To say that most people in the UK want illegal immigration to stop

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I recently commented on a Facebook post to say the majority of British people are against illegal immigration. I was asked by several other users what survey I based that opinion on. I responded with the question ‘do you think most people want illegal immigration to continue then? Because if not, then surely they want it to stop?’ I didn’t receive any responses to that.
Without getting into any political arguments or name calling and giving no ifs, buts or reasons for your view, please vote as follows.

YABU - I want illegal immigration to continue.
YANBU - I don’t want illegal immigration to continue.

They have managed it. And won’t change that, citizens won’t vote those policies out.

Call me picky but I think one case of a female hotel worker being stabbed in the head is not rare enough. And she’s not the only person murdered is she.

Nice minimising of the problems being caused by these men to others. And no, as men from troubled countries are far more likely to commit violent crimes than men originating from here so people who live near large numbers of those men are at greater risk.

Any tiny bit of sympathy or the women and girls sexually harassed and raped by these men who, if they weren’t here, wouldn’t have been able to attack them? Do you feel that well insulated from danger? It must be amazing to feel so safe.

Are you in the uk? Are you facing civil war? Are you being persecuted? Imagine you were and you and your family faced a high risk of death, torture, unlawful imprisonment or even just starvation. Imagine you then managed to not just escape but somehow you also survived (unlike possibly some of your family members who didn't survive the journey). You then arrive in what you believe is a civilised, Lawful country. If that was me I'd think that people might be a bit sympathetic considering everything i have lost and gone through and considering I made it against all odds to their country. Instead you find the papers are full of people politicians scape goating you and people shouting outside your accommodation and some even try to set fire to it. If it was me i'd be stunned. How would you feel? Would you feel bad that you are subjecting people to your presence? (Because in practical terms the number of asylum seekers and their cost is do tiny compared to the other problems this country face so apart from having to see their face there is very little other impact on most people.

No @ChristmasCrumblings I meant millions of immigrants generally, the Blair and Boriswaves since the 90s. Dont know about boat and lorry arrivals, but then nobody does, do they? Britain is a country that couldn't build a length of train track down a part of England, we had to give up on it. In fact, it's a country that can't even clear a pile of rubbish away from the side of a bloody motorway! And we need to build entire cities, massive infrastructure, millions of houses! We just aren't capable of these things any more. So it will eventually come on top as the happy mondays would say. How can it not?

Where did you get 300 from?

It was made lawful before Labour scrapped it.

I am not minimising anything, I don't use these tragedies to demonise all asylum seekers.

So what if they'd like England more? I might want to go to the USA and work in NYC? Doesn't mean the us government should automatically let me go.

I understand why other countries don't want them, neither do we. Why does Brexit have anything to do with boats?

Because of the random good luck we had, being born in rich countries. Hardly a source of earned pride.

Oh stop. We’re just at risk from men full stop and are currently importing boat loads of them. I wonder if we collected data on ratios of men to women currently if the usual 52% to 48% gender split would now be skewed.

Then go live somewhere else. This white saviour complex is tiresome. You spend your time hand wringing about how impossible it is to be white and privileged while other people are just trying to get on with their lives and pay the bills. We’re too tired to give a shit about your superior skin colour.

Tens of thousands of voluntary returns to the country of origin for purposes of holiday, family weddings, business etc say that not all are facing death, torture or starvation.

If I was such a person I might be inclined to feel a little more grateful to my asylum giving hosts and regain from raping or murdering any of my new neighbours. But that’s just me.

None of the problems we are currently facing in the UK will be improved by letting in more people we will struggle to accommodate.

When we were in the EU we were party to the Dublin Regulation for allocating asylum seekers across the EU. Farage and Co, who led us out of that agreement, are trying desperately to draw attention away from the fact that it led to a loss of any control over asylum numbers

Brexit ended the Dublin agreement. So no legal requirement to claim asylum in the first safe country. Conservatives decimated the processing capacity for those seeking asylum. So we firstly got rid of our ability to weed out chancers. And then we destroyed the mechanisms to investigate and expel those coming for the wrong reasons. The UK had, all on its own, created this perfect storm of there being no ‘legal’ route into the UK to claim asylum. Unsurprisingly that doesn’t stop the stream of people wishing to come here. It’s just played into the hands of criminals willing to exploit the situation. Arguably.perhaps if the West stopped fucking things up in other countries, and we focused on the fair distribution of resources, we might find fewer desperate to flee war, persecution and famine.

How does this follow from acknowledging that some of us just got lucky by being born in rich countries? And what do you know about my ethnicity?

Haven't some EU countries like Poland and Hungary been quite strict and not allowed migration issues to take hold?

I have read the stories, they are rare.

You literally minimised those tragedies. No one is demonising all asylum seekers, just wanting to exercise caution until we know much are the good guys and which aren’t.

I can’t fathom why you don’t want the authorities to try and prevent at least some rapes, murder and sexual assaults by confining these men securely. Such little empathy for your fellow Brits. Such feelings of insulation from risk.

That’s not the case. If it were then the other EU countries wouldn’t be struggling. They’d just send people back to first entry countries.

The mechanism only allowed a few. Which is why ROI is struggling etc

Wow, you took your time to pop up with the ‘everyone who wants to talk about immigration and border security is racist’ line.

Can you share some data about the struggles Ireland is having?

No, I haven't minimised those tragedies.

You want to put all male asylum seekers in prison.

So what would you call them then mmmmm

plus when did I say everyone reading my post might help there.

Farage never played a part in the negotiations. As a sovereign nation we have ever right to control our borders.

Yep although that’s less to do with the Dublin Agreement (as mentioned in pp) and more to do with physical barriers and saying no.

We could take a tough approach outside the EU, it’s not really a factor. It’s easier to do similar to Aus outside the EU though due to some laws.

Yes he was.