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“Birthing parent” language in work policy – inclusive or erasing women?

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InvisibleBumble · 17/12/2025 20:25

Our workplace has just emailed all staff about changes to parental leave. Throughout the email they repeatedly use the term “the birthing parent”. There is no mention anywhere of women, mothers or maternity leave.

I’m honestly really uncomfortable with it. In trying to be “inclusive”, it feels like women - and our lived experience of pregnancy, childbirth and recovery - are being erased from a policy that is specifically about leave after giving birth.

I’m not anti-inclusion, but I do struggle with language that refuses to even acknowledge women or mothers in this context. Childbirth is not a neutral experience, and maternity leave exists for a reason.

It’s really bugged me, but I’m nervous about pushing back at work in case I’m labelled difficult or “not inclusive enough”.

Am I being unreasonable? Has anyone challenged this kind of language at work, and if so, how did it go?

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Adeline767 · 17/12/2025 22:01

I work in a male dominated government sector and they have recently got rid of “paternity leave”. It is now called “Maternity Support Leave” which I suppose covers most basis’. But it’s pretty awkward when men request advice on paternity leave.

Minjou · 17/12/2025 22:01

MissMountshafft · 17/12/2025 21:53

You’d be surprised how many trans men do give birth - when they have physical changes but just left the reproductive bottom - don’t know how to say it!

Transmen are women. Those that give birth are mothers.

Minjou · 17/12/2025 22:02

ThatsVertigo · 17/12/2025 21:52

I never said lesbians weren't women! The language of 'birthing parent' serves them to distinguish that one of the women births and one does not. Others have pointed this out already so I didn't think it needed explaining.

Birth mother would distinguish that perfectly well, wouldn't it?

YourBreezyBiscuit · 17/12/2025 22:03

Hoardasurass · 17/12/2025 21:49

Everyone who has ever given birth are female and they are mothers, no man has ever given birth nor will one. So how about we use the correct words instead of dehumanising women to pander to some fringe belief system

You can't seriously be claiming that being called a parent is dehumanising

EsmeSusanOgg · 17/12/2025 22:04

Just FYI - Birthing parent is often used to differentiate which mum is pregnant in same-sex relationships.

Hoardasurass · 17/12/2025 22:05

YourBreezyBiscuit · 17/12/2025 22:03

You can't seriously be claiming that being called a parent is dehumanising

No but being called a birthing parent instead of a mother is

Portakalkedi · 17/12/2025 22:05

Of course it's wrong, and offensive. If you give birth, you are a woman, no matter what you call yourself. It is the most basic biology. WTF is wrong with people?

MissMountshafft · 17/12/2025 22:06

GovernmentFundedSteak · 17/12/2025 21:56

Wasnt aware that bottoms could reproduce! In fact I'm fairly sure mine wasn't involved at all unless I include shitting myself during labour

Bottom bits not arse

AnotherEmma · 17/12/2025 22:07

"Bottom bits"?!!! Hmm

Do you mean the female reproductive organs, by any chance?!

MissMountshafft · 17/12/2025 22:07

AnotherEmma · 17/12/2025 21:59

So you prefer "birth parent" to "birth mother"? Why? Are you not both mothers?

She’s told you what she thinks

stop trampling on people

MissMountshafft · 17/12/2025 22:08

Minjou · 17/12/2025 22:01

Transmen are women. Those that give birth are mothers.

They’ve had physical changes so no not women

Userxyd · 17/12/2025 22:08

It’s exclusively relevant to trans men - it’s offensive to the 99.99% of women who live as women. It’s an agenda mainly pushed by men who live as women and that ignores the women who push back against it, even though they vastly outnumber these shouty men.
YANBU at all!

Minjou · 17/12/2025 22:09

EsmeSusanOgg · 17/12/2025 22:04

Just FYI - Birthing parent is often used to differentiate which mum is pregnant in same-sex relationships.

We know. But birth mother does that just fine and doesn't erase sex for no good reason.

aneelli · 17/12/2025 22:09

Mine does the same, and calls it caregiver leave 🙄 I still put my status as maternity leave. Like just why, who are we trying to include, men can never give birth, it isn’t in their biology.

Minjou · 17/12/2025 22:10

MissMountshafft · 17/12/2025 22:08

They’ve had physical changes so no not women

What physical changes do you think turns women into men? Particularly when a baby is coming out of their vaginas?

