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DM has gone absolutely nuclear with me about moving away...

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YourWittyLion · 15/12/2025 00:23

Throwaway account for obvious reasons when you read this.... also sorry in advance for the length of my post.. I'm trying not to miss details and hopefully get some none bias opinions!

Sooo where to begin!
My DH & I have been together for over 15 years and for 13 of these we've dreamed of moving down south!
We first discussed our plan with my parents 13 years ago and DM essentially guilted me out of it and made me feel terrible for even considering to leave them! (For the rest of this I'll mostly just refer to DM, as she is the main issue and my dad is a more of a bystander.)
We've revisited the idea in passing with them over the years and have been met with the same response or similar.

Anyway, fast forward to now, me and DH have 3 beautiful DS's. Life is good, but moving down south has become more and more appealing and we're now at a point that we have made a decision that we are going to do it next year... Essentially now or never, before our DS's get to old to want to move etc. We're all very excited about our plans! We have told a few very close friends and my DSis... everyone is understandably upset we're leaving, but overwhelming supportive of our plans!)

My DM admittedly has had a bit of a shit time of late. Her own mum passed away recently (complicated by a drawn out death over many months, a tricky relationship, family fallouts and my mum having childhood trauma from her abusive dad). Additionally my Dad has recently been referred due ro issues with his memory. Nothing formally diagnosed yet, but we're all fairly certain dementia may be the cause.

Me and DH made the decision about moving in late spring before all these issues were apparent. And because of this we haven't been able to tell my DM, in an attempt to try to protect her peace and give her time to process everything and also because we knew from previous responses that she wouldn't be happy about it etc.
Despite my dad's situation, he is aware of what's happening to him currently and has had multiple conversations about living the life I want and not to waste a day, as he has many regrets (not moving away being one of them). So i know that although my dad would be sad, he would be supportive of us following our dream.

Although really not ideal as my DM is still grieving and things with my dad are up in the air, we were forced to tell her about moving, because we're now at a point that we need to start making solid plans and taking steps to achieve the move and I didnt want my DM to be the last to know or to find out from someone else.
Well... we told them and my DM went nuclear!😪
She wanted to know who was going to look after dad when he got worse. I tried to explain that even if we stayed i couldn't offer the level of help she thinks I could. I'm self employed and reliant on my wage to cover our monthly expenses, so dropping work to look after my dad isn't financially possible and also my DS's who are all still very little are my priority.
She said something along the lines of "given the sacrifices she made" to bring me up .... essentially that I'm selfish.
She also threatened that she might as well kill herself and then stormed out of my house.

In all honesty I expected her to be angry and upset, but her response was so unhinged and bewildering I barely said anything and haven't since.

Since this happened she has sent a torrent of messages to my DB ranting and threatening that she & dad might as well kill themselves.
My DSis called them after they refused to reply to my distraught DB to check that they were ok given what she was messaging and DSis also got verbally abused, told that they might as well kill themselves and that she was done with us (presumably me and DSis as she challenged my DM on some of the things she was saying). It also really concerns me that shes using a threat of suicide to emotionally manipulate the situation and drawing my vulnerable dad into this way of thinking too! 💔

So this is now the point that we're at and I dont know what to do!

Just for added context, as i think its relavant, my DM has always been a tricky person (i don't know how else to describe this) and since being a mum myself and assessing my relationships with my mum, I've come to realisation that although she loves me, our relationship is mostly transactional in a sense that she doesnt really bother with me or my DS's unless she needs or wants something and we're not anywhere high on her list of priorities. A bitter pill to swallow, but something that I'm learning to accept.
I've done a lot of self exploring over the last few years to try to figure out if i'm the issue and to address my own shortcomings, but through this I've actually realised due to her upbringing, she is the perfect example of an emotionally immature parent- something she can't help or likely change.
I think in part this is the reason for the way she has responded, but its really difficult to take and I don't know where to go from here as I know I will never "win" or be "right" in her eyes.

Thanks for reading!

OP posts:
Parcell · 15/12/2025 08:23

Your parents have lived their life and made their choices. You have to live yours and do what is best for
your family. Not end up full of regrets.

My mum has been threatening suicide as long as I can remember. It’s another form of emotional blackmail. I just ignore her and don’t react or engage.

