To say that most people in the UK want illegal immigration to stop

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I recently commented on a Facebook post to say the majority of British people are against illegal immigration. I was asked by several other users what survey I based that opinion on. I responded with the question ‘do you think most people want illegal immigration to continue then? Because if not, then surely they want it to stop?’ I didn’t receive any responses to that.
Without getting into any political arguments or name calling and giving no ifs, buts or reasons for your view, please vote as follows.

YABU - I want illegal immigration to continue.
YANBU - I don’t want illegal immigration to continue.

There is absolutely nothing racist about what I have said. I was of course expecting someone to shout ‘racist’ as an automatic response to anyone voicing concerns about migration.

I am old enough to remember the Cambodian boat people.

We (the UK) gave many refuge and asylum. And many went on to become doctors (among other caring professions) and put a lot more into the UK than some of the racists filth that pollute my pure air.

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No hotels, no baracks

What are you suggesting instead? What would you be happy with?

I think the next election will tell you what ‘the people’ think.

A friend of DS was telling him how his gf's family have the misfortune of living in an area where lots of male migrants have been housed. They delivered drugs rights outside the gf's house and also leer and hiss at the local girls in the area. The gf and her mum have had to deal with harassment from them.

I’m not sure what you mean by first part but yes you’re with the other 83% yanbu

@EasternStandard I live in a city, there already are places that house people seeking asylum. It wouldnt bother me if they opened up another one (in fact they should, as historically in the north we haven't taken our fair share) What's your point? Do you live somewhere only with white people born and bred for sixteen generations? Do you ancestry DNA test people before you'll speak to them?

My great grandparents arrived on a boat c 1850. They were not fleeing war & the level of persecution was fairly stable - always there but no immediate threat of imprisonment or death. Just death by starvation. Does that make them ‘economic migrants’ or people justified in fleeing? Technically, they were coming from part of the UK, so not strictly immigration. That didn’t stop abuse, assaults, riots, accusations of too many children, smelly food, foreign religion, lazy etc etc.
What I’d like to see is the authorities deporting the criminal & the corrupt. As it is they seem to pick the low hanging fruit, the applicants who have a real case, abide by all the rules & contribute to society. I knew a girl, reunited (by the Red Cross) with her mother, her only living relative, who had asylum in the UK. The HO took so long to process her claim that she passed her 18th birthday & was immediately deported as she was no longer a child. Sent back to the place that had killed her whole family. I’d rather keep her & get rid of the traffickers, money launderers, drug dealers & other criminals that seem to be untouchable.

We’re 5 mins walk from two asylum hotels in our city centre, both Best Westerns, one used to be the station hotel. Walk past frequently, never experienced anything except a few nods and hellos. I smile back and get on with my day.

Guess every situation is different.

It was a question on barracks which have higher numbers. You’re a yes? Ok I don’t think many are.

The rest of the post is you reacting bizarrely.

There needs to be a legal system whereby refugees can claim asylum in the UK.
There is nothing illegal about passing through other countries (which are often over burdened and struggling to cope with a disproportionate number of displaced people)

The UK needs to step up and take its fair share of refugees from around the world. At the moment it doesn’t. Fact check it.

We need to take more refugees and make it safe, easy and legal for them to come here.

It’s not about people being dumb. It’s about whether you would die on this particular hill by making the problem your personal problem. Instead of deciding that everyone should deal with it when everyone doesn’t want to, you take personal responsibility for it and host an economic migrant within your home and pay to sponsor them.

A paid for hotel hahahaha you wouldn’t put a dog in and the meals given are sub par oh and yeah pocket money of £9.95 a week for everything else.

they can’t work when going through due process either.

I have more issues with some aspects of legal migration- the relentless siphoning of doctors and nurses from developing countries for instance - than I do with "illegal immigration" per sec.

You cannot fact check undocumented illegals that are within our community to know whether they have the right to remain, so you have no way to ascertain whether we have taken our ‘fair share’ or not. That’s the idea behind the ID cards. We need to know who is in the country and what their legal status is.

Another tired gotcha. I am not happy with the barracks idea for several reasons. I would prefer hotels to barracks if ordinary housing is not possible. Also, as an example, there are a couple of empty residential care homes near me that are standing empty. Places like that could be repurposed for a while.

But the main change needed is not barracks or barges or hotels. The decision making process needs to be swifter and we need safe routes so that people stop making the crossings in small boats. And we need politicians of all stripes to stop using human beings as political footballs. It is degrading to everyone involved.

It’s a very sad state of affairs.

The same people are very happy to accept care from these people as doctors, nurses, care workers. Happy to have their cars cleaned by ‘illegals’ or nails done in nail bars, hair cut at the Turkish barbers.

It can beneficial to the countries they come from, if they return with a decade or more of experience from the UK. Where they can then improve their own country and make it preferable for people to stay.

Won't happen, of course. Too many people have put too much money and have too much tied up in it not happening.

Yes, every situation is different

I used to live near one and it was pretty awful, but we got an increased police presence. I've moved, but it's closed now.

The increased crime was really problematic

I had issues on a personal level, because I'm a woman of colour, and apparently they are often instructed to find local people who they believe have the same origin as them. My skin colour and appearance is ambiguous and I got approached by a lot of these men.

My mum didn't realise how bad the situation was until one day she stopped into the supermarket on the way to see me and got cornered by one who then followed her around persistently asking questions and she realised just how intimidating that is.

He was particularly unhappy at her insistence that she was British! She shouldn't have got into the conversation, but unfortunately, she did not listen to my comments when the hotel first opened. My dad was always worried about it.

Anyway, this isn't really the place to discuss it because I'll just get told I'm racist against people of my own skin colour.

my experience was a few years ago, so it's quite weird to me that it suddenly such a hot topic. I guess no one believed me when I said it was a problem at the time.

@MrsSkylerWhite I'm glad you're not having problems with it.

The devil is in the detail. People would be delighted about economic migration if there was a skills shortage and high value people were coming in. Unfortunately that’s not the case.

Oh, I assumed the barracks question was challenging whether you’d want a load of rapey soldiers nearby grooming your children 😭

you mean would you want migrants in barracks 😂

I reckon your right OP.

I was having a mega LOL last week as the deputy leader of the greens is not happy about 600 men being housed next to her house.

No no it’s not because she doesn’t want immigration. She was preaching just weeks before on her socials. It’s that that location just isn’t right for the asylum seekers. 😂

So yeah no one wants it when they have to actually deal with it. Some think it’s ok for others too have to deal with it though. Thats the only difference I can see.

I’m not surprised re barracks.