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Is there anyone on here who voted Labour who is genuinely happy with how things are going

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Iwishicouldflyhigh · 01/12/2025 08:14

I didn’t vote Labour, but was actually quite excited. We needed change, now I dint think that at all and although Tories weren’t great in many respects, this shit show feels worse! I’m so tired of our politicians just not doing what is best for the country and having to curtail to babk benchers/unions, lining their own pockets and wardrobes and generally just being untrustworthy.
i have no doubt Farage will get in next time, and it will be Keir’s fault.

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EasternStandard · 01/12/2025 18:59

placemats · 01/12/2025 18:57

Gosh you seem not to understand. Are you not proud of the party you support?

Are you still going with this? You said below you wanted to stop. Feel free to do that.

placemats · 01/12/2025 19:02

EasternStandard · 01/12/2025 18:59

Are you still going with this? You said below you wanted to stop. Feel free to do that.

Stop with the persistent requests for me to stop and I'll happily do the same.

EasternStandard · 01/12/2025 19:04

placemats · 01/12/2025 19:02

Stop with the persistent requests for me to stop and I'll happily do the same.

Tg for that.

placemats · 01/12/2025 19:05

EasternStandard · 01/12/2025 19:04

Tg for that.

Indeed.

SunnyViper · 01/12/2025 19:07

placemats · 01/12/2025 17:45

Well Labour, Conservative, Lib Dem, SNP, Plaid, Green, DUP, SDLP, Independent will be around then. Perhaps not Reform, that could possibly change.

As I said, definitely not Labour, conservative or reform so maybe Lib Dem, green or independent. Depends on policies at the time though.

Bumblebee72 · 01/12/2025 19:10

People keep posting that Reform councils are putting up council tax as if it some kind of gotcha. The Reform councils are putting council tax up less than Labour councils surely that is the important bit, Labour misrun Birmingham have put tax up 7.5% and they still don't empty the bins.

hazelnutvanillalatte · 01/12/2025 19:13

I voted Labour and was relieved that they would get in, with all their adults in the room talk. Of course knew there would need to be tough times. What I didn't agree with was extra spending on benefits and lifting the two child cap in the midst of these crisis talks, penalising middle earners even more for no reason.

Southernecho · 01/12/2025 19:17

caringcarer · 01/12/2025 18:31

Previous counsellors left pot holes for 5 years. Within 6 months of Reform lots of big potholes were filled in. The previous counsellors used to contribute tax payers money to the Pride march. Reform told them if they wanted to march they would have to pay for it themselves. They are focusing on SN DC, potholes and next focus is ensuring community centre will be able to be booked by all.

The Pride march costs, wouldn't fill many potholes, so your council (like my Tory one & the LD one next door, that was Reform, until they all quit!) use the money this Labour Government has given them to fix roads.

Yes, the Labour government has increased funding for local road maintenance, by a total of £1.6 billion in 2025/6, an increase of nearly 50% from the previous year. This funding aims to fix an additional million potholes each year in England, but a portion of the funding will be withheld from councils that do not meet transparency and reporting requirements. Councils must publish details on how they are using the funds to be eligible for the full amount

So nothing to do with gay bashing and all to do with this Govt.

Southernecho · 01/12/2025 19:22

Bumblebee72 · 01/12/2025 19:10

People keep posting that Reform councils are putting up council tax as if it some kind of gotcha. The Reform councils are putting council tax up less than Labour councils surely that is the important bit, Labour misrun Birmingham have put tax up 7.5% and they still don't empty the bins.

Staffordshire and Kent Reform councils, put up council by 4.99%, same as almost all other councils in England.

Despite being elected on a promise not too.

The important bit is you making stuff up.

Anotherlurkingmale · 01/12/2025 19:22

There have been more than a few disappointments with current government but can't agree with those claiming 'worst government/worst budget ever etc' - people must have very short memories.

They've done good work on transport, devolved powers, forthcoming employee rights bill, renter's rights bill and increasing public sector pay (badly needed, especially for NHS) but they have been too nasty and needlessly authoritarian on disability cuts, proscribing Palestine Action and cosying up to big developers and tech giants who ride roughshod over environment.

I agree that messaging has been poor and they really need to show backbone instead of worrying about Reform. For example the country's economy desperately needs closer relationship with Europe but they're still terrified of offending Brexit supporters despite the overwhelming evidence of damage leaving EU has done to economy.

UncertainPerson · 01/12/2025 19:31

They are terrible at comms. Really terrible. And they have made a load of unforced errors I wasn’t expecting (Angela Rayner, budget leaks etc.). But I am happy they are investing in infrastructure and are prioritising public services.

If Reform get in it will be the fault of the electorate for voting them in, not Keir Starmer! People need to look at Reform’s Russia links following Nathan Gill’s prosecution. And Farage’s alleged involvement school boy antisemitism is vile.

Bumblebee72 · 01/12/2025 20:08

Southernecho · 01/12/2025 19:22

Staffordshire and Kent Reform councils, put up council by 4.99%, same as almost all other councils in England.

Despite being elected on a promise not too.

The important bit is you making stuff up.

Hummmm, a promise to not put up tax, that sounds familiar! Labour voters really do have a cheek!

Vaxtable · 01/12/2025 20:13

I, and a lot of others, could have told you exactly how this would go, it’s the same every time Labour are in, they simply don’t know how to govern and are ruled by mouthy back benchers and the unions

All those talking about Tory sleeze, it’s the same for any party, just as all parties lie , it’s just Rachel and Keir are not prepared to do what they expect others to do and fall on their swords.

