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“Birthing parent” language in work policy – inclusive or erasing women?

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InvisibleBumble · 17/12/2025 20:25

Our workplace has just emailed all staff about changes to parental leave. Throughout the email they repeatedly use the term “the birthing parent”. There is no mention anywhere of women, mothers or maternity leave.

I’m honestly really uncomfortable with it. In trying to be “inclusive”, it feels like women - and our lived experience of pregnancy, childbirth and recovery - are being erased from a policy that is specifically about leave after giving birth.

I’m not anti-inclusion, but I do struggle with language that refuses to even acknowledge women or mothers in this context. Childbirth is not a neutral experience, and maternity leave exists for a reason.

It’s really bugged me, but I’m nervous about pushing back at work in case I’m labelled difficult or “not inclusive enough”.

Am I being unreasonable? Has anyone challenged this kind of language at work, and if so, how did it go?

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BellissimoGecko · 18/12/2025 07:45

justpassmethemouse · 17/12/2025 21:23

Inclusive language by definition doesn’t exclude anyone. I’m sure there are other things to worry about 😊

Women - sorry, uterus havers - stop worrying about silly little things like the erasure of womanhood, sacrificed at the altar of ‘inclusivity’… 🙄🙄🙄

☺️

Hoardasurass · 18/12/2025 07:47

justpassmethemouse · 18/12/2025 00:13

Actually this is an interesting point. All birth mothers are birthing parents. But not all birthing parents are birth mothers.

Again wrong any woman who gives birth is automatically a mother even surrogate mothers are still legally the mother and a judge has to agree to the removal of her rights and responsibilities to grant them to another person.

Please look at the law and how its written not at the interpretation of it by stonewall et al

Kpo58 · 18/12/2025 07:51

Isn't this exactly why mail merge was invented? If you are female and identity as female, the letter should say birth mother and if you are female but identity as anything else, it can say birth parent.

HappyMummaOfOne · 18/12/2025 08:12

I actually had this come up last year a month before I was due to go on maternity leave (so was already quite hormonal) and without thinking I fired off an email saying how I was deeply offended, I was NOT a birthing parent, I was NOT going on parental leave and I felt by removing the words of Women, Mother or maternity leave they were EXCLUDING ME from their policy and wording. I stated that as a women I have no problem with being inclusive of others but I did object to having my identity deleted for the sake of one or two people who would NEVER need to use this policy as they physically can not give birth to a child! (Yes before you all jump down my throat I understand that there are transgender men who could give birth but in my hormonal state I was just trying to point out that I was unhappy with the use of female language being erased).

Anyway, I started panicking after sending the email and wondering I was going to be pulled into a meeting and told off or worse. Instead the next day I received a response from HR apologising that they had offended me and that they had never meant to erase female language or minimise the experience that women went through in childbirth. They said they had reviewed the policy and would be reverting back to the “original” wording 😂

One small win but I was happy to take it. I have NO problem with people living their best life and being whoever they want to be. I do however have a problem with having my identity ignored/removed under the pretence of inclusivity.

AnotherEmma · 18/12/2025 08:17

HappyMummaOfOne · 18/12/2025 08:12

I actually had this come up last year a month before I was due to go on maternity leave (so was already quite hormonal) and without thinking I fired off an email saying how I was deeply offended, I was NOT a birthing parent, I was NOT going on parental leave and I felt by removing the words of Women, Mother or maternity leave they were EXCLUDING ME from their policy and wording. I stated that as a women I have no problem with being inclusive of others but I did object to having my identity deleted for the sake of one or two people who would NEVER need to use this policy as they physically can not give birth to a child! (Yes before you all jump down my throat I understand that there are transgender men who could give birth but in my hormonal state I was just trying to point out that I was unhappy with the use of female language being erased).

Anyway, I started panicking after sending the email and wondering I was going to be pulled into a meeting and told off or worse. Instead the next day I received a response from HR apologising that they had offended me and that they had never meant to erase female language or minimise the experience that women went through in childbirth. They said they had reviewed the policy and would be reverting back to the “original” wording 😂

One small win but I was happy to take it. I have NO problem with people living their best life and being whoever they want to be. I do however have a problem with having my identity ignored/removed under the pretence of inclusivity.

Well done you!

