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To feel repulsed by sons girlfriend smoking

234 replies

Reookay · 20/11/2025 00:04

DS is 29, his gf is 25, they have been together for about 6 months and at the weekend I met her for the first time.
She hosted us for dinner, made a lovely meal and she seems nice enough personality wise. She is Franco-Italian, English is her 3rd language so conversation definitely felt a little forced which I expected.
Anyway she smokes, DS has reassured she’s not a chain smoker but will have one or two cigarettes in the evening. Her flat was lovely but she smokes out of her kitchen window which is open plan to the dining and living space, there was a faint scent of cigarette smoke and it made me feel a little unwell.
I told one of my friends about this and said it made me feel a bit repulsed, not by her as a person but by the smoking and the scent. They all said it’s cultural (I mean I’m not sure it is I have lots of French friends who don’t smoke, though I do appreciate it is maybe more common in continental Europe than here in the UK), and actually a bit sexy. I just don’t understand how it could ever be viewed as sexy or anything other than a little bit disgusting.
I like her as a person, even if I didn’t I’d still be lovely to her as it’s ultimately up to DS who he dates. However it does worry me a little as DS has really bad health anxiety, he’s had to receive therapy for it and I’m just not sure an actively unhealthy happy will be good for him mentally?
DS also joked that she can’t go to bed without having a drink, be it a negroni or a glass of wine or something similar. I pointed out to him that not being able to go a day without a drink doesn’t sound very healthy (privately) but he rebutted it’s only one drink, she’s not an alcoholic, she just likes her “personal rituals”.

AIBU to find her smoking repulsive and think her habits are quite unhealthy?
Obviously it’s none of my business but just trying to figure out if my feelings towards it are even reasonable.

OP posts:
AelinAG · 20/11/2025 01:00

I wish I was a beautiful, intelligent European woman who ended every night with a skinny cigarette hanging out of what I assume is a beautiful, stylish flat and then having a negroni before bed…where I could watch Netflix in three languages….

ive missed the point haven’t I? I think she sounds fab!

Lunde · 20/11/2025 01:06

Reookay · 20/11/2025 00:23

Acknowledging that due to someone’s first language not being English meant the conversation didn’t flow as smoothly as If we had all been native English speakers, is not the same as judging her proficiency, it’s merely an observation of the situation.

Tell your DS that in future you can hold dinner discussions in your second or third language

PussInBin20 · 20/11/2025 01:08

You’re a MIL (or potential) so you’re never going to get unbiased opinions on here. I’d give up on this thread if I were you.

You can’t be a MIL or stepmother on here and ask if YABU as the answer is always Yes! Even if you aren’t actually asking that, you are still unreasonable lol

Arlanymor · 20/11/2025 01:09

By the way, I dislike smoking too. But I don't use it as a 'smokescreen' for my obvious dislike of a person.

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 20/11/2025 01:14

Oh dear. It doesn't look like the thread is going the way you thought it would.

Outside9 · 20/11/2025 01:17

YANBU. I wouldnt want that for my child's partner.

Its judgemental, but big whoop, we all judge

HelenaWaiting · 20/11/2025 01:19

HeddaGarbled · 20/11/2025 00:19

there was a faint scent of cigarette smoke and it made me feel a little unwell

I suspect that was psychosomatic.

You're very generous. I suspect it was made up (the unwellness, not the smoking).

Arlanymor · 20/11/2025 01:23

Outside9 · 20/11/2025 01:17

YANBU. I wouldnt want that for my child's partner.

Its judgemental, but big whoop, we all judge

And that's why YABU. As is the person who made this post.

LonelyPotato · 20/11/2025 01:24

Arlanymor · 20/11/2025 00:11

If you read back your post there is judgement on judgement on judgement about her, on many levels. Not just the smoking. Seriously read it back. Her stilted language, her drinking, her smoking, she seems 'nice enough'. Faint praise.

You think it's disgusting and not sexy - you're not dating her. Your son is. Your son who is 29. A full blown adult. You're worrying about his health anxiety even though he's completely fine and enjoying the situation?

You don't like her. You don't think she's a good match. You are thinking of your son and his future family; you don't envisage how she would fit in. Be honest.

