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AIBU for feeling left out?

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CobhamMummy2008and2012 · 07/12/2025 12:28

Hello everyone I’ve been reading Mumsnet for years (literally since I was pregnant with DD1 in 2007!) but this is my very first time posting so please be kind…
One of my closest friends (known her since university) is getting married next year and last night the hen-do WhatsApp group popped up… except I’m not in it. It’s a spa weekend in the Cotswolds for 12 of her “favourite girls” and apparently I didn’t make the cut.
We’ve had playdates, been on holiday together, I hosted her baby shower, the whole lot. She’s already asked me to do a reading at the wedding so I thought we were properly close. I bumped into another friend this morning who’s going and she let slip it’s £450 each not including treatments.
I’m gutted and embarrassed and feel like I’ve been demoted to second-tier friend. DH says I’m overthinking it and these things are always about money/numbers but I can’t help feeling hurt.
AIBU to be this upset about a hen do? Or should I just smile and pretend I don’t know?
TIA and sorry for the essay on my first post!

OP posts:
inigomontoyahwillcox · 09/12/2025 09:12

I have a friend who is an absolute liability when she is drunk. It got to the point when we were dragging her up the stairs to bed after a night out in front of her kids (who got up due to the commotion). She's now emigrated so I'm not sure if she's calmed down or not, I really hope so. Anyway, if I was getting married I'd have thought twice about inviting her to the hen do, even though I'm very fond of her.

NoisyViewer · 09/12/2025 09:13

Alwaytired44 · 09/12/2025 08:45

It doesn’t add up to me that she would ask you to do a reading if you’re a wild drunk at events, surely there’s a chance you’ll be pissed before the ceremony. That’s a risky move asking you to do a reading and so to me, it doesn’t add up!! X

That’s assuming she has a drink problem. I don’t think she has. I think the issue is how she behaves when she’s had a drink. The speeches are usually done before any heavy drinking takes place.

Apocketfilledwithposies · 09/12/2025 09:38

Agree with everyone else and glad you are taking it on board.
It sounds like your friend does value you, and is being honest - I'd thank her for being honest I think, and tell her you have taken it on board so she knows how you're feeling after her telling you the reason.

Sharingmythoughts · 09/12/2025 09:40

what happened to boozy nights out on the town wearing a veil having a dance and a meal? That’s too expensive

crocodilesandwich · 09/12/2025 09:50

You’ve taken this all very graciously OP. It’s never nice to be confronted with how your behaviour impacts others. Good luck finding a healthier relationship with alcohol going forward x

Alwaytired44 · 09/12/2025 09:51

NoisyViewer · 09/12/2025 09:13

That’s assuming she has a drink problem. I don’t think she has. I think the issue is how she behaves when she’s had a drink. The speeches are usually done before any heavy drinking takes place.

Not at my wedding! We got married at 1pm then had an open bar until the meal and speeches at 4:30. Many people had had a skin full by then but thankfully everyone was well behaved.

dreamiesformolly · 09/12/2025 09:52

Boringmel · 09/12/2025 08:33

Perhaps I’m over-suspicious but the offering of the probable reason, the acknowledgement of the problem and the chastened attitude and vows of change have all happened remarkably easily and quickly imo…

Really? What would be the point of OP fabricating all this, unless you're thinking reverse? (FWIW, OP's not coming across that way to me.)

Enigma54 · 09/12/2025 09:52

MoveOnTheCards · 07/12/2025 12:58

After your updates @CobhamMummy2008and2012 I bet your ‘letting your hair down and singing’ is just too much and you’re a pita when drunk! That will be why if they’re planning on going to a pretty spendy / nice spa.

Yes I’m inclined to agree.

Hate say it OP, but you can’t get hammered and make an exhibition, if you are having a quiet spa day.

anonymousparent · 09/12/2025 09:53

I have some friends I don't want at my wedding as they are a bad drunk. I love them, but I don't like them when they are drunk and they aren't capable of exercising restraint despite being adults.

Boringmel · 09/12/2025 09:58

dreamiesformolly · 09/12/2025 09:52

Really? What would be the point of OP fabricating all this, unless you're thinking reverse? (FWIW, OP's not coming across that way to me.)

Unfortunately some people apparently get pleasure from inventing a problem and seeing how many readers fall for it. I’m not saying the OP is one of those sad people, just that it seemed to me that she supplied the answer herself surprisingly quickly.

Finaly · 09/12/2025 10:01

Blizzardofleaves · 09/12/2025 05:25

I think there were kinder ways your friend could have let you know, and done xo discreetly. Choosing to leave you out of her hen party without talking to you first was actually very mean.

I posted earlier in the thread to say she was brave and honest, but actually I think the way she did it was humiliating and cruel.

A problem with drinking excessively is usually rooted in trauma and it is a coping strategy, there will be reasons why op feels like she drinks, and I imagine she can access counselling to look into it now. As well as GP support if she needs it, I am sorry your friend has done this, I imagine you are very hurt.

Yes I agree with this. She could have spoken to you about it rather than just exclude you.

Clychaugog · 09/12/2025 10:01

I'm going to be Devils advocate

It's really bloody hard to organise a limited numbers hen do. Been there. It's inevitable that some people won't 'make the cut' who feel they should have done.

Tbh, when I got a snarky message from someone who was annoyed at not getting an invite, my immediate reaction was 'oh, fuck off' and I didn't see much of them after that.

dreamiesformolly · 09/12/2025 10:04

Boringmel · 09/12/2025 09:58

Unfortunately some people apparently get pleasure from inventing a problem and seeing how many readers fall for it. I’m not saying the OP is one of those sad people, just that it seemed to me that she supplied the answer herself surprisingly quickly.