MissMountshafft · 17/12/2025 22:11

Hoardasurass · 17/12/2025 22:05

No but being called a birthing parent instead of a mother is

You will be getting called a mother forever - why are you so worried

there are many women on here saying it’s more inclusive for them in their situations

Ddakji · 17/12/2025 22:12

MissMountshafft · 17/12/2025 21:53

You’d be surprised how many trans men do give birth - when they have physical changes but just left the reproductive bottom - don’t know how to say it!

No one who gives birth is a man. These women are delusional and need help. But they don’t get to steal our words to shore up their delusions.

GovernmentFundedSteak · 17/12/2025 22:12

MissMountshafft · 17/12/2025 22:06

Bottom bits not arse

Which bottom bits? My Feet are at the bottom. Ankles? Calves?

Obviously I know what you mean, but English is my first language, I don't have any learning difficulties and have older relatives that speak in polite euphemisms.
But not everyone does. Clear language matters.

MissMountshafft · 17/12/2025 22:13

AnotherEmma · 17/12/2025 22:07

"Bottom bits"?!!! Hmm

Do you mean the female reproductive organs, by any chance?!

Yes but lost of transgender people when talking about surgery use the words top and bottom surgery

ah yes…but you don’t like inclusion do you

it’s privileged white males who are the problem not other women and trans people

YourBreezyBiscuit · 17/12/2025 22:13

Hoardasurass · 17/12/2025 22:05

No but being called a birthing parent instead of a mother is

Don't be ridiculous. Dehumanising language is used to make a group of people seem less than human, like calling people animals.

The term "parent" is not dehumanising in any way, it does not remove someone's humanity. It actually encompasses ALL humans!

Imonmyway · 17/12/2025 22:13

dementedpixie · 17/12/2025 21:28

Only women give birth so the 'birthing parent' is the mother, so why not just say that

Because there can be 2 mothers?

Ddakji · 17/12/2025 22:13

MissMountshafft · 17/12/2025 22:08

They’ve had physical changes so no not women

There’s no surgery that turns a woman into a man.

Hoardasurass · 17/12/2025 22:14

MissMountshafft · 17/12/2025 22:08

They’ve had physical changes so no not women

Yes still women as proven by the fact that they got pregnant and gave birth and because nobody has ever changed sex.
Also they are still legally MOTHERS even if they havea GRC and will be registered as such on the birth certificate a transman with a GRC went all the way to the supreme Court trying to be registered as her sons father instead of their mother but lost. You can lie on your own records but not on anyone else's and the word mother has specific legal meaning and places legal duties on her

Ddakji · 17/12/2025 22:14

Imonmyway · 17/12/2025 22:13

Because there can be 2 mothers?

Only one birth mother.

Toohardtofindaproperusername · 17/12/2025 22:14

InvisibleBumble · 17/12/2025 20:25

Our workplace has just emailed all staff about changes to parental leave. Throughout the email they repeatedly use the term “the birthing parent”. There is no mention anywhere of women, mothers or maternity leave.

I’m honestly really uncomfortable with it. In trying to be “inclusive”, it feels like women - and our lived experience of pregnancy, childbirth and recovery - are being erased from a policy that is specifically about leave after giving birth.

I’m not anti-inclusion, but I do struggle with language that refuses to even acknowledge women or mothers in this context. Childbirth is not a neutral experience, and maternity leave exists for a reason.

It’s really bugged me, but I’m nervous about pushing back at work in case I’m labelled difficult or “not inclusive enough”.

Am I being unreasonable? Has anyone challenged this kind of language at work, and if so, how did it go?

everyone doing the " this is inclusive language" stuff there's 100s of thousands of women not having a clue what policies, adverts and documents mean. Most people don't think of themselves as a "birthing parent" and neither fo they need to. Inclusive could be women and birthing parent or women and transman or whatever.

Erasing the word woman isn't inclusive .. its misogynistic.

Handmaid's tale is not so futuristic after all

everyone doing the " this is inclusive language" stuff there's 100s of thousands of women not having a clue what policies, adverts and documents mean. Most people don't think of themselves as a "birthing parent" and neither fo they need to. Inclusive could be women and birthing parent or women and transman or whatever.

Erasing the word woman isn't inclusive .. its misogynistic.

Handmaid's tale is not so futuristic after all