To say that most people in the UK want illegal immigration to stop

[Sleepysleepycoffeecoffee]

I recently commented on a Facebook post to say the majority of British people are against illegal immigration. I was asked by several other users what survey I based that opinion on. I responded with the question ‘do you think most people want illegal immigration to continue then? Because if not, then surely they want it to stop?’ I didn’t receive any responses to that.
Without getting into any political arguments or name calling and giving no ifs, buts or reasons for your view, please vote as follows.

YABU - I want illegal immigration to continue.
YANBU - I don’t want illegal immigration to continue.

Would you host a male who wasn’t a refugee? The local born and bred here, homeless man who sits in front of Tesco's drinking all day?

I doubt anyone would host a male they don’t know, refugee or not.

I do believe they enforce it and try and get it to be 70% western? They have these laws on "parallel societies".

We should deport anyone who is here illegally.or has no right to be here. I am not sure why this is controversial at all.

Further, we should minimise legal migration an integrate those that are here.

Because I know people who go in there specifically for drugs and I also know a few who’ve been raided and drugs and illegal workers have been found there. We’ve also had a few car washes raided because illegal workers were reported to be there. You have to be very naive to see these as genuine, it’s pure money laundering.

Agree with this.

As for tbe point of going through another safe country but choosing to come to the UK - reasons might include having family already in the UK, being able to speak English but not French, German etc, having qualifications that are recognised in the UK but not in the safe country you arrived in, having skills that are in demand on the UK,, already a large community from the person's country with a good support network for new arrivals.

I do want illegal immigration to reduce but possibky not for the same reasons as others. I worry we are 'hollowing out' the countries these people come from as the majority of people coming are young and male - just the type of people these countries need to get back on their feet and become places where the young want to stay. I worry these countries, Afghanistan, Sudan, Somalia etc will be forever countries of conflict and hopelessness and the pull of stable Western countries will be ongoing. Something has to change, put simply their host countries need them, it just seems we have accepted war, conflict and the endless misery of people wanting to migrate.
I have no solutions to solving the situations in these war torn countries - western intervention in Afghanistan has proved its 'graveyard of nations' label. But I do feel if anything is to improve for citizens, these countries need their young people.

I agree with you @Sleepysleepycoffeecoffee but I’m not in the UK. Now the UK is attempting to get your house in order with regards to immigration we are likely to see an increase where I am from.

My personal definition of illegal migration is where you enter a country illegally and then spuriously try to claim asylum based on made up bullshit.

I have just been around a case where a person has lied about his age, reduced it by 6 years to be under age, his country of origin and has made up BS about just himself and his brother surviving a horrendous war in his home country, which is actually not his home country. Almost every one of his extended family lives where I am, mother, brothers, father, aunts, uncles, cousins and he is a complete scammer, I don’t know the basis for his family members visas. He has more relatives where I’m from than I do and he has used that family network to exert intimidation on victims of his crimes.

He is here after being granted asylum and this all just came out because of his criminal activities here.

It is absolutely impossible for authorities to figure out which are the scammers and which are the genuine asylum seekers.

But yes 100% I do not support illegal immigration. I personally think the current system of asylum is being massively abused across Europe and the situation is at crisis point.

Thank you. I also feel the whole thing boat crossings. It's basically illegal migration. They don't have their passports. They don't have a visa and are not showing their documents to the border guards are they.

Perhaps you should move there, or 1930s Germany, would be right up your street.

It is not illegal to claim asylum.

So you have details on the ownership of all Turkish barbers in your area and the details of everybody who enters into them and why they go in?

Ok

That is a completely unreasonable comment and it is frankly lazy.

You don’t just get to shout out comments calling people Nazis because they disagree with you.

In case you need reminding calling people Nazis for thinking something different to you is against MNs talk guidelines.

Immigration is a nuanced situation and it is an extremely minority view that illegal immigration should be allowed without limitations.

It’s impossible to enforce (to be clear you can attempt this for those using public housing - but can do nothing in the private housing market.)

