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Why do men hate women so much?

494 replies

growingsideway · 18/12/2025 17:18

I’m on the larger side, a size 18. Walking back from work with my headphones in and on my phone and a guy leans out of his car window (passenger side) in slow moving traffic, barks at me like a dog and calls me a fat bitch. Him and his mates in the car then crack up at it and find themselves absolutely hilarious as they’re crawling along next to me.

I know it’s silly to be so upset by it because it’s such a silly thing for them to do, but they took me by surprise and gave me a fright and I just don’t get it. Why are men like this?

OP posts:
Jom222 · 18/12/2025 19:22

rwalker · 18/12/2025 17:25

I don’t think it’s gender specific there’s vile women as well as men

thinking back on my 50+ years on earth, I've had males cat call me when I was slim and pretty, scream fatass out car windows when I gained a little weight, called ugly etc etc

But NEVER has a girl or woman screamed an obscene or insulting comment at me as I was living my life in the world. Funny isn't it.

Yes some women are vile but as a rule they don't engage in this belittling behavior.

Isayitasitis · 18/12/2025 19:23

Boomer55 · 18/12/2025 18:10

I’ve never been abused or hated by males. Perhaps it’s subjective or who you allow into your life. . 🤷‍♀️

What a male apologist you are!

5128gap · 18/12/2025 19:27

Sexentric · 18/12/2025 19:13

Jesus. So its ok to minimise my experience of a woman driving like a nutter, almost hitting me and the. Getting out the car and shouting abuse in my face because she was a woman and so must have had a good reason? Nice.

If you want empathy for your experience with an unpleasant woman, then perhaps start your own thread about it? This is the OPs thread about her experience with men and her trying to make sense of this behaviour. Because she is feeling bad about HERSELF because of what men have done to her. Women are trying to support her to understand that this is a pattern of male behaviour and not personal.
By bringing your experience with a woman into it, you are minimising what happened to the OP and interrupting her getting support by diverting attention to yourself and to 'bad women'.

penguinpalace · 18/12/2025 19:27

I used to work in a pub and I’d see lots of those lovely, respectful husbands and fathers whose lovely wives, mothers and daughters would put them in the ‘not all men’ group.
If only they saw them in male company when the weren’t there.

growingsideway · 18/12/2025 19:27

Sexentric · 18/12/2025 19:13

Jesus. So its ok to minimise my experience of a woman driving like a nutter, almost hitting me and the. Getting out the car and shouting abuse in my face because she was a woman and so must have had a good reason? Nice.

Nobody’s minimising it. What we’re saying is she likely didn’t do it for fun, like men seem to.

OP posts:
ClaredeBear · 18/12/2025 19:27

I am so sorry this happened to you. Some men grow up with terrible role models, then flock together and never grow up. I absolutely promise you that my husband and his friends would never in a million years do this and if he found out the had, he would drop them immediately. I know this won’t help the way you’re feeling right now and I’m sorry about that. It’s the thing isn’t it…it’s not all men, but it’s always men.

Zov · 18/12/2025 19:28

174ghxt · 18/12/2025 17:45

The majority of victims of violence are men.

AND IT IS MEN ATTACKING THESE MEN!

🙄

canuckup · 18/12/2025 19:29

Just to say, this does not happen in other countries

It is very particular to the UK

hattie43 · 18/12/2025 19:30

Some men are totally inadequate at life and resent women doing life better . A lot of women prefer to be single than settle and we earn our own money . Men aren’t needed anymore .

AluckyEllie · 18/12/2025 19:30

I always think there is a certain type of man who is just utterly infuriated that the world isn’t like it was 80 years ago. When men were ‘protectors and providers’ and worshipped at home, that was all that was expected of them. Marital rape wasn’t a thing. Domestic violence wasn’t talked about. They like the thought of that sort of power.

Bleachedjeans · 18/12/2025 19:30

Yourlifeinyourhands · 18/12/2025 17:23

some men I think you mean.

🙄

charcoalandsugar · 18/12/2025 19:31

canuckup · 18/12/2025 19:29

Just to say, this does not happen in other countries

It is very particular to the UK

it absolutely does happen in other countries

Kimura · 18/12/2025 19:31

TheIceBear · 18/12/2025 18:57

Horrific behaviour probably to make them feel good about themselves. A size 18 is probably average size these days. They do this type of thing to make themselves feel powerful but they probably have extremely fragile egos under it all. And let’s be honest any self respecting woman wouldn’t touch off a man who behaves like this..

