrowed us some money" - thats not a lack of proficiency. Thats just their variety of english.

Didimum · 19/12/2025 11:42

He’s just another shallow twat. Nothing more.

Floatlikeafeather2 · 19/12/2025 11:47

Chantzaba · 19/12/2025 08:14

I think its because HE can feel more exotic and interesting to a non British woman.

I also think, in his immaturity, he believes that telling people (anyone) this, makes them think he's complicated and sophisticated and rather superior to your run of the mill young man. At 27, he really should have grown out of that. However, if he prefers people with foreign accents, that's a preference, not a kink or a fetish. It's not harmful.

NameChangeElaine · 19/12/2025 12:35

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 19/12/2025 11:30

Just to clarify

I taught ESOL for 8 years. I met second language English speakers who had a much better grasp of grammar, punctuation and the rules of English language than the average native speaker. However, there were ALWAYS idioms and cultural references/ norms that almost all British people would know that second language speakers wouldn’t. And to compare the most elite of second language learners to English people who most likely have learning difficulties (you know it’s possible to “excel” even with a LD, right?) was ridiculous.

  1. That’s why I used the word “proficient” - I wasn’t referring to idioms, cultural references or norms (which differ even between native speakers) although someone who has lived here for several years can pick them up by “osmosis” more easily than a native speaker can grammar
  2. I said they excelled with a “standard” education i.e. not one adapted to support learning difficulties, just the education they missed out on the first time. I honestly don’t know why you’re finding it so hard to grasp that someone never learned to read or write because they just never went to school and no one ever taught them, not because they have learning difficulties. You do realise that back in the day parents could deregister their children from school under the guise of homeschooling and then teach them jack shit right? There were no checks and balances (I don’t think it’s much better now).
  3. Yes I know full well those with learning disabilities can excel thanks, I have dyslexia and dyscalculia myself but still managed to get my PhD, several professional qualifications and start a successful business; I am also CELTA qualified but only taught in India for a year so not as experienced as you on that. I have made no comment about anyone who has learning difficulties even though you keep insisting I am; I have said 3 times now that I DID NOT work with adults with learning difficulties, they came to me after it was determined they did not have any as I am not a SEN specialist
  4. I was not comparing them; previous posters have said that maybe OP’s brother preferred women who spoke English as a second language so he’d have the upper hand therefore inferring that he wouldn’t get away with things with native speakers - that is why I said that I know people who speak English as a second language more proficiently than some native speakers - which you agree with - therefore illustrating that might not be the case. The poster disagreed saying that’s never the case so I gave an example. At the end of the day it really doesn’t matter WHY a native speaker might be less proficient than someone who speaks it as a second language for the context of this thread; this isn’t a linguistics thread, it’s about OP’s brother potentially having the upper hand with a “foreigner” compared to a native speaker.
Katiesaidthat · 19/12/2025 12:40

BridgeNewton · 19/12/2025 03:44

I am married to an Asian (far east) lady. If there is a second time around (jury is out on that) I am never, never, dating someone who doesn't have a similar cultural background to me. The lack of reference points is just too vast.

My aunt married the boy next door. Divorced. Different reasons than you mention, but the result is the same.

Snorlaxo · 19/12/2025 12:51

Have you considered the possibility that the women like the fact that your brother isn’t from their country too?

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 19/12/2025 12:51

Chantzaba · 19/12/2025 11:39

A native speaker with no learning difficulties is ALWAYS top level proficient. Always. They have an innate fluency that transcends grammar. Even if they say "we was gunna see if you could of borrowed us some money" - thats not a lack of proficiency. Thats just their variety of english.

Agree.
Plus the ability to understand English being spoken in a huge variety of other accents/ dialects etc.

Waitingfordoggo · 19/12/2025 13:15

NameChangeElaine · 19/12/2025 04:16

Dating is intrinsically discriminatory and people - yourself included most likely - narrow down their dating pool by cutting out whole groups of people based on their own preferences and generalisations.

For example, would you date someone (depending on your age) 25+ years older / younger than yourself? If not, why not? After all, I’m sure there are many different types of people in each age group and we know they’re not all the same; some will be old souls / young souls, share one’s interests, be attractive, have the same goals, be physically fit and healthy etc. Yet people will routinely cut out whole groups based solely on age yet no one feels sorry for them or think they’re prejudiced or shortsighted (most likely because the majority of us have limits on either end so it’s deemed acceptable but that still doesn’t make it any less discriminatory).

Based on this forum, I know some people won’t date those who have kids, are unemployed, aren’t a certain height, have a disability and so on. Do you think they’re being prejudiced or shortsighted? Or do you think they’re just their preferences?