You are not responsible for your DF’s care if his dementia becomes worse. I would ensure your mum contacts Age Concern or similar at an early stage, as accessing any sort of support is a battle.

sydi · 15/12/2025 08:24

The only thing you've done wrong is not moving 13 years ago. She's going to be even more difficult to stand up to now. But she can't physically stop you from going, so just do it.

And as for the posters wondering why you want to move down south - I'm from the North and love it, but everyone feels a gut instinct draw to certain places, and if your gut is telling you that the South is the place for you, then go live there. Can you imagine how much you'll regret it if you don't?

JustPeter · 15/12/2025 08:28

DBD1975 · 15/12/2025 08:17

Why do you think I have a burden of guilt?
You know nothing about me and my life.
I have an opinion as do you, you are entitled to your selfish, harsh views and I am entitled to mine.
My views go against the populist view of think about yourself, live your own life and basically don't care about anyone else. I believe this sums up everything which is wrong with the world today, others think differently and that is absolutely fine, but I don't have to agree with it.

What? I don't think you have a burden of guilt. Nothing in your post makes me think you feel guilty. I do think you're putting a burden of guilt on the OP because you're seeing their situation through your historic choices and relationships.

As I said, I hope you chose to look after your parent because it was the right decision for you and them. I hope they were a wonderful parent to you and I hope that providing care to them wasn't an awful burden on you.

But your experience of your parent (who fingers crossed wasn't selfish, narcissistic, manipulative etc) will not be the same as the OPs experience of their mother. By speaking about providing care and support in the way you have done without acknowledgement of their parent's behaviour you pile guilt on the OP. They do not have a normal or emotionally healthy mother

luckylavender · 15/12/2025 08:29

ThisAutumnTown · 15/12/2025 00:39

Call her bluff and ring an ambulance/the police. Tell them that you’d like them to do a welfare check as she’s threatening suicide.
I bet she’ll be so mortified, she’ll stop using it as a way to manipulate you.

With regards to everything else, you live one life so do what you want to do. As you said, your children come first so if you think this is the best thing for them, do it.

Please don’t waste ambulance time on this.

flowertoday · 15/12/2025 08:31

Threatening suicide is a really unpleasant attempt at extreme emotional manipulation. Your DM should be ashamed of herself.
Your parents have their lives and have made their choices. You and your siblings can only offer the care and support that is possible and practicable for you. None of you are responsible for caring for your dad.
Do what is best for you and your family. Move or you will regret it xx

rookiemere · 15/12/2025 08:31

Go absolutely, nothing worse than being an unwilling carer or shouldering the guilt that you could do more but simply don’t want to, so good to geographically remove yourself.But you are being naive to think your DM wouldn’t have kicked off, caring for someone with dementia is horrific and worse if she has just finished caring for her own DM.

Sorry you can see I am a bit overly focused on the care element as having been unwillingly thrust into this position with my DPs and as an only DC there is no escape, I wouldn’t wish it on anybody.

rainbowstardrops · 15/12/2025 08:33

I imagine your mum is being influenced by her recent bereavement and worry about your dad but that doesn’t give her the right to treat you as she has.
How far away will you be from them?

GottaBeStrong · 15/12/2025 08:34

YourWittyLion · 15/12/2025 01:22

@HoppingPavlova I know....
Until very recently, I've had a very odd view of the role my DM has in my life, seeking approval and wanting to people please. I was always a good girl, did as I was told, didnt upset DM! Its only now that I'm a mum myself that I've realised how f*** up that was!
Recovering people pleaser here! 🙋‍♀️

You might find this book helpful:

Dr. Karyl McBride
Will I Ever Be Good Enough?: Healing the Daughters of Narcissistic Mothers

LowkeyLoco · 15/12/2025 08:35

OP you really need to look into why you have allowed your mother to dictate where you, your husband and your family live for 15 years because I’ll be honest-if I was your husband I would never have put up with my wife’s mother deciding what I do with my life. You are prioritising your mother’s needs over your own family’s needs and that is not acceptable.

Your mother will not change, so you need to change how you respond to her. And I agree with all the PPs that have said the next time she threatens suicide you need to contact the police.

luckylavender · 15/12/2025 08:35

For those of you questioning the OP on why she wants to move. It’s none of your business & irrelevant

LowkeyLoco · 15/12/2025 08:36

rainbowstardrops · 15/12/2025 08:33

I imagine your mum is being influenced by her recent bereavement and worry about your dad but that doesn’t give her the right to treat you as she has.
How far away will you be from them?

