Working families £18k worse off than benefits claimants after budget

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This is madness. Can the last taxpayer in the UK please close the door behind them.

www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/households-on-handouts-to-be-18-000-better-off-than-families-on-modest-wages/ar-AA1RqxlQ

They could offer childcare over school holidays. As a TA people would bite her hand off if she did this.

I also have zero network to help out with free childcare. We managed by paying for it, working compressed hours where we need to. Other friends work nights in supermarkets or weekends at pubs if they don't have childcare. Another friend does cleaning from 6pm in offices.

But they’ve not taxed everything that can move - bicycles, scooters and horses are all up for grabs.

The double Christmas bonus is Ireland by the look of it. Looks like everyone on UC, pensioners, etc. gets £10 in England, don't know about rest of UK

Agree
I just think there’s a different mindset at play here
Some make it work for themselves whilst some expect others to make it work for them.

If some can make it work with similar circumstances why can’t others do it or is it that the will isn’t there?

Thus is complex though. The house becoming high value doesn't necessarily mean they have a lot of money apart from that.

My grandmother has a high value house which skyrocketed since she bought it in the 50s, but lives on her state pension and has little savings.

I completely understand why the taxpayer feels aggrieved.

The welfare budget is in desperate need of reform.

Exactly

Only if they can afford it and not rely on benefits to do it. It is not the responsibility of the taxpayer to pay for it. It’s down to the parents to fund it.

I think we should value SAH or part time parents more.

Exactly

Yes if you can fund that yourself. It is not the responsibility of other people to pay you to do that.

Well as a benefits claimants I get way less than that. So I don't really see how that's possible.

Where? In her damp tiny flat with black mould all over the walls and a few sticks of furniture, no equipment, no TV, in an area where most local people wouldn’t even venture into? I very much doubt that people would be biting her hand off!

37 hours on the new NMW, means that the FT worker is taking home £21,126. The PT worker is therefore bringing home £6,874 a year, which would be tax free and working 10 hours a week. Their maths is way off.

Or she could work as part of a holiday club or clean the mould off /report damp to the landlord to get it sorted.Or become a sit in nanny over the holidays. Nothing in life is easy and there are things she could do in the 16 weeks she has free. Sh change tac and get a different full time job. She has this choice

Cheaper for the government to provide a small top up for one parent to be part time than it is for them to pay UC childcare care. Next year my youngest is at school and there is very little in the way of wrap around care so no choice but to be part time.

Yes and they are the same absolute hypocrites who will moan like fuck when there is a lack of TAs to help with their precious darlings when TAs start leaving in droves if they havent already due to these kinds of attitudes.

Hmm...maybe we should value what SAH/part time work parents do as much as we value work outside the home.

Eleanor Rathbone's work on the Mother's Allowance was a long time ago but imo still relevant.

I don't like Mary Harrington much but this article summarises the issues with Eleanor Rathbone well.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=unherd.com/2020/09/what-if-the-feminists-had-won/&ved=2ahUKEwjr0YCp35yRAxWSVEEAHaP8JggQFnoECE8QAQ&usg=AOvVaw3GOoFUBZhYrc2aOqFa5eCj

You’d still need childcare evenings/weekends. I’m guessing your friends weren’t single mothers?

But it isn’t the government who pays it’s the taxpayer who are becoming more disillusioned by the day. You could work weekends. Also if you are working full time you are still contributing with tax and NI. It seems like we live in a time where if it’s slightly difficult then people throw their hands up in horror at having to be creative.

Oh i dunno A lot of parents on here seem to be happy to leave the children they claim to love to be cared for by someone they have no respect for or actively despise.

I work weekends. I can't work more as my son has possible SEN and can only do short sessions as nursery.

Well TA’s havent left yet have they because it obviously suits their circumstances.