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The reactions to the Bondi Beach terrorist attack has shown how racist many posters are here.

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TheTamerShrew · 15/12/2025 09:24

I’m posting because I’m struggling with how racism against Jews is being talked about here following the recent terrorist attack in Australia. What I’ve seen, again and again, is minimisation: it wasn’t really about Jews, it was more complicated than that, let’s not jump to conclusions, other groups have it worse. All the familiar caveats come out remarkably quickly when the victims are Jewish.

I want to say clearly: racism against Jews is racism. Full stop. It doesn’t become less serious because it’s uncomfortable, politically inconvenient, or doesn’t fit neatly into how some people understand racism. And it doesn’t need to compete with other forms of racism to be real or worthy of being named.

What I find particularly painful is how often antisemitism is explained away rather than confronted. We would rightly challenge this pattern if it happened after an attack on almost any other minority group. Yet when Jews are targeted, there seems to be an urge to dilute, reframe, or downplay what’s happened.
I’d really ask people to pause and self-reflect on why that might be.

Why does naming antisemitism feel harder?
Why is there a rush to qualify it, contextualise it out of existence, or deny it altogether?
Why is Jewish fear so often treated as oversensitivity rather than a rational response to a long and very real history?

Acknowledging racism is not an accusation against everyone else. It’s the first, necessary step in confronting it. If we can’t even name antisemitism when it’s staring us in the face, we have no chance of challenging it, let alone preventing it.

We don’t make the world safer by minimising hatred. We make it safer by recognising it honestly, even when that recognition makes us uncomfortable.

I hope this can be read in the spirit it’s intended: not to shut down discussion, but to ask people to explore and self reflect.

See the attached photo: in order to become Anti-racist, one needs to first acknowledge racism

The reactions to the Bondi Beach terrorist attack has shown how racist many posters are here.
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HappyFace2025 · 16/12/2025 11:14

Twiglets1 · 16/12/2025 10:35

Can't help smiling at the lion analogy.

The poster who made it would be standing in front of said lion thinking, What really motivates you I wonder? Is it the age old battle to be top predator or an instinct to protect the pride or maybe revenge for historical injustices? while the lion is thinking Dinner.

😂

whymadam · 16/12/2025 11:19

Beachtastic · 16/12/2025 09:11

Thank you; I shall, for as long as I witness marches in our streets that are designed to intimidate the Jewish population of this country, and people responding to a terrorist attack on Jews in Australia with "but Gaza", and Primal Scream displaying a swastika at their gig in North London, etc etc.

Oh whoops, your flippant little "but Gaza" comment seems to imply you belittle, possibly condone the slaughter of 70 000+ mostly women and children! Listen to yourself, jeez.

Beachtastic · 16/12/2025 11:22

whymadam · 16/12/2025 11:19

Oh whoops, your flippant little "but Gaza" comment seems to imply you belittle, possibly condone the slaughter of 70 000+ mostly women and children! Listen to yourself, jeez.

Really? You've misunderstood me. I thought my meaning was pretty clear in the context of this thread.

whymadam · 16/12/2025 11:23

IAmAHomewardBounder · 16/12/2025 10:51

whymadam · Today 17:13

For people on this thread who cannot fathom what the tragic deaths of innocent Jewish people have to do with the ghastly situation in Palestine, go do some homework FGS! Note: this comment does not mean I justify anti-semitism, racism, violence etc, ok?

On this post you assert it's obvious that the murder of Jews in Australia is because of Gaza, and that it should be easy to understand why.

In no other terrorist attack have I known people to imply the victims had it coming because of a situation in a completely different continent and country.

You haven't quite got the point. Please, do some research. You might learn something. And you can keep your point of view, of course.

whymadam · 16/12/2025 11:28

Beachtastic · 16/12/2025 11:22

Really? You've misunderstood me. I thought my meaning was pretty clear in the context of this thread.

It's clear, but not in the way you intend. I don't think. Try again, without implying people whinge about genocide. Because that is shocking.

IAmAHomewardBounder · 16/12/2025 11:35

whymadam · 16/12/2025 11:23

You haven't quite got the point. Please, do some research. You might learn something. And you can keep your point of view, of course.

That's why I'm repeatedly asking you to explain your point?

NC543210 · 16/12/2025 11:35

I've not rtft. I don't need to to know how it has probably played out.

Which is essentially people defending a terrorist attack because of Gaza.
That's not how it works.
Killing innocent people on a beach in Australia has zero to do with if you disagree with the actions of a government and more to do with the persecution of the Jews. It is a tale as old as time.
A tale that i am sick of hearing.
It is diabolical and the defending of terrorism even worse.

The barricades at Christian christmas markets all over the UK and the rest of Europe aren't over fears of the Israeli government or Jewish people are they?! Lets be honest here.
I am so sick of it all. The world is fucked.