Alpinette · 18/12/2025 08:26

justpassmethemouse · 18/12/2025 00:13

Actually this is an interesting point. All birth mothers are birthing parents. But not all birthing parents are birth mothers.

In what way is someone who gives birth not a mother? I find being cooerced into someone else’s delusion deeply offensive. It’s as offensive as ‘cis’

Owly11 · 18/12/2025 08:35

MCF86 · 17/12/2025 21:42

It doesn't deny that women give birth, and it doesn't stop me being a woman that gave birth. I really don't see why I should be upset ot uncomfortable with the policy wording. It includes me and any body else that's given birth 🤷🏼‍♀️

Only women can give birth.

lifeturnsonadime · 18/12/2025 08:38

It's all a load of nonsense anyway.

Freddie McConnell is a woman who identifies as a trans man who brought a legal challenge on this point. The court found that even though Freddie has a GRC so is legally a man, that the status of mother is protected.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49828705

So every woman who gives birth, regardless of how they identify is legally the baby's mother.

Freddy McConnell

'Seahorse' transgender man loses challenge to be named father

A court rules Freddy McConnell, who gave birth to a child, must be named "mother" on a birth certificate.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49828705

lifeturnsonadime · 18/12/2025 08:41

Regardless of your views on gender, it is the child who should be centred not the identity of the parent,

It beggars belief that someone who claims to 'live as a man' goes on to do something that only women can do.

Mulledvino · 18/12/2025 08:54

InvisibleBumble · 17/12/2025 22:28

This is just it ... It is the erasure of women specific language and the unique differences we go through being pregnant, giving birth and being mothers.

Even for lesbian couples there is still one biological mother who is pregnant and going through labour. It wouldn't be hard to use the word maternal or woman.

This is a great example why birthing is always an important part of it
My wife is the biological mother of our child, but she did not birth them. Biological doesn't equal birthing. They aren't always the same people and wording like yours is what they seek to avoid

Historically some of the vagueness meant that in two woman relationships you could both get mat leave, companies wised up to this and made it more focused on birth

UneAnneeSansLumiere · 18/12/2025 09:01

Whistonia · 17/12/2025 22:55

Well so does birthing parent and it is more inclusive so can’t really see why it is anything to be concerned about.

How is 'birthing parent' more inclusive!? All this obfuscation and messing about with language has erased critical thinking facilities. None of this has ANYTHING to do with lesbian couples. Please engage your brain.

UneAnneeSansLumiere · 18/12/2025 09:03

lifeturnsonadime · 18/12/2025 08:38

It's all a load of nonsense anyway.

Freddie McConnell is a woman who identifies as a trans man who brought a legal challenge on this point. The court found that even though Freddie has a GRC so is legally a man, that the status of mother is protected.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49828705

So every woman who gives birth, regardless of how they identify is legally the baby's mother.

Of course Freddie is the mother! I hope that we see an end to this insanity in the next few years.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 18/12/2025 09:17

dementedpixie · 17/12/2025 21:28

Only women give birth so the 'birthing parent' is the mother, so why not just say that

Because Stonewall has induced them to shell out a lot of money for their ‘education’ in such matters?

Whistonia · 18/12/2025 09:30

UneAnneeSansLumiere · 18/12/2025 09:01

How is 'birthing parent' more inclusive!? All this obfuscation and messing about with language has erased critical thinking facilities. None of this has ANYTHING to do with lesbian couples. Please engage your brain.

How rude

MummytoBoth · 18/12/2025 12:50

I work for the NHS and they use “ people with a uterus”!Really bugs me because they don’t say people with a penis when describing a male!

YourBreezyBiscuit · 18/12/2025 12:57

Hoardasurass · 17/12/2025 22:21

Wrong its the thin end of the wedge, it goes with cervix havers, chest feeders, menstrators and people who bleed amongst a few such disgusting terms. It opens the door to men feeding chemically induced man secretions to babies and surrogacy etc it strips women of everything that makes us women by divorcing them and us from our words and language and most importantly our humanity

Even if that were true, you still have not been dehumanised by being referred to as your child's parent.

YourBreezyBiscuit · 18/12/2025 12:59

wiffin · 17/12/2025 22:23

If'birthing parent' is meant to be inclusive, it failed. It excludes me. I don't identify as a birthing parent. I am a mother, and I took maternity leave.

