Is there anyone on here who voted Labour who is genuinely happy with how things are going

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I didn’t vote Labour, but was actually quite excited. We needed change, now I dint think that at all and although Tories weren’t great in many respects, this shit show feels worse! I’m so tired of our politicians just not doing what is best for the country and having to curtail to babk benchers/unions, lining their own pockets and wardrobes and generally just being untrustworthy.
i have no doubt Farage will get in next time, and it will be Keir’s fault.

So who's going to do the unskilled jobs then?

Agree with the above. That’s what I voted Labour for.

No, unskilled jobs NEED to be done and deserve enough pay for a decent life.

If you don’t, then you create / perpetuate an underclass - whether that’s made up of British or immigrant labour - it’s immoral, leads to inequality, leading to social problems, drugs, crime, obesity, health problems, and spiralling social care costs to deal with it.

This is where we are now.

I think they are doing alright - I'm not unhappy with them. As a pp said, they are terrible at communicating what they are doing, as I know a lot of hard work is going into growth and they are really outcome focussed. Keir is too nice of a man and is not as charismatic as some other politicians, just a decent, hard working and principled man.

They are however getting a smear campaign on everything they are doing, even the Tories didn't get this bad press and they did a lot of things wrong. If anyone thinks Reform and Nige will do any better than a decent man like Keir then you're absolutely deluded.

Labour had an opportunity to bring us all together. Instead they have looked to divide us at every opportunity. The likelihood is that they will only get one term in government then we'll swing to the right and there will be more chaos and division. An absolutely tragic missed opportunity and I think we'll find it very hard to recover from...

I am disillusioned with Labour but I am more so with the general public. Never have I seen such an ugly amount of racism and hatred. Our infrastructure is fucked.

Corbyn was not expelled due to antisemitism

I think it’s ok and they are just about managing to keep the country moving forward without the wheels coming off totally. And given how fragile the country was after austerity, Brexit and Covid that is no small feat in itself.

The other things is that I am starting to be hopeful about the longer term. I see relatively small but joined up and thought through changes gradually happening rather than quick fixes that promise miracles which never materialise.

And honestly I think that is what we have needed for a long time. Gradual cumulative change amidst some relative stability. Realism about making things a bit better step by step rather being promised sunlit uplands that are just a ruse yo get people to act against their own best interests.

So I am starting to be curiously optimistic about how things will be in two or three years time.

What reason do you put it down to then? Starmer said it was because of anti semitism. Are you saying Starmer mislead us?

Sir Keir Starmer defends Jeremy Corbyn's suspension from Labour - BBC News

He was expelled for saying he would stand for election as an independent

I think they are doing a lot better than people credit them.
I have no regrets voting for them

You’ve already been told, it was because he lost two elections.

I wish I shared your optimism! I hope you are right.

who will benefit from the free workers? Businesses? And then when they realise they can get free labour what do you think they’ll do?
terrible

Reform are a bunch of ex-Tories and not the brighter ones either. One of whom Nathan Gill a leader of Reform UK wales has been arrested for taking Russian bribes. Farage is a long time admirer of Putin.

The BBC news run by an ex GB editor is no longer impartial and pro-reform, even Ed Davey has talked about this.

The tories cost me an extra £300 per month on my mortgage under Truss someone who Farage thinks highly of.

We will have no NHS with Reform either, god knows how people will cope then.

my workers rights have got better under Labour, there’s more appointments available on the NHS. I got my consultant and dexa scan appointments quicker than expected. They need to tax wealth more not work - see Gary economics over on Instagram.

Look how badly the Reform run councils are doing to get an idea of how they’ll mess up the country.

We now have a tiny mortgage, lucky us and our combined income is over £300’000 per year and have private healthcare as part of our work package. We would survive a Reform government, would the rest of you?

I’m good with it. I don’t catastrophise though and jump on headlines which everyone seems to do like bloody sheep now. Half the time it’s based on little to no information and is fuelled by media. I watched a bbc news person interview an Oxford provost yesterday. Politics was obviously his area of expertise. The amount of times she tried to get him to say Rachel Reeves misled the public and he just kept saying ‘this is not a news story, she hasn’t misled anyone, laid out the facts etc’. I was in the pub later and could hear a couple next to me saying ‘well she’s misled the public’. I don’t despair at the government. I actually despair at the general public.

I actually think I'd rather have Boris back tbh..

I mean he’s antisemetic too but that’s just one of a number of the guy’s failings.

Why shouldn't our expectations for the minimum standard of living change over time?

Would you say that someone with no running water was deprived? Because a few hundred years ago even a king wouldn't have had that. No central heating? 50 years ago nor did lots of people, but we shouldn't expect kids to shiver in their beds with ice building up on the inside of their windows today.

Maybe the Tories could have done something about them in the time they were in power. They had plenty of time.

For people on PAYE, taxes haven't gone up, which was their GE promise.

Reform promised not to increase Council Tax, they then stuck it up by the maximum.

Labour have increased taxes though - by stealth by freezing tax bands for additional years, something RR said at the last budget that she wouldn't do as it would 'hurt working people'.

RR also justified her tax hikes on an alleged £20 billion black hole, which the OBR told her didn't exist back in September, but she kept that information from the public, to justify emptying our pockets last week.

I think RR should go, as well as KS, Labour need a fresh start, these two are very unpopular.

But they only affect people from 2029, the TH s were frozen prior to the GE, so atm no tax rises & i note the Cons or Reform have refused to say if they would unfreeze them.

The black hole thing is odd, the OBR have got a terrible record on forecasting but even they say that Reeves extra tax rises have a 41% chance of failing to be enough.
Just months earlier, they were predicting a 21bn black hole, they've also had to downgrade the last 15 years of growth & got this years forecast wrong by 50%.

So whilst she has not been open, she was also right to increase taxes, given the OBRs track record.

Resigning? no, we need stability, the public can issue their own P45 in 2029 if they wish.

I voted Labour. Really disappointed by some aspects (immigration rhetoric, lowering of NI threshold for employers) but fairly happy with the budget and other aspects. Given what they inherited I don’t think they’re doing too badly, the problem is the media scrutiny is 1000x worse than the previous government were subjected to and this feeds a narrative that they’re incompetent. I’m genuinely terrified by the prospect of a reform government- yes I do think hey are a racist organisation- so for me the current government are far far better than the alternative