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Son dumped by gf -update

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OneGreenPoster · 16/12/2025 17:06

Some posters said I should update with what happened, That thread is now full.
Things have escalated a bit and it looks like he'll have to move a lot sooner.
Not much else to say on the matter.
I didn't think the last thread would get so much interest, thanks for all the advice though

OP posts:
plsdontlookatme · 16/12/2025 23:03

Two possibilities:

  1. Cruel and unfeeling GF was conducting a lengthy, steamy, sordid affair behind the scenes. Fearing detection, she and a fellow Fiendish CroneTM crafted a cunning plan to frame BF.

  2. exGF was hurt and disappointed by long-term BF's lack of interest in committing to her. After some thought, she decided to end things.

Occam's Razor calls.

WomenAreNotEmotionalSupportAnimals · 16/12/2025 23:04

The amount of sexism or internalised misogyny on display in this thread and the last, including from the OP is worrying. At least the majority of posters agree that the GF in this scenario was the mature, sensible one after being strung along for so long by a future faker.

@OneGreenPoster your son is cruel to have used the GF as a placeholder. He belittled and dismissed her. I agree with others who said I think this was death by a thousand cuts for the GF.

Once she ended things you said he spoke to her the next day and offered to go buy a ring the day after that? Not that he suddenly realised that he was being ridiculous and that he really did want to marry her so why put it off, but begrudgingly hoping she'd accept the shut up pity ring so he might be able to hang onto his placeholder for a bit longer.

He didn't do the decent thing and look for a place to stay. I bet he hoped he could wear her down and get her to take him back. As a placeholder only of course.

She did not accept the shut up ring, and bloody good for her! So your son has been harassing her while she was away for a holiday! He harassed her so much that she had to ask him to move out immediately and block him!

Then instead of getting his stuff together and getting out of her property asap, he planned to ambush her when she returned home!

I know you're determined to paint the GF as in the wrong and your son as the poor hard done by party, but he is not the decent, sweet boy you think he is. He has acted terribly, and strayed into possibly abusive territory with the harassment and planned ambush.

He's very lucky your DH sees what he's really like, but you aren't helping him at all with your take on this.

There is apparently a large number of lonely, young single men these days. Women have realised their worth thank fuck! A lot of women are choosing to remain single these days because men, like your DS, are just not good enough. They are lazy, entitled, and not a little sexist, and these young women are seeing this and realising that actually they are much happier either single, or finding a partner who will treat them decently for starters, and wants the same things they want.

If your son doesn't buck up his ideas very quickly and learn the lessons his father is trying to teach him, he's going to end up one of those lonely men. He might pinball from relationship to relationship, but he won't be truly happy, he'll be with a string of someone's but lonely - like I assume your DH is truly happy to have met, married and had a family with you, being a team through life's ups and downs, working toward shared goals and caring about each other's needs - or me might just find himself alone, and lonely.

The GF on the other hand, it sounds like she's a smart young woman who is pro-active in going after what she wants! I like the sound of her, and I think she'll be very happy with her decision to dump your son, even if she's hurting now, and I expect she is hurting very much. She loved your son enough to want to build a life with him, and he belittled and demeaned her. She was right to dump him.

Thatsalineallright · 16/12/2025 23:05

Bungle2168 · 16/12/2025 22:55

@OneGreenPoster When a relationship turns sour, the party who had their head turned often rewrites the relationship roles. Their new love interest is the “rescuer”, the old one the “persecutor”, and they are the “victim”. It’s called the Karpman Drama Triangle, and I can see it playing out in your son’s relationship with his now ex-girlfriend. Tectonic plates have shifted behind the scenes and he is now playing catchup - poorly, I might add.

I am concerned about your son because he does seem to be a little immature, and has codependent tendencies. The panic proposal he made in response to to the girlfriend announcing her departure almost certainly elicited feelings of contempt towards him. I think he should have been prepared to have the courage of his convictions, and allowing himself to be browbeaten into doing things he is not 100% behind is foolish, but not an uncommon eventuality.

As for the girlfriend, well yes, she wears the pants alright. But I do not think she has acquitted herself well, either. Clearly her communication style needs work, but I have to ask myself whether this might be deliberate. Lack of candor is one way controllers exercise dominance since presenting decisions as a fait accompli keeps one’s interlocutors on the back foot.

