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To tell them not to bother coming for Xmas?

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WantToHibernate · 08/12/2025 07:54

We are doing Xmas dinner this year for my husbands family and my mum and brother. We have a mix of vegans, vegetarians and meat eaters so dinner menu will reflect this.

I’ve been vegan for 20 years and my daughter who is 17 has become vegan this year. My husband and other child eat meat.

My mother and brother have always disapproved of me being vegan. Over the years they’ve told me I’m wrong and will be ill. They also do stupid things like make animal noises when they eat meat which I just roll my eyes at. Now they’ve found out, whilst discussing Xmas dinner menus at our house this weekend, that my daughter has become vegan and they’ve responded as expected, telling her she’ll be ill, that she shouldn’t listen to me ‘brainwashing and bullying’ her, quizzing her on why she has become vegan, telling her she’s mad and no better than them. My daughter remained calm, said it was her decision, that I obviously haven’t bullied or brainwashed her, that she doesn’t think she’s any better than anyone else, she just wants to be vegan. When they continued were quiz her on why she has become a vegan, they called her a ‘typical preachy vegan’. She wasn’t preaching, she just answered their questions.

Things got heated as my mother started shouting. I told her that she doesn’t get to shout at my daughter in our house about this, and that if they both don’t stop the comments they can leave and not bother coming for Xmas. My brother said our mum can say what she likes and that I owed my mum an apology for saying that. My daughter left the room. My son told my mum and brother that they were out of line and went to check on my daughter. My mum and brother left.

My brother text later on to say that when they come on Xmas day they don’t want to be seated by me or my daughter. I’ve not responded as I wanted to cool down before I did, but my husband has said to just uninvited them because they’re arseholes and he’s not risking them upsetting our daughter on Xmas day. My daughter says she isn’t bothered and thinks they’re idiots.

If I uninvite them, I think that will probably be the end of my relationships with them but I think that is possibly for the best. There have been lots of problems with them over the years and I think we may be happier without them. They have had issues with other aspects of our life, choices we’ve made, my husbands family (who are all lovely) who they see as ‘snobby’, so the vegan issue is just another thing. They are ok is small doses. My other siblings have low or no contact with them and although I invited them to dinner too, they won’t come because our mother and brother are coming.

OP posts:
moderate · 10/12/2025 13:30

What a wonderful set of updates, @WantToHibernate; I genuinely have tears in my eyes. It sounds really hopeful for your younger brother to be able to extricate himself as the rest of you have done. Congratulations for breaking the cycle, and I wish you all the merriest of Christmases.

Bayroot1 · 10/12/2025 13:49

saraclara · 10/12/2025 13:05

Thank you so much for updating. What an amazing bunch of siblings you are, and congratulations on becoming such great adults, when you had such a poor role model.

I was thinking the same thing

Winterwonderwhy · 10/12/2025 14:11

ACatNamedRobin · 08/12/2025 07:59

The fact that your other siblings aren't coming because of them says it all.
Join your other siblings and drop the toxic two.

This. How dare they!

Winterwonderwhy · 10/12/2025 14:16

Just saw the update and I think you have such a wonderful family op. Really good supportive siblings, dh and kids. It will be ok.

Donsyb · 10/12/2025 16:31

Uninvited them and invite your other siblings instead

TickyBooo · 11/12/2025 02:51

They're already making Christmas Day awkward by making requests on where to be seated due to a confrontation, so it's almost guaranteed if they come they'll stick to this demand and will hold onto the 'grudge'. You can almost preempt that the day won't go well and somehow this situation will be brought up and your children, and you, will be made to feel awkward in your own home.

Ive got a toxic family and finally cut ties with them a few years back. Not suggesting you take that massive leap, but boundaries is a good start, and I can promise you once you do that, it is empowering to take control. Don't let them ruin your day and I'd listen to those around you that you trust (husband, kids, other siblings).

Best of luck, it's not easy.

Spiltcof · 11/12/2025 06:52

Wow in the two days since the Op started the thread…. A seismic shift in a situation that has been ongoing for decades!

Newgirls · 11/12/2025 17:45

Well done op - it sometimes takes the abuse of our kids to be able to break the cycle.

it wasn’t about the vegan food. It could have been the gates, the car, the carpet … it was about control and being jealous.

so glad you have a good relationship with your siblings - I hope you manage to keep that going

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