To say that most people in the UK want illegal immigration to stop

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I recently commented on a Facebook post to say the majority of British people are against illegal immigration. I was asked by several other users what survey I based that opinion on. I responded with the question ‘do you think most people want illegal immigration to continue then? Because if not, then surely they want it to stop?’ I didn’t receive any responses to that.
Without getting into any political arguments or name calling and giving no ifs, buts or reasons for your view, please vote as follows.

YABU - I want illegal immigration to continue.
YANBU - I don’t want illegal immigration to continue.

Hair cut at Turkish barbers 🤣 in my area the Turkish barbers are run by Albanian gangs and the only thing people go there for is drugs.

Denmark have laws I believe that mean an area has to be majority western?

We learnt loads from the brexit experience. Mainly that it was a shit idea that has worsened this country for the very long term. Unless of course you're very rich.
As was repeatedly pointed out at the time, this was the exact motive behind it.
Farage knew it would lead to more immigrants, and the cost of living crisis. Which of course, has been a heady mix to create further popularism and make him a very rich and increasingly powerful man. All whilst laughing at those who vote for him.

They’re not though. Everyone brown is classed as ‘boat people’ and the enemy.

We do not benefit from them at all. Not one single bit. The one good thing about being a sovereign nation is that we should have control of our borders and be allowed to accept or reject whoever we want.

Right this is a good example. Someone else can deal with it.

Well you seem to have proven you live in a southern countryside bubble, because if you've ever been up north you'd know we're a bit short on barracks, army towns or RAF bases. Not many royal towns here either. I wouldn't particularly want people to be housed in barracks, but only because the only time the govt has done that the accommodation has been so poor and run down that they shouldn't have expected any human to live in it. As I said, and you ignored, I am in support of housing more people here - we have finally started to take in more refugee children which we didn't do in the past (Kent had by far the majority)

Good. I think perhaps you know me well enough to understand that I think the barracks proposals are dehumanising and degrading to asylum seekers. Glad we are in agreement.🙂

We don't need immigration to sustain the housekeeping type jobs in the NHS. If they paid proper wages , UK people would work in those jobs. Because they want to keep wages low, they get immigrants to do it. Its a financial decision and continues the exploitation of low wage workers

People claiming asylum when they have passed through at least one other safe country to get here

Someone being granted asylum seeker status is not an illegal immigrant - you are confused about what you are seemingly against.

Unfortunately, you are not the only one who is confused and it’s why people can’t have decent conversation about immigration.

So are you saying that you don’t agree with asylum seekers or that you don’t agree with illegal immigration, because they are 2 different things.

So the people who fled Ukraine and were encouraged to come to the UK (the government even paying people to take them in) - were you against this?

Or are you against people coming over in small boats?
And do you think they should be immediately sent back to where they came from, arrested and imprisoned or seen on a case by case basis?

FWIW I absolutely think there should be limits on immigration and asylum seekers but my limitations are not based on skin colour, religion or income.

I can’t answer that as it’s too simplistic. Do I want illegal immigration to continue? No but I also have no issue with people attempting to seek asylum and acknowledge they will use illegal routes where legal ones don’t exist.

I also am not sure illegal immigration is a significant number compared to legal.

Ukrainian men for the most part had to stay and fight for their nation. But the refugee men we see on boats here haven't.

I wouldn’t go that far.

I also don’t care about the “but they passed through a safe argument”. What makes somebody genuine is the circumstances they are fleeing not where they chose to claim asylum.

Ukranian asylum seekers who entered the UK via Ireland don’t suddenly become not genuine.

I don’t think anyone wants “illegal immigration”.

However considering most people say “illegal immigration” when they actually mean “asylum seekers” who are not illegal the conversation is always blurred and I would always say I’m not against it because I know most people are using the wrong term and I am supportive of people seeking asylum.

What I want is better safe routes and sensible policies which I think most people are actually for.

There’s a few racist fuckers who would have the UK return to solely white men with woman ties to birthing babies at the kitchen sink.

This. People are still vitriolic about brown NHS workers, including doctors and nurses that migrate here.

How would you propose we control our borders?

Why don't they choose to stay in the first safe country then? Why purposely create a chance of death to flee France to come here?

Because successive governments have failed to tackle that route of travel allowing prejudice to take route. If we had Chinese people pouring into the country on boats can assure you the prejudice would be the same. Focusing on the colour of skin is a red herring.

Its a loaded question and not a yes/no answer.

We need some immigration. A mobile flexible workforce benefits the economy.

The rules for legal migration are ridiculously strict and aimed at middle-class affluent migrants while there's a huge demand for migrant labour in lower-paid jobs.

This is a deliberate policy by the wealthy who directly or indirectly profit from low-paid migrant labour because a low-paid migrant workforce who also live in fear of deportation won't get upitty about demanding humane and reasonable working conditions that respect everyone's humam rights and dignity. Think about who is profiting from the status quo. It isn't the immigrants.

The country must and should take its fair share of the world's refugees who have well-founded reasons to flee their home country. As we are an island nation this will obviously include people who have travelled through safe countries to get here. There is a deliberate policy that there are no legal ways for refugees to arrive here to claim asylum. Therefore they will arrive illegally. Nevertheless it is right for a fair and reasonable number of them to be here. If you divide the number of refugees in the world by the number of safe countries, proportional to the population of the safe countries, we are not yet receiving our fair share (though we aren't far off)

If we could restructure the law to create reasonable migration routes that people could comply with legally, then of course it would be reasonable to try to end illegal immigration. With the law as it currently is, calls to end illegal immigration are generally just a right-wing dogwhistle where those with vested interests are trying to use immigrants as a focus for hatred to stop people from noticing where the real power and self-intetest is profiting.

Laws that are impossible to enforce. (Although what does “western” mean?

How do you know this?

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Once winter is over it'll be back to shouting at hotels.
Perhaps the haters of the disabled are being reflective on the lead up to Christmas and have chosen to try to be more understanding.😉

Hundred of thousands of “legal” Hong Kong Chinese immigrants seems to have pretty much passed without too much comment.