HappyFace2025 · 16/12/2025 11:35

Beachtastic · 16/12/2025 11:22

Really? You've misunderstood me. I thought my meaning was pretty clear in the context of this thread.

It was.

Alltheprettyseahorses · 16/12/2025 11:51

whymadam · 16/12/2025 11:19

Oh whoops, your flippant little "but Gaza" comment seems to imply you belittle, possibly condone the slaughter of 70 000+ mostly women and children! Listen to yourself, jeez.

I am going to be straight here because to me this is emotionally manipulative. It was not a slaughter, it was a war that Palestine started - not just with their genocidal attack but with thousands of bombs - and which Palestine kept going with tens of thousands more bombs. A very small % of Palestinians were killed, fewer in 2 years than in Sudan in the last fortnight. Areas were given notice to evacuate and subsequent warfare was focused on Hamas soldiers and Hamas acknowledged its heavy losses.

I honestly think the real problem is that Israel won and Palestine didn't get to kill more Israelis.

Regarding the marches, they've long lost anyone genuinely concerned about peace and are just the hard-core wronguns. Why do you think they were out the same night there was a terrorist attack in Manchester? I was caught up in the mob in Liverpool and they were like rampaging beasts capering through Lime Street Station, shops had to shut for the safety of workers. I'm not having anyone tell me they're anything but racist hate and thugs revelling in a license for righteous vandalism.

1dayatatime · 16/12/2025 11:52

NewNameforThisPost2025 · 16/12/2025 10:45

I just cannot get my head round anyone seriously thinking that killing Jewish people is the right thing to do, and the only way my mind can make any sense of it is to conclude that the perpetrators are all mad. Not saying I’m right, just saying what my instinct is.

I see your point and that coming from a rational civilised position would think that "insanity " is the only explanation.

The problem with such a stance is that it tolerates and doesn't address the ongoing and open indoctrination that is going on right now.

Those people shouting "Globalise the Infifada" are knowingly or through stupidity calling for further attacks like Bondi Beach. Those protesters supporting Palestine Action are supporting a group that damaged British military bases and attacked a police woman with a sledgehammer.

Alltheprettyseahorses · 16/12/2025 12:13

1dayatatime · 16/12/2025 11:52

I see your point and that coming from a rational civilised position would think that "insanity " is the only explanation.

The problem with such a stance is that it tolerates and doesn't address the ongoing and open indoctrination that is going on right now.

Those people shouting "Globalise the Infifada" are knowingly or through stupidity calling for further attacks like Bondi Beach. Those protesters supporting Palestine Action are supporting a group that damaged British military bases and attacked a police woman with a sledgehammer.

This is correct. Which is why the protesters try to rationalise (using that word from their pov not mine) the attacks as being because of Gaza. They can't deny their 'cause' is linked to that of the attackers, they chant the same words after all, so there's a false framing as what they see is a just and righteous reason when it really isn't true at all.

Dideon · 16/12/2025 12:17

IAmAHomewardBounder · 16/12/2025 10:51

whymadam · Today 17:13

For people on this thread who cannot fathom what the tragic deaths of innocent Jewish people have to do with the ghastly situation in Palestine, go do some homework FGS! Note: this comment does not mean I justify anti-semitism, racism, violence etc, ok?

On this post you assert it's obvious that the murder of Jews in Australia is because of Gaza, and that it should be easy to understand why.

In no other terrorist attack have I known people to imply the victims had it coming because of a situation in a completely different continent and country.

But nobody is implying that !!!

Dideon · 16/12/2025 12:24

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TwelvePiecesOfFlair · 16/12/2025 12:33

BackToLurk · 16/12/2025 08:18

If a random Asian man was attacked in the street what type of person do you think would mention grooming gangs in relation to it?

THIS!!!

inamarina · 16/12/2025 12:53

1dayatatime · 16/12/2025 10:21

Describing them as "mad men" is too simplistic as well as being untrue.

They decided to massacre Jews on Bondi Beach quite simply because they have been indoctrinated by their Muslim faith to hate Jews. And they are supported in this action by the Western useful idiots chanting "Globalise the Intifada ".

A 2020 report by the <a class="break-all" href="https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=web&rct=j&url=henryjacksonsociety.org/publications/britishmuslimantisemitism/&ved=2ahUKEwii_omr8MGRAxUnREEAHS5FGicQy_kOegQIAxAC&opi=89978449&cd&psig=AOvVaw0iRDsHo2x_8tJge3sxXeqw&ust=1765966589059000" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Henry Jackson Society, based on a late 2019 poll, found significant agreement among British Muslims with several anti-Semitic tropes:

44% believed British Jewish people were more loyal to Israel than to the UK. This compares to 24% of the general population in a separate poll.
34% believed Jews have too much control over the global banking system.
33% believed Jews have too much control over global political leadership.