So what was her mother being influenced by for the 14 years before that? Selfish people are selfish full stop, it just so happens that her mother now has an excuse for her behaviour.

BlueLegume · 15/12/2025 08:37

@YourWittyLion please make the move. If you head over to the Elderly Parents thread there are thread after thread of parents manipulating their adult children to guilt trip them into elder care. I have no issue with us all helping our elderly parents to some extent but it becomes a slippery slope if you are not careful. In terms of any expectation of caring for a parent with any diagnosis the only person who makes the decision about stepping up to do the caring is you. Not your mother.

Choose living with the guilt of moving over the resentment of staying to appease your mother’s unreasonable response. In terms of her mentioning suicide, could you contact her GP just to log the fact she has said this out loud?

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HappyFace2025 · 15/12/2025 08:38

ChristmasRobinFly · 15/12/2025 00:48

That’s genius idea
call her bluff

op go you’ve got one life

No it isn't. That's a cruel thing to do and a waste of police time. Her mum is threatening suicide as she lashes out. People who take their own lives rarely tell anyone before doing so.
Meanwhile I agree with PP, OP should continue with her plans to move south.

3luckystars · 15/12/2025 08:38

You will hundreds of replies here, but please listen to mine : get out of town, fast.

Even if she enlists your entire family and everyone you know to do a war dance, and even if she actually acquires a nuclear weapon, just leave, now and don’t look back,

Go now or it will get worse.

Daisymay8 · 15/12/2025 08:39

Where is the north and where is down south - Inverness to Kent?? Birmingham to Oxford? If she is a short train ride away not so bad.

3luckystars · 15/12/2025 08:40

Also read: ‘you are not the problem’ by Helen Villers and Katie McKenny. Treat yourself to this book for Christmas and start the rest of your life away from this. Good luck x

Mapletree1985 · 15/12/2025 08:40

Christmas2025 · 15/12/2025 00:38

Bloody narcissist. Sorry you're experiencing the rage OP. No, you don't owe her because she decided to have a child. No, being self-employed doesn't equal being available to be on-call 24/7 like she thinks. No, it's not selfish to decide you don't want to be a carer for a dementia patient or a mother with attitude, when her time comes. No, she doesn't own you and can't decide how you live your life. It's highly unlikely she'll kill herself either OP, it's an attempt at manipulation, common with these folks. You can call the police for a welfare check if you've any actual concerns.

Edited

And even if she does end her own life, she's an adult making her own choices. It's not your responsibility, OP.

Mapletree1985 · 15/12/2025 08:43

Every time I read threads like this, it reassures me that my decision to end my own life when the time comes, rather than turn into a burden for my children, is the right one.

3luckystars · 15/12/2025 08:44

Those saying they gladly looked after their parent, well lucky you if you have a lovely parent. Some parents are not lovely, some are users that will stamp all over you to get their way.

Nutcrackerjacks · 15/12/2025 08:44

echt · 15/12/2025 08:18

Why are MPs querying @YourWittyLion's long=planned, thought-out and deliberate decision to move south?
It's. Not.The. Point.

Exactly. It’s so silly to focus on that.

Moel · 15/12/2025 08:44

echt · 15/12/2025 08:18

Why are MPs querying @YourWittyLion's long=planned, thought-out and deliberate decision to move south?
It's. Not.The. Point.

Well it kind of is. The Op may be being vague on details to protect anonymity plus the mother sounds way out of line however, if there is no compelling pull factor to go south and there are some really obvious negatives, house prices being one, childcare costs and availability being a second and losing a support network being a third, then it could be perceived that the OP is leaving the people not the place. Throw in the circumstances and it seems like an odd choice and odd timing. If the OP had a job opportunity or family in ‘the south’ it would make more sense.

BlueLegume · 15/12/2025 08:44

In terms of you being self employed so considered more available I am retired from my main career and one of my siblings and his partner have assumed I have nothing to do all day. what they didn’t bother to find out is that I am busy running a small business art related and that is time consuming. I genuinely think you just make the move. I love the fact all of my children have flown the nest and discovered the wider world. They are interesting people to have around and I get to visit them. It is not your responsibility to make your mother happy.

Ooopsyididit · 15/12/2025 08:47

Stick to your plan OP!
Your mother sounds just like mine, its quite strange isn't it. They way they manipulate to get their own way. My mother did the same when I was moving 10 minutes away! Its no way for you to live toxic family can really bring you down.
Keep focused on your sons and your goals.
Take care and good luck!
💐