To say that most people in the UK want illegal immigration to stop

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I recently commented on a Facebook post to say the majority of British people are against illegal immigration. I was asked by several other users what survey I based that opinion on. I responded with the question ‘do you think most people want illegal immigration to continue then? Because if not, then surely they want it to stop?’ I didn’t receive any responses to that.
Without getting into any political arguments or name calling and giving no ifs, buts or reasons for your view, please vote as follows.

YABU - I want illegal immigration to continue.
YANBU - I don’t want illegal immigration to continue.

My naivety?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgrdx8xp5zo.amp

I am here for this!!

Yes such a cheek

if we didn’t have so many people coming here there wouldn’t be so much pressure in housing and I’m sure they have paid taxes for years and pay council tax still so leave them alone

I’m not convinced they’d be able to do even if the will was there. They’d be so many hoops to jump through. It wouldn’t just be a case of Reform or Conservatives waving it through. Labour would oppose it.

Ive long ago accepted we just have open borders and what will be, will be. I’m hoping my kids will set up their lives in other countries and I’ll just get old and at some point no longer give a crap about any of it 🤣

What countries would you hope for them?

Fair enough!

Farage turned the public against the EU. He paid for anti-immigration adverts focused on brown people.

As a sovereign nation we can pass any law we like. But we should expect that if such a law conflicts with a treaty we’ve signed, there may be consequences. Sure, a few countries have gotten away with it. But they don’t have Britain’s history, riches, international stature or, frankly, vulnerability to terrorism.

Wow that’s a disgusting comment. The people with most empathy for immigrants (including the terrorists, rapists and murderers among their number) seem to have zero empathy for people here. I can’t work it out.

HM Government.

www.gov.uk/government/statistics/immigration-system-statistics-year-ending-june-2025/how-many-people-are-returned-from-the-uk#s-3

Monaco.

For me it's a matter of simple population numbers. Parts of the world have big families and they are having them under circumstances and in environments that can't sustain the population growth. We have demonised and encouraged smaller families in our safe, economically and environmentally secure country. It seems unfair to then be the sanctuary of the world and particularly for those that won't embrace birth control. The bedroom tax, the low Local housing allowance and the right-to-buy/buy-to-let has made housing impossible to get, unless you are homeless. Immigrants /Asylum seekers are homeless, so get the available housing. Now we know that our medical staff can't get jobs because the government encourages/forces the NHS to look oversees first. There's issues, which if any of us quote, we get deleated. So for those in total favour, at what point of overpopulation can we put in more controls? Our wildlife is in danger and we are starting to get flooding because we are overbuilding. I live close to old mines and our roads are collapsing because we have too much traffic.

Facts aren’t ageist.

It’s a fact that most of the money we pay in tax goes to the elderly in the form of social care and healthcare. And subsidised services like free prescriptions, winter fuel allowance, bus fares etc.

It’s a fact that today’s elderly are the richest demographic in British history.

It’s a fact that they treat their homes as financial assets and hang on to them, acquiring a few more to rent out, gaining from their investments in a way young people of today will never be able to.

It’s a fact that they were in the main the generation who drove the Brexit vote, one of the causes of today’s changed immigration and asylum landscape.

This isn’t ageism. It’s simply reality.

Here in the gerontocracy, we may not question the current generation of elderly.

They’re somehow revered without question, perhaps a learned behaviour from the genuinely heroic generation which came before them.

No, we prefer to blame the desperate asylum seekers fleeing the wreckage of their nations, shattered by our globalist turbo-capitalism.

Which ironically is exactly what enriched the subsidised, wealthy elderly generation of today.

You can’t have it both ways. It’s not OK to extract from other countries in the name of globalisation and then bitch when other countries come knock at our door for the same reason.

Woah you really doubled down with that didn’t you. You are genuinely frothing that old people exist 😮

Yes. We know that among the law abiding men in these hotels are an unknown (but greater than zero) number of men who are terrorists, rapists, murderers and violent criminal. Some are fleeing international justice.

Your impression that you and your daughter are not at any risk from these men may be just that. You may be lucky and only walk past at mealtimes when they are busy at the buffet.

Do you acknowledge that some people have been murdered by these immigrants and some women have been raped and sexually assaulted? Do you acknowledge that in some areas of asylum hotels, young girls are routinely harassed by groups of men and kids can’t use the park play areas any life due to groups of men filming and watching them?

But you are more worried about people calling for secure borders. It’s very odd.

Which part of that factually correct post did you disagree with?

I don’t think this is frothing at all.

You can’t simply handwave away where most of our tax revenue actually goes, while pointing at immigrants and blaming them because you can’t get an NHS appointment.

It’s just how it really is, and nobody dares to say it - your reaction is another perpetuation of the taboo - the gerontocracy dare not speak its name.

You do know that under international law there is no requirement to stop in first safe country. And, indeed, a country you think as stable may not be safe for them anyway.

I have some sympathy where its truly illegal but these argumemts are so often misinformed and dont relate to illegal immigration abyway, just their incorrect interpretation of it.

Thank you. This report has only one total number for Asylum Related Returns. In the most recent 12 month period, that number was something over 10, 600.

Thus 10,600 included all asylum related returns, involuntary and voluntary. It includes port returns, those deported for criminal offences, etc.

Our correspondence began upthread when you remarked that tens of thousands of asylum seekers felt safe enough to visit their home countries and I asked for a source. This report you linked is the source. It does not break out temporary visits home.

I still have no source for how many asylum seekers make temporary visits home

How are elderly hoarding houses? How dare they have a place to live? What's wrong with hanging on to their own home? I don't know if they all have multiple properties. I did some internet searching I don't think it's true at all.

I mean the state pension is there right - arguably they've paid tax and NI all their lives?

An asylum seeker killed a pensioner a few years ago:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crgyggw4z05o.amp

It might be legal to asylum shop but definitely not more. Even so, why risk death on the channel if you're already in a safe place?

I think you are very odd and honestly cannot relate to what you are saying.

When you say ‘these men’ are you really only speaking about those housed in a hotel whilst awaiting their asylum application?

I am not the naive one here.

Not true as absolutely loads of illegal migrants DONT have brown faces. Albanians are white, some Romanians that shouldn’t be here are white.

I suggest you read further then.

Maybe you could do some of your own research as well as this is an area of interest for you. Let me know that you find.

You may have noted that I said ‘asylum seekers’ in quotes as the original claim from Toffee was that all these people are ‘risking their lives on a dangerous journey’, therefore must all be genuine. This is clearly not the case.

Nobody is risking their life on a dangerous journey to safety for fun. Nobody becomes a refugee out of choice.

It’s such a pity more people don’t know that immigration is not the cause of their problems.