Hmm. I've seen the phenomenon you describe too on here, lots of times - it definitely exists but if OP was doing this, she didn't leave much time for the part where people fell for it, so it'd seem like a lot of wasted typing for not much 'payout'. I got the impression (rightly or wrongly) that OP had possibly been evaluating her drinking and had been coming to a conclusion about it already, and that the thread was confirming her suspicions. I could be wrong obviously, but that's my take.

Ukefluke · 09/12/2025 10:04

CobhamMummy2008and2012 · 07/12/2025 13:12

Knowing my hubby, he'll tell me I can only have one G and T!

I don't blame him. Who wants to cringe through a wedding reception with an embarrassing spouse?

CelestialCandyfloss · 09/12/2025 10:13

I'd be glad I wasn't having to spend £450 on someone else's do LOL. I wouldn't be keen on doing a reading at someone's wedding either unless I was very close.

QuietComet · 09/12/2025 10:18

CobhamMummy2008and2012 · 07/12/2025 13:15

Oh yeah, I told him where to go when he asked me not to drink on his birthday. But I know how he is.

Poor guy probably just wanted an enjoyable evening on his birthday. I'd have told him where to go if it was MY birthday, but would have respected his wishes on HIS birthday, and probably thought seriously about why he had to ask.

It sounds like your friend may not want to be upstaged on her own hen do.

Mangelwurzelfortea · 09/12/2025 10:19

This happened to me - someone I considered a really close friend, one of the people in whom I confided that I was eloping, she gave me my 'something borrowed', she was one of the first people I told when I got pregnant, I drove across the country to look after her when her marriage broke up etc etc. Anyway, she got married again and didn't tell me, let alone invite me. I found out about it on Facebook. To add insult to injury, it took place in a fancy hotel about 5 miles from where I live. I could have understood if it was a small wedding and they couldn't afford lots of people, but not even to invite me to the hen do hurt a lot. She came to mine - and my sister's!

I'm afraid it ended that friendship. It just seemed pointless continuing a friendship knowing that I didn't really mean anything to her. She's reached out a few times since and I've just fobbed her off, rather than saying anything and causing drama. I won't see her again.

ETA I've read the whole thread now and it's clearly about something very different! Dancing on tables had nothing to do with my situation! Ah well. Good luck to the OP with cutting back on the booze.

Sunflower459 · 09/12/2025 10:24

NoisyViewer · 09/12/2025 05:15

Whilst he shouldn’t dictate to her he is the one that has to look after her when she’s in this wild & annoying state. Whilst my h doesn’t do it everytime he’s out he is a very annoying when he’s drunk & it completely ruins my night when he gets in that state. If I see him downing beers like pop when he’s with a certain group of mates it definitely dictates my night. I have to slow down myself b/c I know at the end I’m the one up all night dealing with him.

Yes. I have clarified that I meant it was up to OP to know and police her own limits. I should perhaps have worded my original comment more specifically.

Sunflower459 · 09/12/2025 10:26

HerNeighbourTotoro · 09/12/2025 06:06

Seeing the update, it seems maybe the husband was right.

I have clarified that I meant it was up to OP to know and police her own limits. She also seemed to think I thought her husband was being unreasonable, so clearly I should have been more specific.

Sunflower459 · 09/12/2025 10:28

euff · 09/12/2025 06:12

It’s isn’t on him but maybe he dreads dealing with the fallout. To not be invited on a hen because of her behaviour when drunk does imply it’s really, really bad.

Yep. I clarified this. My point was that the OP should know and police her own limits, not her husband. It quite literally isn’t up to him.

Sunflower459 · 09/12/2025 10:32

Howwilliknow122 · 09/12/2025 08:21

Dont do that....
Hes allowed to tell her one drink only if shes a nightmare when drunk as op is putting it, if they are at a friend's wedding!! Not everything is about a man trying to control a woman, sometimes its just about having some common sense and trying to look out for your partner.

Yes. I explained this up thread. My point was that it’s up to OP to make this decision, not her husband. It literally isn’t up to him. It’s her responsibility. At no point have I claimed that ‘everything is about a man trying to control a woman’. I mean, there’s a whole world of things that are about that, but in this case it’s not pertinent.

itbemay1 · 09/12/2025 10:33

Ohnobackagain · 07/12/2025 13:51

@CobhamMummy2008and2012 I don’t think she’s unreasonable to have concerns but she really ought to have been up front with you BEFORE some shit stirrer spilled the beans and you found out second hand and had to ask …

I agree! How hurtful! Also she could have invited you and asked you to reign it in a bit.

MrsDoubtingMyself · 09/12/2025 10:42

What a strange thread. Tbh I don't understand why you've been invited to the after wedding. Perhaps she thinks your DH will control you? Maybe she's had a chat with him?

You're not really intending to quit the booze are you OP?

No. I didn't think so.

Perhaps consider getting some help from the GP or AA?

Pukkajones · 09/12/2025 11:04

CobhamMummy2008and2012 · 07/12/2025 13:50

Thank you all for kicking me up the bum, I'll take this on board.

OP - we had a friend who is/was a nightmare drunk and we just don’t see her much and no longer invite her to things. No-one wants to have to manage an out of control drunk.

I say this with kindness - don’t wait until Dry January STOP drinking right now.
forever seems daunting I’m sure but start with a target of 30 days, or 50 days or 100 days. Your life will change immeasurably if you can give yourself that 100 day target then ‘see’ what happens after that.

BillieWiper · 09/12/2025 11:08

Gawd that is embarrassing. It's a shame she didn't tell you they felt that way before. Like while it was happening. As it stands you seem to think it's all fun and games the way you are when drunk. So this must be a bit of a shock.

I guess you really do need to take a long look at your relationship with alcohol and maybe try and reign in your behaviour. The more times they see you can drink and still be reasonable, the more they'll want you around at things.

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