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Why do men hate women so much?

494 replies

growingsideway · 18/12/2025 17:18

I’m on the larger side, a size 18. Walking back from work with my headphones in and on my phone and a guy leans out of his car window (passenger side) in slow moving traffic, barks at me like a dog and calls me a fat bitch. Him and his mates in the car then crack up at it and find themselves absolutely hilarious as they’re crawling along next to me.

I know it’s silly to be so upset by it because it’s such a silly thing for them to do, but they took me by surprise and gave me a fright and I just don’t get it. Why are men like this?

OP posts:
growingsideway · 18/12/2025 18:55

Starconundrum · 18/12/2025 18:08

Most women don't come forward if they are being abused by men.

Mostly because of the environment created by other men who make them believe they’re “weak” for expressing emotion

OP posts:
TheIceBear · 18/12/2025 18:57

Horrific behaviour probably to make them feel good about themselves. A size 18 is probably average size these days. They do this type of thing to make themselves feel powerful but they probably have extremely fragile egos under it all. And let’s be honest any self respecting woman wouldn’t touch off a man who behaves like this..

Clychaugog · 18/12/2025 18:59

Momtotwokids · 18/12/2025 17:54

I find on this site most women hate men.

Not all women.
Some women are victims too.
My wife doesn't hate men.
Blah blah blah 😄🙄

PithyTaupeWriter · 18/12/2025 19:00

I've been called fat and ugly by pathetic little excuses for men, and I have a BMI of 18, and have been told over the years that I am conventionally attractive. It's the go-to insult they use just to feel better about themselves. My reply is always along the lines of asking them if saying things like that makes them feel better about their mushroom dicks.

Girliefriendlikespuppies · 18/12/2025 19:01

I read on mn years ago that men get angry by women they don’t want to have sex with, I think that’s true 🤷‍♀️

A lot of men really only consider women as something for men to have sex with and therefore completely pointless if not desirable.

It’s depressing but misogyny is everywhere.

5128gap · 18/12/2025 19:01

Misscoffee · 18/12/2025 18:04

You do know most men dont come forward if they are being abused by women.

They wouldn't need to. We've got eyes and ears. If cars full of women were abusing men on the street we'd have noticed.

Firefly1987 · 18/12/2025 19:01

One of my dad's friends kept in touch with my mum after my dad died and for some unknown reason he decided to tell her about what him and his friends (not my dad as he didn't know him then) used to do. Apparently they used to go to gay clubs, lure a guy out and then beat him up...just for a laugh. I wonder if finally at the grand old age of 80 he was looking back and feeling guilty and decided to confess to someone about the sort of evil shit he used to do as a young man. I remember my mum telling us what he'd said and my brother was like "meh" and I was surprised at his reaction back then. Now I know he has little empathy.

Men in general (especially young men) just have very low emotional intelligence.

TheWater · 18/12/2025 19:02

growingsideway · 18/12/2025 17:30

It’s just made me feel horrible about myself. I know that’s silly but it really has.

Please OP do not let them make you feel like this.

They are stupid idiots who belittle others to make them feel better about their sad, pathetic little lives.

I was on a hen weekend many, many years ago and at the bar with another woman whom I had just met. An older man came up to us and started complimenting my companion on how beautiful she was, comparing her to a famous woman who was making headlines at the time. She tried to ignore him but he persisted. Then he looked at me and told me how ugly I was, telling me I looked like an unattractive but still famous character from a soap. It hurt me so badly at the time—brought back every negative comment that had ever been made about my appearance and dented my confidence for years. I really wish I hadn’t let it, but I did. Now I look back and can’t imagine why I gave a shit what that pond scum thought about my face. Anyone rude enough to say something unkind to someone just for the hell of it is a very sad and damaged individual and I feel sorry for them.

Those pricks are not worth a single thought from you. You are so far above them. Be proud of who you are and love yourself.

TheIceBear · 18/12/2025 19:02

Boomer55 · 18/12/2025 18:10

I’ve never been abused or hated by males. Perhaps it’s subjective or who you allow into your life. . 🤷‍♀️

Yeh because innocently walking down the street is “allowing someone into your life”

TheeNotoriousPIG · 18/12/2025 19:04

If I was brave enough, I'd try to pluck up the courage and ask my manager, who is notorious for hating women! (Especially ones like me, who complain about his behaviour to the point that he gets a ticking-off by his FEMALE manager).

I think that sometimes some men feel like they are the dominant ones, and that women are, in effect, second-class citizens or 'inferior'. Throw in toxic masculinity, and the nasty one who shouted at you being in company, it probably makes them feel better by putting someone else down and stamping all over their confidence. Although I was brought up to "ignore and don't make a fuss", I would probably have dropped to their level and given them some abuse back... just to show him that he is not invincible, and maybe his friends might have given him a ribbing for picking on the wrong woman.