I feel that if she had really wanted the relationship to work, she would have adopted a more constructive communication style.

Bottom line is, I feel the girlfriend wanted out and manipulated your son into a no-win position (the shit test).

That said, I think she has done them both a favor.

Edited

I'll ask again because you ignored my earlier post:

So what you're saying is she asked her boyfriend of 3 years "do you want to marry me?" as a way to break up with him? That sounds... complicated. What if he'd said yes?

Jellybean23 · 16/12/2025 23:05

Well done to your husband. Your son has got his wish, he's not getting married for the time being. His response to the girlfriend must have come across as patronising , 'now now, dear, we shall marry in my own good time and you will be advised when I deem it right to tell you'.

holidayhell123 · 16/12/2025 23:07

Wow, reading this I’ve realised there really is no winning as a woman.
Wait around on a man to see if he’ll propose? Well why didn’t you ask him!
You asked him yourself? Way too pushy!
Communicate your needs and then leave when laughed at? Controlling and immature!
Communicate your needs and then not leave when laughed at? DOORMAT!

There really is no winning! How exactly do I find out if someone wants to marry me and has similar plans to me and thus decide my future whilst keeping everyone happy? 😆 If I choose to communicate and move accordingly it’s selfish and immature and if I wait around and waste my life then I am indeed wasting my own life and a people pleaser!

MissDoubleU · 16/12/2025 23:08

OneGreenPoster · 16/12/2025 21:31

He is a brilliant dad, but he is very blunt at times.
Telling your son "you should've got your arse into gear if you wanted her that much" Isn't great when he's newly heartbroken
I think he needs some sympathy.

He’s right though. The truth is your son has shown this woman very little respect. Firstly she asked to discuss their future as a couple and he said “no.” He told her it was all up to him when their relationship progressed and he was to hold all the cards. When she said “actually, if we can’t be on the same page I need to leave” your son then continually harassed this poor lady. She set boundaries and he continued to cross them because she wasn’t doing what he wanted.

And you think he needs sympathy? He needs a good shake.

Anuta77 · 16/12/2025 23:09

NeverDropYourMooncup · 16/12/2025 22:02

We have no idea how many chances he's already had. If you've got an image in your head of the man you love going down on one knee and asking you to marry him, it takes a lot to chuck that wish away for a conversation where you are worried he might laugh at you or get stroppy. And she's taken that chance, abandoned that little, silly, romantic dream where for once, she's got the fairy tale - for him to laugh and say he's not interested in her emotions about it and won't do it even as a completely unromantic 'yeah, alright, let's buy a ring on Saturday'.

I understand, many of us have this romantic image and some men can provide it and others don't. Romantic proposals don't always result in great marriages either. I've read many stories where people love each other without getting married. Obviously, she has the right to search for whatever she's looking for and he also.

Bungle2168 · 16/12/2025 23:09

PithyTaupeWriter · 16/12/2025 22:59

This is utterly bonkers! What would you consider a palatable way to break up with someone? In my view, she's been thinking about it for quite some time because she didn't want to make a knee-jerk reaction in light of the 'silly timelines' comment. She gave it a decent amount of time. She generously initially allowed him to stay at her place for a little while, until he scared her by harassing her and not taking no for an answer.
He's the one not conducting himself well, panicking because he's lost his very cushy living situation.

Alright.

I would say that if I were the girlfriend and I wanted to get married, presumably to start a family, I would have had that conversation with OP’s son. If he had dismissed the idea as “silly”, I would have asked him what he was looking for in the relationship.

If I was not happy with the answer, I would have told him as much and said I did not see much of a future with him since our plans did not align. With all the implications that entails.

What I would not have done was stew over his response, then, weeks later, snap my heels together and demand him out of the house.

AnotherDayOfSun · 16/12/2025 23:10

A bit surprised by many of the comments here... OP, your son does not "owe" his partner (or any other partner) marriage. It is a mutual decision - one that is intended to last a lifetime, and cannot be done with pressure. It will benefit both of them to find someone who is right for them.

Arran2024 · 16/12/2025 23:11

Break ups ARE messy - espif you are living together. People saying the gf has been unreasonable and not broken up "properly" or "nicely" - well, what would you have her do? Surely faking it all over Christmas is inauthentic and unfair too? It's not her fault he has no plan B. His Plan A ie keeping her strung along while he got accommodation hasn't worked out but it's not her fault.

