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The reactions to the Bondi Beach terrorist attack has shown how racist many posters are here.

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TheTamerShrew · 15/12/2025 09:24

I’m posting because I’m struggling with how racism against Jews is being talked about here following the recent terrorist attack in Australia. What I’ve seen, again and again, is minimisation: it wasn’t really about Jews, it was more complicated than that, let’s not jump to conclusions, other groups have it worse. All the familiar caveats come out remarkably quickly when the victims are Jewish.

I want to say clearly: racism against Jews is racism. Full stop. It doesn’t become less serious because it’s uncomfortable, politically inconvenient, or doesn’t fit neatly into how some people understand racism. And it doesn’t need to compete with other forms of racism to be real or worthy of being named.

What I find particularly painful is how often antisemitism is explained away rather than confronted. We would rightly challenge this pattern if it happened after an attack on almost any other minority group. Yet when Jews are targeted, there seems to be an urge to dilute, reframe, or downplay what’s happened.
I’d really ask people to pause and self-reflect on why that might be.

Why does naming antisemitism feel harder?
Why is there a rush to qualify it, contextualise it out of existence, or deny it altogether?
Why is Jewish fear so often treated as oversensitivity rather than a rational response to a long and very real history?

Acknowledging racism is not an accusation against everyone else. It’s the first, necessary step in confronting it. If we can’t even name antisemitism when it’s staring us in the face, we have no chance of challenging it, let alone preventing it.

We don’t make the world safer by minimising hatred. We make it safer by recognising it honestly, even when that recognition makes us uncomfortable.

I hope this can be read in the spirit it’s intended: not to shut down discussion, but to ask people to explore and self reflect.

See the attached photo: in order to become Anti-racist, one needs to first acknowledge racism

The reactions to the Bondi Beach terrorist attack has shown how racist many posters are here.
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jeffgoldblum · 15/12/2025 18:31

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You are aware that Hamas main goal was to ethnically cleanse Israel?
where have half of these posters been for the last 20 to 30 years?
this isn’t some new trend, have you not heard about what has been going on?
since the beginning Israel has been systematically attacked by all the surrounding neighbours, that’s why they have the Ariel defence that they have, they are bombed and have missiles fired at their country constantly for years.
this is the first time they have gone from simply defending themselves and their borders to actually going to full on war.
and before you think I’m a supporter, no , I can understand the reason but my sympathies lie with the women and children in all wars who suffer because men like to play the aggressor.

nocoolnamesleft · 15/12/2025 18:37

Could one of the apologists for terrorists tell me what influence a 10 year old Australian Jewish girl could possibly have over the Israeli government?

NorwegianinLondon1 · 15/12/2025 18:56

nocoolnamesleft · 15/12/2025 18:37

Could one of the apologists for terrorists tell me what influence a 10 year old Australian Jewish girl could possibly have over the Israeli government?

I have read the whole thread and must have missed the one apologising for the terrorists?

Beachtastic · 15/12/2025 19:07

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I find it hard to stomach this thread being used to amplify Hamas propaganda.

Livelovebehappy · 15/12/2025 19:09

NorwegianinLondon1 · 15/12/2025 18:56

I have read the whole thread and must have missed the one apologising for the terrorists?

There’s a few posts along the lines of ‘well yes, very sad, but this is what happens with the ‘genocide’ situation in Gaza’. That excuses terrorism against Jewish people, implying it’s justified. It sticks in anti semitic’s throats to actually have to express sympathy for the Jews, and they always make sure though that it’s followed by a ‘but’. Thats how they roll…

NorwegianinLondon1 · 15/12/2025 19:11

Livelovebehappy · 15/12/2025 19:09

There’s a few posts along the lines of ‘well yes, very sad, but this is what happens with the ‘genocide’ situation in Gaza’. That excuses terrorism against Jewish people, implying it’s justified. It sticks in anti semitic’s throats to actually have to express sympathy for the Jews, and they always make sure though that it’s followed by a ‘but’. Thats how they roll…

I genuinely cannot see those posts and like I said I have read the whole thread carefully.

inamarina · 15/12/2025 19:12

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Hamas did not make them do this.

What do you think Hamas thought would happen after their attack on October 7th?

Livelovebehappy · 15/12/2025 19:14

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Livelovebehappy · 15/12/2025 19:21

NorwegianinLondon1 · 15/12/2025 19:11

I genuinely cannot see those posts and like I said I have read the whole thread carefully.