Didimum · 18/12/2025 19:08

This doesn’t have anything to do with your size, OP. I was out running once and a man rolled down his window, spat at me and called me a fat cunt. I am size 10 and 5ft 2. So yeah. Bastards.

charcoalandsugar · 18/12/2025 19:08

rwalker · 18/12/2025 17:25

I don’t think it’s gender specific there’s vile women as well as men

1 in 4 women will be sexually assaulted or raped in their life time by a man.
One woman or girl is killed every 10 mins by their intimate male partner globally

But you carry on about women being the same. Apologist!

theunbreakablecleopatrajones · 18/12/2025 19:09

rwalker · 18/12/2025 17:25

I don’t think it’s gender specific there’s vile women as well as men

Unpleasantness isn't gender specific but calling someone a fat bitch out of the side of a van really does seem to be doesn't it. Some men do like to assert their dominance over women by belittling and humiliating them sexually. That does seem to be a mostly male sport.

Obvs not all men, but misogyny runs deep in our society, we're so used to swimming in it, we often don't even see it.

I don't know who said that men fear women because they might laugh at them and women fear men because they might kill then, but they sure did have a point.

theunbreakablecleopatrajones · 18/12/2025 19:10

Didimum · 18/12/2025 19:08

This doesn’t have anything to do with your size, OP. I was out running once and a man rolled down his window, spat at me and called me a fat cunt. I am size 10 and 5ft 2. So yeah. Bastards.

You are absolutely right it's not size specific, but if you are a fat woman I found you did get it more (having been fat and thin).

Tulipsriver · 18/12/2025 19:11

That sounds horrible and I really hope you're not too shaken up.

I don't think men have the monopoly on being horrible though. I've never experienced anything like you describe from men but have had a few wtf experiences from rude women 🤷‍♀️ (my favourite was a group of drunk women threatening to beat me up and filming me in a bar's toilets because "they could tell I was judging them"... I wasn't until they started verbally abusing me).

Didimum · 18/12/2025 19:11

Boomer55 · 18/12/2025 18:10

I’ve never been abused or hated by males. Perhaps it’s subjective or who you allow into your life. . 🤷‍♀️

Excuse me?

Walking down the street and being called a ‘fat bitch’ is ‘subjective’ and ‘allowing someone into your life’?

Just honestly shut up.

HoneyParsnipSoup · 18/12/2025 19:11

IMO it’s not hate, it’s contempt.

charcoalandsugar · 18/12/2025 19:11

Momtotwokids · 18/12/2025 17:54

I find on this site most women hate men.

1 in 4 women will be sexually assaulted or raped in their life time by a man.
One woman or girl is killed every 10 mins by their intimate male partner globally
But you carry on about women being the same. Apologist!

Sexentric · 18/12/2025 19:13

Rightsraptor · 18/12/2025 18:33

Yes, and that's the point here: that men just do it because they think it's fun or they want to impress their mates (!) or some other insane and inane reason only known to them. Women will be abusive as a result of something specific.

Jesus. So its ok to minimise my experience of a woman driving like a nutter, almost hitting me and the. Getting out the car and shouting abuse in my face because she was a woman and so must have had a good reason? Nice.

charcoalandsugar · 18/12/2025 19:14

Misscoffee · 18/12/2025 18:02

I fear women some are utter cxnts is not just men nowdays its both.
Mumsnet is cest pit of women bulling other women.
Even in public ive had the run ins with women.

1 in 4 women will be sexually assaulted or raped in their life time by a man.
One woman or girl is killed every 10 mins by their intimate male partner globally
But you carry on about women being the same.

TheIceBear · 18/12/2025 19:14

rwalker · 18/12/2025 17:25

I don’t think it’s gender specific there’s vile women as well as men

There are vile women out there , that much is certain. But I’ve never had women shout things out in public about my appearance. Or witnessed that happen to anyone else . It’s always men.

Naunet · 18/12/2025 19:14

rwalker · 18/12/2025 17:25

I don’t think it’s gender specific there’s vile women as well as men

I don't think
You could have left it there.

safetyfreak · 18/12/2025 19:15

Once, a group of young men in a car threw mud at the back of my head. They must have planned to throw it at someone, and I was the chosen target.

Another occasion in my teens, I walked past a group of young guys, and one said out loud how ugly I was.

Both of those incidents made me feel horrible about myself, but it says more about them than it does about me.

Kimura · 18/12/2025 19:21

Starconundrum · 18/12/2025 18:28

It was the pelicot case that convinced me it's most men.

50 men were convicted of of raping her. Dominique had messaged thousands of men inviting them to. Or suggesting ways to do it to other women. It wasnt just that so many men had said yes, it was that not one single man had reported that they had been approached. Not a whisper from any of them.

The police discovered the evidence when they investigated Dominique pelicot in an unrelated case.

Not one single man out of thousands stood up for Gisele pelicot.

Not one single man.

I don't think that's a fair yardstick. He wasn't approaching regular people in the pub or online.

The men he contacted were all members of an extremely niche, private corner of an underground fetish forum for scumbags with a specific interest in discussing/carrying out this particular kind of abuse.

Why would they report it?

CurlewKate · 18/12/2025 19:21

I’ve often asked on here for examples of the famous Mumsnet hatred of men. It almost always comes down to disagreeing with men or refusing to enable men. There is nothing some women dislike more than women who won’t enable men. It tends to shine an unflattering light on their own relationships.

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