It doesn't exclude you.

You are innately included because you are a parent and have given birth. You just don't like it, which is different.

You can't identify out of the fact you are a parent and that you gave birth to your child.

InvisibleBumble · 18/12/2025 13:09

HappyMummaOfOne · 18/12/2025 08:12

I actually had this come up last year a month before I was due to go on maternity leave (so was already quite hormonal) and without thinking I fired off an email saying how I was deeply offended, I was NOT a birthing parent, I was NOT going on parental leave and I felt by removing the words of Women, Mother or maternity leave they were EXCLUDING ME from their policy and wording. I stated that as a women I have no problem with being inclusive of others but I did object to having my identity deleted for the sake of one or two people who would NEVER need to use this policy as they physically can not give birth to a child! (Yes before you all jump down my throat I understand that there are transgender men who could give birth but in my hormonal state I was just trying to point out that I was unhappy with the use of female language being erased).

Anyway, I started panicking after sending the email and wondering I was going to be pulled into a meeting and told off or worse. Instead the next day I received a response from HR apologising that they had offended me and that they had never meant to erase female language or minimise the experience that women went through in childbirth. They said they had reviewed the policy and would be reverting back to the “original” wording 😂

One small win but I was happy to take it. I have NO problem with people living their best life and being whoever they want to be. I do however have a problem with having my identity ignored/removed under the pretence of inclusivity.

Well done for standing up for it!

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InvisibleBumble · 18/12/2025 13:10

Hoardasurass · 18/12/2025 07:43

Again wrong the word mother ie woman who gave birth comes with legal responsibility to do the feeding and caring for the child or find a suitable person to do so. So its not irrelevant infact its very relevant and giving birth is not the pertinent part of it as the women's MATERNITY and PREGNANCY rights kick in the moment she gets pregnant hence why birthing parent is nonsense and obviscates the rights of pregnant women

This is really interesting and a good point to go back on. Especially here in the UK we have rights to time off for pregnancy care etc.

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IkaBaar · 18/12/2025 14:08

Is the language inclusive? Is it inclusive of adoptive mothers? Inclusive of people who struggle with English or reading? Inclusive of women who disagree with erasure of words such as women, mother or maternity?

My preference would be using the clear commonly used terms such as maternity leave etc. which are defined in law. You can also have a statement about recognising not everyone identifies with these terms and how the document applies to lesbian mothers.

RitaFromThePitCanteen · 18/12/2025 14:25

I'm not very informed on what's been happening with gender and trans issues. I probably should read up on it more. However from what I have seen, there has never been an instance of the word man being removed or deemed offensive, right? I've only ever seen woman or mother being removed in case it upsets someone.

If being known as a birthing parent is very important to some people, I don't see why the guidance can't encapsulate everyone and say "mothers or birthing parents" or something along those lines.

Do trans people even really feel this way? If I was trans, I think I'd be offended at the idea that I can't bear the idea of female words existing.

charcoalandsugar · 18/12/2025 14:38

justpassmethemouse · 17/12/2025 21:23

Inclusive language by definition doesn’t exclude anyone. I’m sure there are other things to worry about 😊

I think language is important.

It’s like saying 'fastest running animal' instead of ‘cheetah' whenever referring to a cheetah. We can’t erase the word cheetah to describe a cheetah because some cheetahs identify as pandas.

SophiaSW1 · 18/12/2025 14:41

Such nonsense. Only women give birth.

justpassmethemouse · 18/12/2025 14:41

charcoalandsugar · 18/12/2025 14:38

I think language is important.

It’s like saying 'fastest running animal' instead of ‘cheetah' whenever referring to a cheetah. We can’t erase the word cheetah to describe a cheetah because some cheetahs identify as pandas.

The equivalent would be us saying “savannah animals” instead of cheetahs, and this wouldn’t erase the existence of cheetahs - regardless of what animal they identify as, cheetahs or otherwise - to use your example.

crossstitchingnana · 18/12/2025 14:49

I think birthing parent is absolutely fine. What if it was a lesbian couple? Mother may exclude the non-birthing mother.

Birthing parent is to the point and inclusive. I say we should pick our battles, this is a non-starter.