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To say that most people in the UK want illegal immigration to stop

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Sleepysleepycoffeecoffee · 06/12/2025 10:12

I recently commented on a Facebook post to say the majority of British people are against illegal immigration. I was asked by several other users what survey I based that opinion on. I responded with the question ‘do you think most people want illegal immigration to continue then? Because if not, then surely they want it to stop?’ I didn’t receive any responses to that.
Without getting into any political arguments or name calling and giving no ifs, buts or reasons for your view, please vote as follows.

YABU - I want illegal immigration to continue.
YANBU - I don’t want illegal immigration to continue.

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OmNomShiva · 09/12/2025 17:39

CatFatigue · 09/12/2025 16:14

I really hope you're lobbying your mp to take more asylum seekers into your local area. Please please do. You can't put a number on the figure, so I'm sure you'd be happy to take the majority. Get your neighbours on board and make the push for hundreds of hmos in your residential streets. The rest of us can carry on with being ' ignorant, bigoted and stupid'. Everyone's a winner.

What figure “can’t I put a number on” ?

To say that most people in the UK want illegal immigration to stop
OmNomShiva · 09/12/2025 17:41

Fluffyholeysocks · 09/12/2025 15:54

Indeed, never let it be said that you don't listen to other people's POV without resorting to insults.

Which insults ?

5MinuteArgument · 09/12/2025 17:48

OmNomShiva · 09/12/2025 17:41

Which insults ?

Arguments like yours, condescending and superior, do far more to turn people against illegal immigration than any speech by Robinson or Farage. Well done.

OmNomShiva · 09/12/2025 17:51

5MinuteArgument · 09/12/2025 17:48

Arguments like yours, condescending and superior, do far more to turn people against illegal immigration than any speech by Robinson or Farage. Well done.

What is condescending about considering the big picture ?

What is superior about recognising how this is a complex situation driven by our own choices, and one we cannot ignore or run away from ?

Should I just go yell at a hotel ? Would that help ?

MollyMollyMandy33 · 09/12/2025 17:58

Parker231 · 06/12/2025 11:08

Migrants awaiting for their claim to be assessed are not allowed to work so aren’t taking jobs from anyone.

It’s well known that a lot of migrants do work illegally. More the fault of people who exploit them, but either way, there is known to be a huge illegal economy, worth billions.

CatFatigue · 09/12/2025 18:05

OmNomShiva · 09/12/2025 17:39

What figure “can’t I put a number on” ?

A photo?! What are you trying to say? Don't be coy.

poetryandwine · 09/12/2025 18:10

MyArmsAreTooLong · 09/12/2025 17:13

Labour scrapped it just as it was about to happen.

What exactly did they scrap? To what country were asylum seekers going to be sent?

EasternStandard · 09/12/2025 18:11

OmNomShiva · 09/12/2025 17:41

Which insults ?

Idk why but you tend to react a bit to questions about higher population.

suburburban · 09/12/2025 18:11

5MinuteArgument · 09/12/2025 15:55

Our moral obligation is to protect our own people and protect our borders. We need to to set up off shore processing, like Australia.

We can help other countries with our foreign aid budget. But to accept thousands of undocumented males, resentful because we 'meddled' in their home counties, is completely crazy.

tot

why are these people more worthy than the people who live here

Clavinova · 09/12/2025 18:16

Alexandra2001
We have had many very successful sports people who have come here, wasn't Mo Salah an asylum seeker?

I think you mean Mo Farah (runner) - not Mo Salah (Egyptian footballer).
Mo Farah was trafficked into the UK aged 9 to work as a domestic servant.

Badenoch, now, wouldn't be allowed to stay, much less get citizenship, her mother was a health tourist, who came only to give birth, back then giving KB citizenship.
That then allowed her father to come here, though they preferred Nigeria, so lived there for many years.
She now wants people like her parents to be sent back, no matter where they come from, women and children would also be sent back, no exceptions.

I couldn't find anything to suggest that Kemi Badenoch's father lived in the UK? Badenoch spent part of her childhood in the United States where her mother worked as a lecturer. Badenoch's father was a GP - even Reform have said they would allow health professionals to apply for visas/stay in the UK.

EasternStandard · 09/12/2025 18:19

poetryandwine · 09/12/2025 18:10

What exactly did they scrap? To what country were asylum seekers going to be sent?

@MyArmsAreTooLongis correct. Labour scrapped it on getting in. It’s all there if you have a read.

Clavinova · 09/12/2025 18:19

OmNomShiva
we spend £10bn on free prescriptions for over 60s in England alone

I think that's an estimate of total spend - not just for the over 60s.

poetryandwine · 09/12/2025 18:40

EasternStandard · 09/12/2025 18:19

@MyArmsAreTooLongis correct. Labour scrapped it on getting in. It’s all there if you have a read.

What country then? I provide lots of detail and sourcing and would like the courtesy returned

I see no country mentioned in what I can find. This may be for the most obvious of reasons

poetryandwine · 09/12/2025 18:42

EasternStandard · 09/12/2025 18:19

@MyArmsAreTooLongis correct. Labour scrapped it on getting in. It’s all there if you have a read.

Or if you mean Labour scrapped the Rwanda plan, possibly we can put that down to the Supreme Court ruling. The SC has every right to forbid actions.