It’s a shit show and will remain so until they are voted out

Bumblebee72 · 01/12/2025 20:15

UncertainPerson · 01/12/2025 19:31

They are terrible at comms. Really terrible. And they have made a load of unforced errors I wasn’t expecting (Angela Rayner, budget leaks etc.). But I am happy they are investing in infrastructure and are prioritising public services.

If Reform get in it will be the fault of the electorate for voting them in, not Keir Starmer! People need to look at Reform’s Russia links following Nathan Gill’s prosecution. And Farage’s alleged involvement school boy antisemitism is vile.

There is only one party that had to expel its leader because of anti-semitism and it wasn't Reform for those with short memories.

TentaclesTime · 01/12/2025 20:16

Sasssquatch · 01/12/2025 09:03

I don’t think they’re doing a terrible job. It’ll take a while to correct the shit show of the last 15 years. What we need more than anything is stability. And for the press to back off and let the changes take effect and to stop stirring up discontent and division.

This.
I don't believe the Tories, even when shown to be obviously useless and acting in their self interests, ever had to face the level of criticism by the press that the current Labour government has.
I do believe that they could do a better job of putting their ideas across, but that's probably due to the fact they're normally people, not old Etonians, trained in lies and spin.

BIossomtoes · 01/12/2025 20:18

Bumblebee72 · 01/12/2025 20:15

There is only one party that had to expel its leader because of anti-semitism and it wasn't Reform for those with short memories.

Antisemitism had nothing to do with it. Corbyn was (eventually) ousted because he couldn’t win an election.

TentaclesTime · 01/12/2025 20:29

BIossomtoes · 01/12/2025 20:18

Antisemitism had nothing to do with it. Corbyn was (eventually) ousted because he couldn’t win an election.

It really wouldn't make sense for a racist party to fire their leader for being a racist would it now?

TopPocketFind · 01/12/2025 20:38

Bumblebee72 · 01/12/2025 19:10

People keep posting that Reform councils are putting up council tax as if it some kind of gotcha. The Reform councils are putting council tax up less than Labour councils surely that is the important bit, Labour misrun Birmingham have put tax up 7.5% and they still don't empty the bins.

Reform promised council tax cuts.

13 of their councils are raising it, 5 or 6 of them raising it by the maximum of 5 per cent.

snurtifier · 01/12/2025 20:42

What I would have liked to see from Labour was an ambitious but centrist programme. One that acknowledged the need to get welfare spending under control without imposing austerity. One that robustly challenged racism whilst bringing immigration down to manageable levels. One that fairly rewarded workers whilst encouraging growth, and made public sector pay rises conditional on changes to outdated working practices. One that addressed long-term issues in sectors like energy and social care whilst remaining sensitive to short-term needs.

So far it's been a mixed bag. I think they've done pretty well on immigration. I like Ed Miliband's energy policy, although I don't understand why he's kept so far out of the public eye. Starmer hasn't been able to get any meaningful welfare reform past his own backbenchers, let alone do anything properly ambitious like end the triple lock. And they've paid off the rail unions without the public getting anything in return. Ending the two-child cap was a step backwards IMO, and recognising a Palestinian state was a shameful piece of virtue signalling.

Whammyammy · 01/12/2025 20:43

arethereanyleftatall · 01/12/2025 08:46

The budget last week was the worst in living memory for me. I have since looked on entitled.to and discovered I would have the EXACT same money whether I work or not. It should surely be a no brainer to everyone that if you are able to, you should actually be paid for going to work?

Only a fool would work under those circumstances. Labour are going to bankrupt us.

ilovesooty · 01/12/2025 20:46

I think there would be howls of resentment at any party / government ending the triple lock. Pensioners turn out to vote. However it was a bribe from the Coalition in the first place.

BIossomtoes · 01/12/2025 20:52

ilovesooty · 01/12/2025 20:46

I think there would be howls of resentment at any party / government ending the triple lock. Pensioners turn out to vote. However it was a bribe from the Coalition in the first place.

You’re right. Look at the political point scoring outrage when the WFA was removed - and that was only £150.

goodtogarden · 01/12/2025 21:01

Sasssquatch · 01/12/2025 09:03

I don’t think they’re doing a terrible job. It’ll take a while to correct the shit show of the last 15 years. What we need more than anything is stability. And for the press to back off and let the changes take effect and to stop stirring up discontent and division.

Agree with this. The run up to the budget was far too long and handled very badly but they are doing OK given the circumstances and I will be voting for them again. They also have the extra burden of fighting against right wing media who want instability to promote their own interests. Sickening to see all the journalists this morning baying for blood in the hope they will bring another government down. Of course they are not going to give much publicity to some of the decent things the government are doing, that's no surprise.

OmNomShiva · 01/12/2025 21:08

Whammyammy · 01/12/2025 20:43

Only a fool would work under those circumstances. Labour are going to bankrupt us.

It’s because wages are too low. If people were paid properly they wouldn’t need to top up with benefits.

Taxpayers are not subsidising the lazy, they’re subsidising company profits in order to benefit the shareholders & CEO bonuses.

Bumblebee72 · 01/12/2025 21:13

OmNomShiva · 01/12/2025 21:08

It’s because wages are too low. If people were paid properly they wouldn’t need to top up with benefits.

Taxpayers are not subsidising the lazy, they’re subsidising company profits in order to benefit the shareholders & CEO bonuses.

That's not right through. Anyone who is paid minimum wage is already being subsidised by their employer at the requirement of the government.

Some people just have less valuable economic output then it costs to sustain them.

Education to raise peoples skill level is the only real answer.