Have you seen before and after aerial photos of Gaza? Have a look at those, think who did the damage, and then think how you might feel / what you might do if someone did that to your family. Over, and over, and over until the place was flattened. Maybe don't call it a 'war' either. You need 2 armed sides to fight one of those. The people of Gaza have no army. Please have a think about it, and learn the differences between Palestine, Gaza and Hamas. Also, please note that in NO WAY do I condone violence or anti-semitism by making these comments

One example right here. And I didn’t need to look far for it. One of a few. Someone making excuses for what happened. And adding the predictable ‘but’…..’please note that in NO WAY do I condone violence blah blah’…..

snoopyscosmicanomaly · 15/12/2025 19:22

whymadam · 15/12/2025 17:04

Yes, I think this is what she's saying. Have you seen before and after aerial photos of Gaza? Have a look at those, think who did the damage, and then think how you might feel / what you might do if someone did that to your family. Over, and over, and over until the place was flattened. Maybe don't call it a 'war' either. You need 2 armed sides to fight one of those. The people of Gaza have no army. Please have a think about it, and learn the differences between Palestine, Gaza and Hamas. Also, please note that in NO WAY do I condone violence or anti-semitism by making these comments.

Have you seen the aerial views of Darfur (visible from Space)? Have a look at those, think who did the damage, and then think how you might feel / what you might do if someone did that to your family. Over, and over, and over until the place was flattened. Maybe don't call it a 'war' either. You need 2 armed sides to fight one of those. The African people of Darfur have no army. Please have a think about it, and learn the differences between Sudanese non-Muslim African civilians and the Arab Janjaweed militias. Also, please note that in NO WAY do I condone violence or Islamophobia by making these comments.

Livelovebehappy · 15/12/2025 19:25

Yeswoman · 15/12/2025 16:28

incidents of anti semitism have increased by at least 200 percent since October 7. why do you think this is?

Only by one section of the community. Most people generally are not anti semetic apart from a section of community who are driving the racism and hatred against Jews. Take them out of the equation and Jews would be left alone to live their lives in peace.

mouthpipette · 15/12/2025 19:29

Livelovebehappy · 15/12/2025 19:09

There’s a few posts along the lines of ‘well yes, very sad, but this is what happens with the ‘genocide’ situation in Gaza’. That excuses terrorism against Jewish people, implying it’s justified. It sticks in anti semitic’s throats to actually have to express sympathy for the Jews, and they always make sure though that it’s followed by a ‘but’. Thats how they roll…

Having read nearly all the thread, I've seen little but revulsion for the murders in the antisemitic attack in Australia.

However some on here are simply saying it didn't happen in isolation, and would probably not have happened had there not been the last 2 years.
Antisemitic attacks have increased since Oct 7.
It is not being a terrorist apologist to try to understand why this has happened.
For a few psychotic, hate filled, prejudiced, sociopaths, Israel's actions have been an excuse for their hate to crystallise and two of them were in Bondi.
The questions are; what drove them and how can similar incidents be prevented. Look forward, not back.

kkloo · 15/12/2025 19:35

Tooobvious · 15/12/2025 17:18

So what was the history that you think explains the murderers' decision to target Australian Jews of all ages, from children to Holocaust survivors?

The reason they targeted Australian Jews was presumably the obvious answer, the attackers live in Australia themselves.

Livelovebehappy · 15/12/2025 19:37

mouthpipette · 15/12/2025 19:29

Having read nearly all the thread, I've seen little but revulsion for the murders in the antisemitic attack in Australia.

However some on here are simply saying it didn't happen in isolation, and would probably not have happened had there not been the last 2 years.
Antisemitic attacks have increased since Oct 7.
It is not being a terrorist apologist to try to understand why this has happened.
For a few psychotic, hate filled, prejudiced, sociopaths, Israel's actions have been an excuse for their hate to crystallise and two of them were in Bondi.
The questions are; what drove them and how can similar incidents be prevented. Look forward, not back.

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Similar incidents will never be avoided, because we’re dealing with evil people who will deal with it via violence. You can’t rationalise with evil, because that’s who they are, the environment they have lived in which is full of like minded people, the majority of whom won’t follow through with murdering people, but who will inwardly be cheering the murderers on. Anti semitism amongst certain people hasn’t just appeared since Oct 7th. It’s always been there, but they now feel they have an excuse to escalate their behaviour by continually referencing Gaza.

kkloo · 15/12/2025 19:40

Livelovebehappy · 15/12/2025 19:09

There’s a few posts along the lines of ‘well yes, very sad, but this is what happens with the ‘genocide’ situation in Gaza’. That excuses terrorism against Jewish people, implying it’s justified. It sticks in anti semitic’s throats to actually have to express sympathy for the Jews, and they always make sure though that it’s followed by a ‘but’. Thats how they roll…

I don't think anyone is excusing it, but trying to explain it. The alternative is when news stories are reported and everyone just leaves out the context and history behind it.