HoneyParsnipSoup · 09/12/2025 18:49

Who cares what decisions Kemi’s parents made? It’s hardly her fault. Some of my family do things that I wouldn’t mind being regulated by the government.

EasternStandard · 09/12/2025 18:50

poetryandwine · 09/12/2025 18:42

Or if you mean Labour scrapped the Rwanda plan, possibly we can put that down to the Supreme Court ruling. The SC has every right to forbid actions.

It’s this. Legislation overruled the court and it could go ahead. This isn’t disputed. Your post isn’t a correct summary.

Starmer scrapped it on the first day for ‘smash the gangs’ approach.

5MinuteArgument · 09/12/2025 19:01

We do need to set up some kind of off-shore processing like Australia, because once the illegal migrants are here the activist lawyers will make sure they stay.

I heard a lawyer on the radio crowing about how he had successfully enabled 2 sex offenders to stay in the UK. The lawyers know the system and they will do everything they can to enable their clients to stay.

5MinuteArgument · 09/12/2025 19:04

Also with off shore processing, failed asylum seekers don't get the chance to dissappear into the grey economy.

LakieLady · 09/12/2025 19:14

Whywhywhyyyy · 08/12/2025 15:33

Do you honestly believe that? That our immigration is benefiting us?

Where do you live?

In an area where many people working in health care and adult social care are immigrants.

There are so many Filipino staff working in the large hospital a few miles from me that they call it "Little Manila" among themselves.

Local care homes employ large numbers of agency staff from south Asia, because they cannot recruit enough suitable staff locally. This is in the SE, but a friend who works in a care home in East Anglia says the situation is the same where she works.

38thparallel · 09/12/2025 19:14

Which insults ?
@OmNomShiva

Accusing posters of wanting to send immigrants to ‘death camps’ is fairly insulting.

poetryandwine · 09/12/2025 19:42

EasternStandard · 09/12/2025 18:50

It’s this. Legislation overruled the court and it could go ahead. This isn’t disputed. Your post isn’t a correct summary.

Starmer scrapped it on the first day for ‘smash the gangs’ approach.

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How, given the SC has ruled Rwanda unsafe?

The HMG doc from last month makes clear that Labour is looking for a cooperative country and so far there seems to be no other in the frame

5MinuteArgument · 09/12/2025 19:50

LakieLady · 09/12/2025 19:14

In an area where many people working in health care and adult social care are immigrants.

There are so many Filipino staff working in the large hospital a few miles from me that they call it "Little Manila" among themselves.

Local care homes employ large numbers of agency staff from south Asia, because they cannot recruit enough suitable staff locally. This is in the SE, but a friend who works in a care home in East Anglia says the situation is the same where she works.

Edited

Might their inability to recruit local staff be something to do with the low wages they offer? Just a thought.

Whywhywhyyyy · 09/12/2025 19:51

LakieLady · 09/12/2025 19:14

In an area where many people working in health care and adult social care are immigrants.

There are so many Filipino staff working in the large hospital a few miles from me that they call it "Little Manila" among themselves.

Local care homes employ large numbers of agency staff from south Asia, because they cannot recruit enough suitable staff locally. This is in the SE, but a friend who works in a care home in East Anglia says the situation is the same where she works.

Edited

I have worked actually in care. Not as a care worker but in an ancillary role. Plenty of British people where I am. Which is surprising actually considering the demographics here. But then it is a working class area so not sure if that makes a difference.

More people would go into care if it was respected and not touted as non skilled work and paid a pittance. It’s incredibly skilled work. The emotional intelligence of the women and men I worked with was so high and it’s beyond my capability tbh and I am highly educated compared to them. So it’s not unskilled. It’s skilled in ways different to academic qualifications.

And just to make it clear I am not saying we shouldn’t have immigration because I am against immigrants. I have met many fantastic immigrants, many friends. It’s that we have now had so much immigration it’s unsustainable and we have ruined it for ourselves.

And I do like the Filipinos. I find them very gentle and polite actually, well mannered and due to the story’s they tell about corruption in their home countries seem to have an innate sense of morals, fairness and justice. They fit in well culturally. So if we have to invite anyone, happy for it to be them.

EasternStandard · 09/12/2025 19:52

poetryandwine · 09/12/2025 19:42

How, given the SC has ruled Rwanda unsafe?

The HMG doc from last month makes clear that Labour is looking for a cooperative country and so far there seems to be no other in the frame

By passing a specific Act in 2024.

Looking for a co operative country for what?

Sleepysleepycoffeecoffee · 09/12/2025 19:59

LakieLady · 09/12/2025 19:14

In an area where many people working in health care and adult social care are immigrants.

There are so many Filipino staff working in the large hospital a few miles from me that they call it "Little Manila" among themselves.

Local care homes employ large numbers of agency staff from south Asia, because they cannot recruit enough suitable staff locally. This is in the SE, but a friend who works in a care home in East Anglia says the situation is the same where she works.

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Having foreign people working in the low paid social care jobs isn’t necessarily a good thing. I work in safeguarding and am frequently pissed off by the utter shit care (and abuse) I see being delivered by foreign workers who come to the UK to work in care in order to get a visa but who couldn’t give a shit about their job. We need skilled, experienced and competent foreign workers, not people willing to do anything just to get here

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