More recently
46% of British Muslims expressed sympathy for Hamas in the Israel-Palestine conflict. The same poll reported that only one in four British Muslims believed Hamas committed murder and rape in Israel on October 7, 2023.

The same poll reported that only one in four British Muslims believed Hamas committed murder and rape in Israel on October 7, 2023.

This is crazy. What on earth do the rest think happened on October 7th?

Beachtastic · 16/12/2025 12:53

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I understand your frustration, but I don't think the "causal effect" is as simple as that. The rise of antisemitism has been deliberately orchestrated, and not by Israel. As long as everyone keeps the finger firmly pointed at Israel (as they have on this thread about a terrorist attack in Australia), Hamas and their wealthy, powerful allies are getting Western liberals to finish the job they started on 7/10, fully knowing what was likely to happen next and exploiting all outcomes to achieve their ultimate goal.

sabababa · 16/12/2025 12:59

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And as has been pointed out many times, this is not new. Jews and jewish institutions have long been a target, sometimes less and sometimes more.

Blaming Israel for why two Muslim men of Pakistani origin killed Jews in Australia is a bit of a stretch.

sabababa · 16/12/2025 13:00

inamarina · 16/12/2025 12:53

The same poll reported that only one in four British Muslims believed Hamas committed murder and rape in Israel on October 7, 2023.

This is crazy. What on earth do the rest think happened on October 7th?

They believe Hamas only went after military targets and all the rest was israel or lies. Cognitive dissonance is real.

CatkinToadflax · 16/12/2025 13:05

There are many posts on this thread stating “I’m not antisemitic, but….” which should probably just say “I am antisemitic”. Why attempt to justify the mass murder of Australian Jews otherwise?

whymadam · 16/12/2025 13:06

Alltheprettyseahorses · 16/12/2025 11:51

I am going to be straight here because to me this is emotionally manipulative. It was not a slaughter, it was a war that Palestine started - not just with their genocidal attack but with thousands of bombs - and which Palestine kept going with tens of thousands more bombs. A very small % of Palestinians were killed, fewer in 2 years than in Sudan in the last fortnight. Areas were given notice to evacuate and subsequent warfare was focused on Hamas soldiers and Hamas acknowledged its heavy losses.

I honestly think the real problem is that Israel won and Palestine didn't get to kill more Israelis.

Regarding the marches, they've long lost anyone genuinely concerned about peace and are just the hard-core wronguns. Why do you think they were out the same night there was a terrorist attack in Manchester? I was caught up in the mob in Liverpool and they were like rampaging beasts capering through Lime Street Station, shops had to shut for the safety of workers. I'm not having anyone tell me they're anything but racist hate and thugs revelling in a license for righteous vandalism.

I can't comment on the marches but the rest of your comment disgusts me. Very small percentage, eh? The Gaza genocide is one of the leading causes of child death in the world atm. There are official figures online. If you can bear to read them.

Yeswoman · 16/12/2025 13:06

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This sums up the entire thread.

FunMustard · 16/12/2025 13:09

I completely agree.

I was scrolling Tiktok yesterday and saw a video offering sympathy to the families concerned. Of course, of the 4 or 5 comments, at least 2 had decided that it was appropriate to make a "and what about Palestine" type comment.

Without commenting on the governments of any country, I find it utterly baffling how people deny racism and antisemitism when they have such strong feelings about Israel, but not about Russia? Not about Sudan? Not about Syria?

These were Jews celebrating their holiday in a public place, which they should absolutely be able to, without the threat of anything, let alone death. I am disgusted with the whataboutism and acceptance from some people.

What's that phrase? "Lest we forget"?

Beachtastic · 16/12/2025 13:11

Yeswoman · 16/12/2025 13:06

This sums up the entire thread.

I agree with you, but for different reasons. See the post that followed yours.

FunMustard · 16/12/2025 13:13

Beachtastic · 16/12/2025 13:11

I agree with you, but for different reasons. See the post that followed yours.

As you're referring to my post - can you elaborate please?

SpaceRaccoon · 16/12/2025 13:16

sabababa · 16/12/2025 13:00

They believe Hamas only went after military targets and all the rest was israel or lies. Cognitive dissonance is real.

I've noticed a lot of this. People who consider themselves fundamentally good, and would therefore never condone such actions, but hate Israel and support Palestine (and sneakily, Hamas), so the only way to mentally deal with it is with all the stuff about denying the sexual atrocities, claiming most of the deaths were friendly fire etc, all those other conspiracy theories.

That could easily have been me if I hadn't seen actual attack footage, but there was no denying my way around that.

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