How do you stop “western” people moving from an area once “non-western” people move in?

And what is “western”. What is the criteria?

Let's all chip in and send her/him to Paris - permanently .
She/He doesn't realise this country actually needs migrants for to do certain skills as we don't have enough people trained here.

I had a bit of a read. My statement was not showing the whole story. It's mostly targeted at social housing. But I think it's fine for the Danish government to want to promote integration.

If you have evidence that this person has lied to the UK Immigration authorities, then you should send them evidence. He would then be reassessed and if found to have lied, deported .

He can’t be deported yet because as I said he is in the middle of the criminal justice system for his crimes he got to commit here because he lied about everything to do with his asylum case. Hopefully he can be deported once that has finished in the system.

The poll result speaks for itself and reflects the general consensus in the country.

Sounds lovely:

https://theconversation.com/denmarks-uprooting-of-settled-residents-from-ghettos-forms-part-of-aggressive-plan-to-assimilate-nonwhite-inhabitants-243424

Denmark’s ‘ghetto package’
Denmark’s radical housing policy is years in the making. In 2010, the country’s authorities began compiling lists of “non-Western,” immigrant-majority neighborhoods that were failing to live up to set standards on lawfulness, employment, income and education levels. Areas that fell short in two of the four of these criteria were officially labeled “ghettos,” or “tough ghettos” if they fell short of more than two criteria.
While these neighborhoods are home to people with a diverse range of ethnic backgrounds, they are marked by having more than half of residents with backgrounds in non-Western nations, including Syria, Iraq and Somalia.
Areas with “Western” majorities that failed the same standards were labeled “vulnerable areas” in contrast to the “non-Western” ghetto
In 2018, the social democratic Danish government launched the “Ghetto Package,” a legislative program aimed at breaking up the “ghetto” neighborhoods – and the social fabrics that sustain them. The package did not entail the same measures for “vulnerable areas.”
Proposals to this end consisted of reducing public housing to no more than 40% of total housing in the neighborhoods and measures to encourage white, wealthier residents to move in.
As a result of the initiative, thousands of people have been displaced and removed from their family homes through sales, demolitions and forced evictions. Some of the homes were renovated while awaiting new tenants, while others were sold to private investors who planned on raising rents by more than 50%. Evicted residents are typically offered alternative accommodation in public housing in other parts of the city or region, but with no control over location or cost.
Denmark’s assimilation program does not stop at the breaking up of low-income, predominantly immigrant neighborhoods. Children born into “non-Western” families in state-designated ghettos must attend special programs for a minimum of 25 hours per week beginning at the age of 1, designed to immerse them in “Danish values,” including Christian holidays and Danish language education. Parents are not allowed to accompany them.
In addition, the program also wants to turn “ghettos” into “harsh penalty zones” in which crimes can be penalized twice as severely.
Residents and other critics of the package of measures argue that the designation of “non-Western” in practice means “nonwhite” or “Muslim,” pointing out the fact that non-Europeans such as Australians and New Zealanders are excluded from the criteria, and that Ukrainian refugees fleeing the Russian invasion in 2022 were permitted to move into social housing that “non-Westerners” had been forced to leave.

Moreover, being a naturalized Danish citizen or Danish-born does not count as being Western for people of color; nonwhite, second-generation immigrants are formally considered non-Western under the program, implying a race-based criteria of belonging

I think if you read the trolls posts you'd realise that there is no such nuance. And if you think that suggesting you want to pay to live in an area segregated from non white people is safe rhetoric and not at all the type of thing being discussed a hundred years ago, then you are very naive.

I actually don’t have an issue with the classes on Danish values.

But it should be for all migrants. Not non-whites (Danish or not.)

I agree, everyone is surely against illegal migration. I didn't vote because I don't think that is what the op actually means, as they clarified in a later comment.

I agree. I think this thread also shows a very interesting phenomenon about how loud the minority voices who represent the opposing views on this issue are.

Has anyone on this thread said that they are pro illegal immigration?

I didn’t vote because the options don’t allow for a nuanced view.