They do this type of thing to make themselves feel powerful but they probably have extremely fragile egos

There's definitely a classic cowardice/bullying element to it. These idiots will just as often shout things gay-presenting men, younger lads, alternative looking men etc because they know there's little to no risk/comeback.

They'll shout at a woman/gay couple from a moving car, but they're not walking up to a table of rugby lads and behaving that way.

Naunet · 18/12/2025 19:31

canuckup · 18/12/2025 19:29

Just to say, this does not happen in other countries

It is very particular to the UK

You think men in other countries don't harass and insult random women?!

CurlewKate · 18/12/2025 19:32

Sexentric · 18/12/2025 19:13

Jesus. So its ok to minimise my experience of a woman driving like a nutter, almost hitting me and the. Getting out the car and shouting abuse in my face because she was a woman and so must have had a good reason? Nice.

Something specific in her life. Nothing to do with you-and for you of course the consequences were the same, and horrible. But there is something in men that makes them single out women as targets. Any woman. I suspect your attacker would have been equally vile to you if you had been a man.

shhblackbag · 18/12/2025 19:32

Generally, I think they hate women because we don't need them anymore. Especially those of us who don't want children.

charcoalandsugar · 18/12/2025 19:32

AluckyEllie · 18/12/2025 19:30

I always think there is a certain type of man who is just utterly infuriated that the world isn’t like it was 80 years ago. When men were ‘protectors and providers’ and worshipped at home, that was all that was expected of them. Marital rape wasn’t a thing. Domestic violence wasn’t talked about. They like the thought of that sort of power.

The same men doing the same things except it’s not socially acceptable with women any more….except for the women on this thread saying not all men...

charcoalandsugar · 18/12/2025 19:33

shhblackbag · 18/12/2025 19:32

Generally, I think they hate women because we don't need them anymore. Especially those of us who don't want children.

They’ve always behaved like this

labamba18 · 18/12/2025 19:35

Many men only love other men. They want to impress them, make them laugh, fit in. It’s very sad really. They are just little sheep. It wasn’t about you OP, it was about a little boy trying to impress his friends. They are beneath you.

charcoalandsugar · 18/12/2025 19:36

It’s all about power and gratification.

Bottlesofrumonthewall · 18/12/2025 19:36

Because they are full of themselves

HoneyParsnipSoup · 18/12/2025 19:37

penguinpalace · 18/12/2025 19:27

I used to work in a pub and I’d see lots of those lovely, respectful husbands and fathers whose lovely wives, mothers and daughters would put them in the ‘not all men’ group.
If only they saw them in male company when the weren’t there.

Truly a lot of these stories are just awful, and so cruel.

I honestly think it all stems from the fact they’re more physically able than us, we are no threat to them, and without a threat they can do as they wish with no real repercussions. And as the only threat to them is from other men they will do whatever makes them the ‘alpha’ which means showing dominance over whoever they can by whatever means.

landlordhell · 18/12/2025 19:38

SOME men for sure are utter twats. Sorry you had that experience. I do worry for my young adult DDs. I am lucky to have been married to a really good man for 30 years and to be the daughter of a really good man and to have a really good man for my brother. There are lots of good men, they just don’t yell at you from cars.

Kimura · 18/12/2025 19:38

AluckyEllie · 18/12/2025 19:30

I always think there is a certain type of man who is just utterly infuriated that the world isn’t like it was 80 years ago. When men were ‘protectors and providers’ and worshipped at home, that was all that was expected of them. Marital rape wasn’t a thing. Domestic violence wasn’t talked about. They like the thought of that sort of power.

Which is super odd when you actually think about it, because none of them actually experienced what life was like 'back then'. It's just a fantasy of how they think things were.

Starconundrum · 18/12/2025 19:39

Kimura · 18/12/2025 19:21

I don't think that's a fair yardstick. He wasn't approaching regular people in the pub or online.

The men he contacted were all members of an extremely niche, private corner of an underground fetish forum for scumbags with a specific interest in discussing/carrying out this particular kind of abuse.

Why would they report it?

This isn't true. He approached most men he came in contact with, which is why so many were concentrated around the area he lived in.

Every shop owner in the village.

Unless you're saying that at least 50% of men frequent these sites. In which case my point still stands. It's still 50% of men which is grossly unacceptable.