First post nailed it

MrsSmiff · 20/11/2025 01:27

It’s cultural. Educate yourself. It’s their equivalent of a bottle of beer and a packet of crisps or a couple of biscuits of an evening in front of the TV. Would you judge her for doing that?

raspberryberet2020 · 20/11/2025 01:40

Reookay · 20/11/2025 00:04

DS is 29, his gf is 25, they have been together for about 6 months and at the weekend I met her for the first time.
She hosted us for dinner, made a lovely meal and she seems nice enough personality wise. She is Franco-Italian, English is her 3rd language so conversation definitely felt a little forced which I expected.
Anyway she smokes, DS has reassured she’s not a chain smoker but will have one or two cigarettes in the evening. Her flat was lovely but she smokes out of her kitchen window which is open plan to the dining and living space, there was a faint scent of cigarette smoke and it made me feel a little unwell.
I told one of my friends about this and said it made me feel a bit repulsed, not by her as a person but by the smoking and the scent. They all said it’s cultural (I mean I’m not sure it is I have lots of French friends who don’t smoke, though I do appreciate it is maybe more common in continental Europe than here in the UK), and actually a bit sexy. I just don’t understand how it could ever be viewed as sexy or anything other than a little bit disgusting.
I like her as a person, even if I didn’t I’d still be lovely to her as it’s ultimately up to DS who he dates. However it does worry me a little as DS has really bad health anxiety, he’s had to receive therapy for it and I’m just not sure an actively unhealthy happy will be good for him mentally?
DS also joked that she can’t go to bed without having a drink, be it a negroni or a glass of wine or something similar. I pointed out to him that not being able to go a day without a drink doesn’t sound very healthy (privately) but he rebutted it’s only one drink, she’s not an alcoholic, she just likes her “personal rituals”.

AIBU to find her smoking repulsive and think her habits are quite unhealthy?
Obviously it’s none of my business but just trying to figure out if my feelings towards it are even reasonable.

Yuck, smokers are so grim and gross. They always stink too - always. And as for sitting in a room with a nicotine addict - not a chance. Vomit.

Hated it back in the 80s when it was common, loathe it now. Never had anything to do with it being unhealthy, it's just such an ugly, anti social habit.

It's totally imcomparable to any other habit like eating junk or having a drink of course, as those don't stink up the actual air you breathe, linger in your hair, clothes etc and make you stink like a dirty ashtray. It's your air, health and comfort that's being sullied by the grotty smoker, whereas when they drink or eat something you are unaffected. For me it is the stench and reek and smoke itself that is absolutely unacceptable, not the health issues, either way it is the air you have to breathe that is affected.

Being forced to watch a smoker in action is, and always has been, about as sexy as watching someone eat diarrhoea on a sandwich.

Nothing wrong with your feelings. At all.

But there's not much you can do about it I'm afraid, I'd just try and stick to neutral places since most of them are smoke free, thank God, and wait it out.

Devilsmommy · 20/11/2025 01:46

raspberryberet2020 · 20/11/2025 01:40

Yuck, smokers are so grim and gross. They always stink too - always. And as for sitting in a room with a nicotine addict - not a chance. Vomit.

Hated it back in the 80s when it was common, loathe it now. Never had anything to do with it being unhealthy, it's just such an ugly, anti social habit.

It's totally imcomparable to any other habit like eating junk or having a drink of course, as those don't stink up the actual air you breathe, linger in your hair, clothes etc and make you stink like a dirty ashtray. It's your air, health and comfort that's being sullied by the grotty smoker, whereas when they drink or eat something you are unaffected. For me it is the stench and reek and smoke itself that is absolutely unacceptable, not the health issues, either way it is the air you have to breathe that is affected.

Being forced to watch a smoker in action is, and always has been, about as sexy as watching someone eat diarrhoea on a sandwich.

Nothing wrong with your feelings. At all.

But there's not much you can do about it I'm afraid, I'd just try and stick to neutral places since most of them are smoke free, thank God, and wait it out.

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😂😂😂 are you related to OP?

raspberryberet2020 · 20/11/2025 01:48

Devilsmommy · 20/11/2025 01:46

😂😂😂 are you related to OP?

😅😆😁Are you incapable of understanding that people have opinions that disagree with your own?

Devilsmommy · 20/11/2025 01:50

raspberryberet2020 · 20/11/2025 01:48

😅😆😁Are you incapable of understanding that people have opinions that disagree with your own?