The age gap scenario doesn’t make a great comparison from my perspective. I wouldn’t form a long-term relationship with someone 25 years older than me simply because the likelihood is that they’ll die a long time before I do. Yes, people can die at any age but probability is a thing.

I wouldn’t date someone 25 years younger because I wouldn’t get the chance. 😂 And also because they would be almost the same age as my children which would make me feel like I was being inappropriate. And I don’t think a younger man would want to end up as my carer- nor would I want him to.

So my preference for people around my own age has logical reasoning behind it.

But not all preferences have reasons or explanations- I get that. I have often been attracted to really skinny, geeky men. It’s just appealing to me but then hardly any of my boyfriends have actually fitted that description! So while it was a ‘preference’ of sorts, it certainly didn’t mean that was the only ‘type’ I would find attractive and date- far from it.

brunettemic · 19/12/2025 13:18

Maybe he reads what all the British women wrote on MN?

Misscoffee · 19/12/2025 13:40

My sister said she wouldn't date a brit again.
We are brits born and raised.
She has been with her current partner 6 years now.
He's from Romania and he's lovely.
We all have a preference.

I however dont date but I've sleep with a few men from different cultures.
Just fun to me nothing serious.
Some people are just not attractive to others.

Misscoffee · 19/12/2025 13:41

brunettemic · 19/12/2025 13:18

Maybe he reads what all the British women wrote on MN?

So true.

Catullus5 · 19/12/2025 13:48

brunettemic · 19/12/2025 13:18

Maybe he reads what all the British women wrote on MN?

Brilliant!!!

jewelfantasy · 19/12/2025 13:50

brunettemic · 19/12/2025 13:18

Maybe he reads what all the British women wrote on MN?

🤣

CatsKoalasBunnies123 · 19/12/2025 14:04

Dating is by definition discriminatory. I've rejected men for all kinds of "mean" and immature reasons.

Ungulanta · 19/12/2025 14:15

Aimtodobetter · 19/12/2025 06:15

Sadly my guess is this is not about a look he likes (given British girls look all kinds of ways) and more about the fact that he perceives British/American/Canadian/Australian girls to be too “independent” and expects with a girl from a different less “independent” country that he may get the gender dynamic he wants in his relationships. Of course, if that’s what’s motivating he’s an idiot on many levels but not your responsibility to fix…

Don't think this applies to Norwegians, or Italians and Argentinians either tbh

Aimtodobetter · 19/12/2025 14:22

Ungulanta · 19/12/2025 14:15

Don't think this applies to Norwegians, or Italians and Argentinians either tbh

I agree - one of the many reasons he is an idiot - but as I understand it it is the English speaking nations that gets seen as particularly bad for feminism in the wonderful manosphere. For everyone who does think this is the reason - what’s the alternative that makes sense - clearly it can’t be about physical type given the range of ethnicities in those four countries, and if it was just about someone who had travelled to another country why exclude Americans/australians/Canadians.

SunnySideDeepDown · 19/12/2025 14:52

Glambow · 19/12/2025 09:11

I’d say he is conventionally attractive yes. He is sporty and ludicrously tall (6’4). He’s a lovely guy in my opinion I just felt his “absolutely no British girls, I haven’t even been on a date with a British girl since 2019” was very dramatic! It all started as we were talking about how he met his current girlfriend and I joked he must be hanging around embassies a lot as they are never British.

I think it’s pretty well acknowledged that some countries produce more conventionally attractive people. British women (myself included) aren’t up there in my opinion so I can see why your brother, being attractive, has chosen to go for other nationalities.

That’s ok, it’s his life, his choice.

user362905 · 19/12/2025 14:57

SunnySideDeepDown · 19/12/2025 14:52

I think it’s pretty well acknowledged that some countries produce more conventionally attractive people. British women (myself included) aren’t up there in my opinion so I can see why your brother, being attractive, has chosen to go for other nationalities.

That’s ok, it’s his life, his choice.

I agree with this too. Whenever I go on holiday I am always struck by the quite startling difference between Brits and other nationalities. I love the UK but we are certainly not the most attractive nation of people 🤣

hurtsworse · 19/12/2025 15:03

Lucky British Girls!!!!

Sartre · 19/12/2025 15:29

It sounds like an immature view. I knew someone like this in secondary school, she said she could only ever date east Asian men but not like British Asian, they actually had to be from that region of the world. It’s the sort of naive view that’s acceptable at that age but at 27 it’s a bit infantile.