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To think that antisemitism now needs to be tackled in the strongest possible way?

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LucyWestenra · 15/12/2025 11:30

The Bondi thread in chat was eye opening.

Forty pages and a lot of it whataboutery, excuses and vile antisemitism.

It’s disgusting.

It needs to be called out. It needs to be rooted out.

I feel so sorry for the Jewish communities everywhere. How can they possibly feel safe?

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Genericfestiveusername · 17/12/2025 12:47

LucyWestenra · 17/12/2025 11:26

I’d like to hear the answer to this too.

How would people feel if this had happened at Glastonbury for instance?

Which country is the UK occupying in this hypothetical example?

MrsSkylerWhite · 17/12/2025 12:49

PoppysAunt · 15/12/2025 11:59

What about the Iranian Mullahs and the leadership of Afghanistan who believe that no women should have civil or human rights?
Do we blame our Muslim neighbours for that? Say they've got a target on their back?

Unfortunately yes, lots of people do. Why else is reform so popular?

Snowonground · 17/12/2025 12:52

PurpleThistle7 · 17/12/2025 12:25

What about the millions of Jews who are indeed Zionists and might even support the actions of Israel? (Not saying I'm one, just asking)... are they not entitled to the protection of their own countries? Do we have to prove we are worthy?

there are clearly millions of people of all sorts of religious and ethnic backgrounds who hold problematic views and yet they also deserve our protection. That's literally what makes us a democracy.

as an aside I would also love to know the correct response to October 7th. When Pearl Harbor was bombed the USA nuked Japan... twice.

And Pearl Harbour was a military target. Unlike the Nova festival.

Snowonground · 17/12/2025 12:58

MrsSkylerWhite · 17/12/2025 12:49

Unfortunately yes, lots of people do. Why else is reform so popular?

Reform is popular due to excessive immigration from a lot of different countries that have incompatible cultures to our own mainly vis a vis women and gay people (and Jews) and some of them seem to be unable to stop themselves attacking other people.

And that successive government don't seem to have the will to stop the illegal immigration of people coming in with those views or ability to chuck out any immigrant that commit crimes.

But Reform whatever other policies they have do have that will. And its the number one priority of the country. So thats why Reform are so popular.

Its not rocket science.

Kingscallops · 17/12/2025 13:00

MrsSkylerWhite · 17/12/2025 12:49

Unfortunately yes, lots of people do. Why else is reform so popular?

Yet antisemitism is boldly sang from the rooftops.

Peridoteage · 17/12/2025 13:04

PinkTonic · 17/12/2025 11:24

Can you share what you think would be a proportionate response to having your country constantly bombed and subject to terrorist attacks from people whose avowed intent is to eradicate said country from the face of the earth? And having thousands of evil men pour across your borders to perpetrate acts of such unspeakable and unimaginable depravity against your citizens that it defies the understanding of any normal human being?

Two wrongs don't make a right. It's never ok to kill children/starve a whole civilian population. The UN commission classified what has happened in Gaza as genocide.

Kingscallops · 17/12/2025 13:06

Peridoteage · 17/12/2025 13:04

Two wrongs don't make a right. It's never ok to kill children/starve a whole civilian population. The UN commission classified what has happened in Gaza as genocide.

In that case you must be outraged at these murders.

MrsSkylerWhite · 17/12/2025 13:07

Snowonground · 17/12/2025 12:58

Reform is popular due to excessive immigration from a lot of different countries that have incompatible cultures to our own mainly vis a vis women and gay people (and Jews) and some of them seem to be unable to stop themselves attacking other people.

And that successive government don't seem to have the will to stop the illegal immigration of people coming in with those views or ability to chuck out any immigrant that commit crimes.

But Reform whatever other policies they have do have that will. And its the number one priority of the country. So thats why Reform are so popular.

Its not rocket science.

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Throw in a dash of bigotry.

MrsSkylerWhite · 17/12/2025 13:08

Kingscallops · 17/12/2025 13:00

Yet antisemitism is boldly sang from the rooftops.

It is. So is anti-Muslim hatred. Not mutually exclusive.

Kingscallops · 17/12/2025 13:08

MrsSkylerWhite · 17/12/2025 13:07

Throw in a dash of bigotry.

I might take a dash of bigotry over the murder of a 10 year old or a middle aged couple. Your priorities are clear.

Kingscallops · 17/12/2025 13:09

MrsSkylerWhite · 17/12/2025 13:08

It is. So is anti-Muslim hatred. Not mutually exclusive.

Great so you can be equally outraged at both. Hmmm

LucyWestenra · 17/12/2025 13:10

Kingscallops · 17/12/2025 13:08

I might take a dash of bigotry over the murder of a 10 year old or a middle aged couple. Your priorities are clear.