No. It's just the dramatic grim and gross is ridiculous. Don't like smoking, yes fine, but to be so angry about smokers🙄

MossAndLeaves · 20/11/2025 01:51

I mean this gently, but I think you need to work on your anxiety and think about the impact that's having on DS. Try to start modelling being relaxed about things, even at this age it could help as it shows him that anxiety/habits of overthinking is something that can be broken down and changed.

raspberryberet2020 · 20/11/2025 01:53

Devilsmommy · 20/11/2025 01:50

No. It's just the dramatic grim and gross is ridiculous. Don't like smoking, yes fine, but to be so angry about smokers🙄

You are indeed being ridiculous, imagine pretending you understand for even a fraction of a millisecond how other people feel 🙄 Imagine trying to police a stranger's comments and feelings 🙄

No need to be so enraged that some people find smokers grim, gross and utterly disgusting - as I do.

raspberryberet2020 · 20/11/2025 01:54

MossAndLeaves · 20/11/2025 01:51

I mean this gently, but I think you need to work on your anxiety and think about the impact that's having on DS. Try to start modelling being relaxed about things, even at this age it could help as it shows him that anxiety/habits of overthinking is something that can be broken down and changed.

Nope, don't be daft. she just has to not tell him how she feels and try to stay away from the girlfriend's house, easy peasy. Sorted.

Devilsmommy · 20/11/2025 01:56

raspberryberet2020 · 20/11/2025 01:53

You are indeed being ridiculous, imagine pretending you understand for even a fraction of a millisecond how other people feel 🙄 Imagine trying to police a stranger's comments and feelings 🙄

No need to be so enraged that some people find smokers grim, gross and utterly disgusting - as I do.

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Enraged? I couldn't care less. Wow😂

BauhausOfEliott · 20/11/2025 01:56

Who cares if you find it ‘repulsive’ that she has a couple of cigarettes of an evening? You’re not the one fucking her.

The only reasonable thing in your whole post is when you say ‘obviously it’s none of my business’.

I can’t believe you took your son aside to complain that his girlfriend isn’t healthy enough for you because she has one drink before bed. No wonder he’s got health anxiety if that’s how you carry on.

raspberryberet2020 · 20/11/2025 01:57

Devilsmommy · 20/11/2025 01:56

Enraged? I couldn't care less. Wow😂

Couldn't care less? 😅 Yes, that's why you're endlessly burbling nonsense and trying to police my comments 😂

Thoseslippers · 20/11/2025 01:58

It's OK to not like smoking. I don't smoke and hate the smell. But repulsive is a strong emotional word though. I honestly wouldn't give it that much energy. I think being this invested in it will not end well. It's not really any of your business at this point. Your son is an adult. If its fine by him then you need to just accept it. Otherwise you risk pushing him away or alienating her and causing him misery in the process. Over something that's really quite trivial.

Devilsmommy · 20/11/2025 01:59

raspberryberet2020 · 20/11/2025 01:57

Couldn't care less? 😅 Yes, that's why you're endlessly burbling nonsense and trying to police my comments 😂

Holy crap what are you talking about? I'm not trying to police your comments at all. I'm going to leave now as you're quite obviously trying to start arguments where there don't need to be any

raspberryberet2020 · 20/11/2025 02:03

Thoseslippers · 20/11/2025 01:58

It's OK to not like smoking. I don't smoke and hate the smell. But repulsive is a strong emotional word though. I honestly wouldn't give it that much energy. I think being this invested in it will not end well. It's not really any of your business at this point. Your son is an adult. If its fine by him then you need to just accept it. Otherwise you risk pushing him away or alienating her and causing him misery in the process. Over something that's really quite trivial.

I find smoking utterly and totally repulsive. I mean that sincerely. Being around a smoker is totally vile. So maybe OP just feels the same way I do.

There is absolutely nothing I can do about this feeling, I have found smoking vile and disgusting since childhood. This is not, in any way, hyperbole.

However, now that we are no longer subjected to it in pubs, shops, even hospitals and aeroplanes (it was everywhere in the 80s) I just stay away from smokers altogether. I cannot tolerate being around them, at all, but I would never bring it up in real life, as it is their choice and I can easily stay away from them.

There's nothing at all wrong with what the OP feels, they are her feelings. Her problem is she needs to keep those feelings to herself and needs to stay away from the girlfriend's flat and stick to neutral areas since most are smoke fre.

raspberryberet2020 · 20/11/2025 02:04

Devilsmommy · 20/11/2025 01:59

Holy crap what are you talking about? I'm not trying to police your comments at all. I'm going to leave now as you're quite obviously trying to start arguments where there don't need to be any

Holy crap, are you still burbling your rage endlessly? It would be great if you left now since you are just obviously trying to start arguments.

breezyyy · 20/11/2025 02:21

Maybe put your time to better use and learn another language.