We had all of that after 9/11, 'oh they just hate us and our way of life' and again with all the homegrown terrorists committing terrorist attacks in Europe. There is often an explanation, that doesn't mean that people think it's justified or that innocent civilians deserve it, but the explanation is often relevant to understanding why something has happened.

Tooobvious · 15/12/2025 19:46

kkloo · 15/12/2025 19:35

The reason they targeted Australian Jews was presumably the obvious answer, the attackers live in Australia themselves.

As I’m sure you know really, that doesn’t answer my question.

You said Extremists generally aren't driven by a hatred based on race or group of people alone, there also tends to be history. So what history is there to make extremists hate any Jews other than possibly those who live in Israel?

NormasArse · 15/12/2025 19:53

Cronte · 15/12/2025 11:27

And all the Free Palestine mob have blood on their hands. They have poured fuel on the fire. Every Jew online gets called a Zionist. Even if they categorically state otherwise. Useful bloody idiots.

Look she comment section of ANY Jew on TikTok. It’s appalling.

Sikhs stand with Jews

Many Muslims also stand with Jews and vice versa.

People are not automatically antisemitic for speaking out against genocide.

kkloo · 15/12/2025 20:01

Tooobvious · 15/12/2025 19:46

As I’m sure you know really, that doesn’t answer my question.

You said Extremists generally aren't driven by a hatred based on race or group of people alone, there also tends to be history. So what history is there to make extremists hate any Jews other than possibly those who live in Israel?

That's not how it works and I'm sure you also know that.

The whole group is seen as a valid target to extremists. It's no different to any other extremist attacks against any other group or nationality. Sure, sometimes they will try for government targets but often they go for civilians.

jeffgoldblum · 15/12/2025 20:02

NormasArse · 15/12/2025 19:53

Many Muslims also stand with Jews and vice versa.

People are not automatically antisemitic for speaking out against genocide.

What is happening in Gaza is not genocide and I’m shocked by how little people know about history and the way phrases are thrown about with no regard for the real meaning.
for the context if you counted every person who has died in Gaza ( not including the Israelis obviously) it would not come even remotely close to half of the numbers of Jews who were exterminated during the holocaust!
that was genocide , the women and children are the victims of war , just as many of the women and children are across the globe in wars happening as we speak!

kkloo · 15/12/2025 20:05

jeffgoldblum · 15/12/2025 20:02

What is happening in Gaza is not genocide and I’m shocked by how little people know about history and the way phrases are thrown about with no regard for the real meaning.
for the context if you counted every person who has died in Gaza ( not including the Israelis obviously) it would not come even remotely close to half of the numbers of Jews who were exterminated during the holocaust!
that was genocide , the women and children are the victims of war , just as many of the women and children are across the globe in wars happening as we speak!

I do have regard for the meaning and it IS a genocide.

It doesn't have to be 6 million people to be considered a genocide.

jeffgoldblum · 15/12/2025 20:10

kkloo · 15/12/2025 20:05

I do have regard for the meaning and it IS a genocide.

It doesn't have to be 6 million people to be considered a genocide.

Do I have to actually give you the definition of genocide? Fair enough! Give me a moment.

calminggreen · 15/12/2025 20:10

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agree with this

during world war 2 even ordinary Germans attempted to help Jews to safety during the holocaust. Not one Gazan attempted to help the October 7th hostages

kkloo · 15/12/2025 20:12

jeffgoldblum · 15/12/2025 20:10

Do I have to actually give you the definition of genocide? Fair enough! Give me a moment.

I'll give you one.

Genocide means the deliberate destruction, in whole or in part, of a national, ethnical, racial, or religious group, encompassing acts like killing, causing serious harm, inflicting deadly living conditions, preventing births, or forcibly transferring children, as defined by the UN Genocide Convention

ArabellaSaurus · 15/12/2025 20:13

mouthpipette · 15/12/2025 19:29

Having read nearly all the thread, I've seen little but revulsion for the murders in the antisemitic attack in Australia.

However some on here are simply saying it didn't happen in isolation, and would probably not have happened had there not been the last 2 years.
Antisemitic attacks have increased since Oct 7.
It is not being a terrorist apologist to try to understand why this has happened.
For a few psychotic, hate filled, prejudiced, sociopaths, Israel's actions have been an excuse for their hate to crystallise and two of them were in Bondi.
The questions are; what drove them and how can similar incidents be prevented. Look forward, not back.

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Perhaps there might be space for a day, even two days, to just say my god, and grieve the people who have lost their lives, without automatically and reflexively feeling the need to refer to a war on the other side of the world?

NorwegianinLondon1 · 15/12/2025 20:15

calminggreen · 15/12/2025 20:10

agree with this

during world war 2 even ordinary Germans attempted to help Jews to safety during the holocaust. Not one Gazan attempted to help the October 7th hostages

How do you know? Israel told you?

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