BadLad · 16/12/2025 23:11

DeftWasp · 16/12/2025 22:48

I'd say immature in three ways:

Doing the dumping and clearing off on holiday (bit of cowardice)

Allowing him to stay on at the flat (not going to work)

Blocking Him (childish)

I'm not saying the OPs son is a prince here, not saying he hasn't played his own part - but - I suspect that she has someone else, and further more I suspect that she might well be on holiday with that person right now.

I know statistically its men that usually cheat, but women do it too - and I'm not even scalding of her because of it, she felt she wasn't getting anywhere with OPs son, was treated as "silly" for asking about marriage, met someone more suitable.

Critical thing is for OPs son to get his stuff before she is back, drop the key through the letter box and not look back, for his own sake.

She could have made him leave her flat immediately after dumping him. Instead, she let him stay a bit longer - not forcing him, obviously, letting him - if he needed to.

Somehow @DeftWasp has found a way to twist that into her being at fault.

Bungle2168 · 16/12/2025 23:13

Thatsalineallright · 16/12/2025 23:05

I'll ask again because you ignored my earlier post:

So what you're saying is she asked her boyfriend of 3 years "do you want to marry me?" as a way to break up with him? That sounds... complicated. What if he'd said yes?

A lawyer instance knew once said to me: “Never ask a question that you do not already know the answer to.”

She knew he would obfuscate. That’s why she asked.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 16/12/2025 23:15

DeftWasp · 16/12/2025 22:48

I'd say immature in three ways:

Doing the dumping and clearing off on holiday (bit of cowardice)

Allowing him to stay on at the flat (not going to work)

Blocking Him (childish)

I'm not saying the OPs son is a prince here, not saying he hasn't played his own part - but - I suspect that she has someone else, and further more I suspect that she might well be on holiday with that person right now.

I know statistically its men that usually cheat, but women do it too - and I'm not even scalding of her because of it, she felt she wasn't getting anywhere with OPs son, was treated as "silly" for asking about marriage, met someone more suitable.

Critical thing is for OPs son to get his stuff before she is back, drop the key through the letter box and not look back, for his own sake.

Dumping and not being there for histrionic displays of begging or even accusations of cheating or violence - sensible for safety.

Allowing him to stay - would have had the BUT I'VE NOWHERE TO GO - do you want me to sleep in the park tonight? AND IT'S CHRISTMAS otherwise. Plus a safety concern in what if he refuses to leave? - not ideal, should have had to leave with his shit in binbags immediately, but maybe she isn't as much as an arse as he's been to her and wanted to give him a chance to sort out his old bedroom.

Blocking him - sensible. He's harassing her after she's ended the relationship. Nobody has to give somebody who won't take no for an answer any airtime, especially when it would be demanding attention over and above normal levels/accusing her of stuff, making threats, etc, etc. Could have been 10 calls or 1000 messages and calls throughout the day and night for all we know. She doesn't have to give a man attention when she doesn't want to. Because No means No.

You might not be able to function without somebody's cock being present, but most of us are able to do things all by ourselves, such as end relationships that make us feel like shit.

The one thing that you have said that is sensible is that he gets his shit together and leaves the key. Although I'd have suggested that he gets hoofed out and the lock changed before she left on holiday to avoid him sitting there in the dark waiting for her or trashing the place - for her safety.

Letsskidaddle · 16/12/2025 23:16

I wish I’d had my head screwed on as well as this young woman, it would’ve saved a lot of heartache and mess. She’s respected herself and done what’s right for her. It won’t have been an easy decision and she’ll grieve for what she thought she had.

@OneGreenPoster your son had his chance and didn’t take it, so has learnt the hard way. He didn’t even discuss and say for example, ‘I don’t feel we’re financially/career wise ready yet, but will be in 12 months…” or anything. He offered nothing until she’d had enough - sounds like he only proposed to save himself the pain of a break up. He still didn’t commit to a date and time for marriage. Don’t try and justify his actions by saying she didn’t love him - that’ll teach him NOTHING. He needs to learn that you can’t lead people on and ‘future fake’.

He’s not actually that good a man - he has strung her along, suggesting a future together that he’s not followed through on. She’s been a placeholder for him, and would’ve been dumped if he’d met someone better. Good men don’t do that.