Couldn’t agree more.

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PinkTonic · 17/12/2025 13:12

Peridoteage · 17/12/2025 13:04

Two wrongs don't make a right. It's never ok to kill children/starve a whole civilian population. The UN commission classified what has happened in Gaza as genocide.

The UN is demonstrably antisemitic so their classification is expected

Hollar · 17/12/2025 13:15

singmoon · 17/12/2025 11:31

Do we in the west arm and support Iran? Or Afghanistan? And call them democratic and legitimate states? The two states are not in fact comparable to Israel. Though, just fur clarity, I would not under any circumstances condone seeing Jewish people worldwide as responsible for the crimes of Israel. Or Muslims worldwide for the actions of rogue Islamic states either.

We arm the Saudis. And China. It’s never mentioned though. This idea that all the focus on Israel is completely reasonable and justified just does not tally with the intensity and tribalism associated with it.

But regardless, the point is that the discussion of antisemitism always seems to come back to Israel even when people are saying that they completely accept that British/Australian Jews are not responsible for Israel. Which is strange. We all accept it isn’t relevant but people keep making it relevant.

I just think there is so much moral confusion. People are seduced by this Che Guevara, Nelson Mandela, IRA ‘freedom fighter’ bullshit. Just because in some cases they got what they wanted, it doesn’t mean what they were morally right. The principle is clear. Targeting civilians is always wrong. Always.

MrsSkylerWhite · 17/12/2025 13:17

Kingscallops · 17/12/2025 13:08

I might take a dash of bigotry over the murder of a 10 year old or a middle aged couple. Your priorities are clear.

Really? What are my priorities, enlighten me please?

MrsSkylerWhite · 17/12/2025 13:18

Kingscallops · 17/12/2025 13:09

Great so you can be equally outraged at both. Hmmm

Yes. Both are outrageous. Anti-semitism and anti-Islam.

singmoon · 17/12/2025 13:21

Hollar · 17/12/2025 13:15

We arm the Saudis. And China. It’s never mentioned though. This idea that all the focus on Israel is completely reasonable and justified just does not tally with the intensity and tribalism associated with it.

But regardless, the point is that the discussion of antisemitism always seems to come back to Israel even when people are saying that they completely accept that British/Australian Jews are not responsible for Israel. Which is strange. We all accept it isn’t relevant but people keep making it relevant.

I just think there is so much moral confusion. People are seduced by this Che Guevara, Nelson Mandela, IRA ‘freedom fighter’ bullshit. Just because in some cases they got what they wanted, it doesn’t mean what they were morally right. The principle is clear. Targeting civilians is always wrong. Always.

I absolutely agree with you about targeting civilians, this is why Israel is committing war crimes in doing so.

singmoon · 17/12/2025 13:22

PinkTonic · 17/12/2025 13:12

The UN is demonstrably antisemitic so their classification is expected

The UN is not anti semitic. It rightly criticises Israel. That is not anti semitic.

singmoon · 17/12/2025 13:24

PurpleThistle7 · 17/12/2025 12:25

What about the millions of Jews who are indeed Zionists and might even support the actions of Israel? (Not saying I'm one, just asking)... are they not entitled to the protection of their own countries? Do we have to prove we are worthy?

there are clearly millions of people of all sorts of religious and ethnic backgrounds who hold problematic views and yet they also deserve our protection. That's literally what makes us a democracy.

as an aside I would also love to know the correct response to October 7th. When Pearl Harbor was bombed the USA nuked Japan... twice.

Nuking nagasaki and hiroshima was shameful also.

Peridoteage · 17/12/2025 13:25

In that case you must be outraged at these murders.

I am, utterly horrified.

Peridoteage · 17/12/2025 13:26

Nuking nagasaki and hiroshima was shameful also

This, it was an utter atrocity and must never be repeated.

LucyWestenra · 17/12/2025 13:27

singmoon · 17/12/2025 13:22

The UN is not anti semitic. It rightly criticises Israel. That is not anti semitic.

So why did the UN condemn Israel more than all other countries combined in 2022?

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LucyWestenra · 17/12/2025 13:30

And think of some of those other countries and their records on human rights.

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HappyFace2025 · 17/12/2025 13:36

LucyWestenra · 17/12/2025 11:55

You can’t equate Israel or even the Israeli government with Hamas. You just can’t.

There appears to be a number of posters who do. Ignorance is bliss (sarcasm)

singmoon · 17/12/2025 13:41

HappyFace2025 · 17/12/2025 13:36

There appears to be a number of posters who do. Ignorance is bliss (sarcasm)

Yes you can, you really can. Both have slaughtered innocent civilians.

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