I’m certain she did love him and did want marriage and the full works of future and family with him, BUT he dithered. No one wants someone who’s unsure and only proposes when it’s too late. It’s amazing how quickly your feelings can switch off when you realise the man is actually just using you to fill a gap until his ‘mrs right’ comes along.

FairKoala · 16/12/2025 23:17

shhblackbag · 16/12/2025 22:31

Has he been harassing her just for the fun of it, then? Why repeatedly call and text someone he's not wanting back? Perhaps he's just dealing with a hurt ego and hating that she walked away.

Either way, she dodged a couple of bullets.

He took her for granted and expected her to wait around. He may never have been ready

Was he just waiting around for a better offer to come along.

HisNotHes · 16/12/2025 23:18

Iamnicehonest · 16/12/2025 17:56

Why is it so wrong that he didnt want to get married? Not everyone wants to get married.

Also, if it was such a big deal to her why didnt she ask him to marry her? Bit pathetic these days to wait for a man to ask if that what she wants.

He's better off without her.

Edited

“Why is it so wrong that he didnt want to get married?” - it’s not, but then don’t get upset when the other partner who DOES want to get married ends the relationship.

PithyTaupeWriter · 16/12/2025 23:18

DH is the MVP in this scenario as far as I am concerned. He is the only one giving DS appropriate advice.

pollyglot · 16/12/2025 23:19

OP - is your DS an only child, by any chance?

Matildalamp · 16/12/2025 23:20

plsdontlookatme · 16/12/2025 22:59

For those unfamiliar, the "shit test" is an incel/pick-up artist concept in which any simple act by a woman that conflicts with a man's relentless pursuit of his own self-interest is characterised as a devious attempt at manipulation.

Thank you for explaining! I had no idea what that meant and was scared to google!

Nugg · 16/12/2025 23:27

OneGreenPoster · 16/12/2025 21:31

He is a brilliant dad, but he is very blunt at times.
Telling your son "you should've got your arse into gear if you wanted her that much" Isn't great when he's newly heartbroken
I think he needs some sympathy.

I have 3 adult children and yes it’s great advice telling him he should have got his A into G!!

life lesson for next time….

EchoesOfOurDreams · 16/12/2025 23:27

OneGreenPoster · 16/12/2025 21:31

He is a brilliant dad, but he is very blunt at times.
Telling your son "you should've got your arse into gear if you wanted her that much" Isn't great when he's newly heartbroken
I think he needs some sympathy.

Your DH is absolutely right.

Your DS doesn't need to be coddled as it was entirely his own fault. Hopefully this will be a wake-up call and he will treat his next long-term partner better.

mummytrex · 16/12/2025 23:29

SL2924 · 16/12/2025 20:48

Tbh she didn’t really love him. If she did then I don’t think she could walk away that easily. He’ll be better off in the long run.

Disagree.

She invested 3 years and allowed him to live in with her. She asked whether marriage was in the cards and her "silly" conversation was shut down and then simply ignored for months.

Bombarding the ex with messages after the event probably feels/comes across to the ex as hollow and simply an attempt to maintain his residence.

In the ex's position I'd be cheesed off that having been left to stew for months and made the difficult decision to end things that he ignored requests to be left allme and instead pushed to discuss now after ending the relationship, again on his timeline and terms which deepens the disrespect. [I went through this, but the other party respected my need for space].

It's sad that despite the advice on the previous thread you clearly still don't get it and jump on the post that says she didn't love him @OneGreenPoster.

On the bright side having lived in girlfriend's place he would have lots of savings to move to his own place.

KittyFinlay · 16/12/2025 23:29

OneGreenPoster · 16/12/2025 21:31

He is a brilliant dad, but he is very blunt at times.
Telling your son "you should've got your arse into gear if you wanted her that much" Isn't great when he's newly heartbroken
I think he needs some sympathy.

Maybe if you'd done that sooner he wouldn't have got dumped.

WittyTaupeFox · 16/12/2025 23:36

3 years at that age is definitely stringing her along. She will have learnt very quickly to “never allow a man to treat her as his wife before making her his wife.”

hopefully your son learns from this too.

Coalday · 16/12/2025 23:38

He will learn far more if he is open to it, from his father being blunt, than you being sympathetic to him.

I think she definitely wisely detached from him after that dismissive conversation, and wants to move forward in 2026.

She's a very sensible young woman not to hang around for someone who was clearly taking her for granted.