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AIBU to be so shaken and upset by this WhatsApp message from my ex-husband?

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Lilifer · 18/11/2025 14:46

Hi all,
I am looking for some outside perspective (and I maybe am BU for letting it affect me so much) because I feel shaken and upset after a message from my ex-H last night and I’m not sure whether to reply or leave it.

We are divorced and share five children together. Four are young adults now; only my youngest (17, nearly 18) call him John, still lives at home with me. I work full-time and also share care of my 87year-old mum, who lives 200 miles away. Because of a seizure this summer I’m currently not allowed to drive, so everything is trains, lifts, and juggling work/family/medical appointments. It’s been really difficult as I live rurally and public transport is not great here and I don’t have family support.

On Friday I had a neurologist appointment in the nearest city (about 75 minutes away by train). My 17yo drove me the 30 minutes to the station very early, so he wouldn’t miss any school. After the appointment I decided, since I was already most of the way there, and having checked with my son, that I’d continue down to my hometown via train to see my mum overnight. My son has been home on his own before, and he was absolutely fine about it. I came home the next day, again by two trains.

Last night, I sent my ex a friendly, perfectly polite WhatsApp. He and his partner are flying to Rome today to see one of our sons for his 21st. My sister is that son’s godmother and had a gift for him, so I asked my ex if he could take it over with him rather than risk the post. John was going over to his dad’s that evening, so I said I could give the present to him to pass on. Really straightforward, no drama, so I thought.

My ex is generally very difficult with me, quite bitter, and ignores most messages unless he wants something. So when I saw the first line of his reply pop up (“Thanks, I will deliver Anne’s present…”), I thought, oh, that’s unusually civil.

Then I opened the message properly and the rest of it felt like a kick in the stomach. This was his message:

Thanks. I will deliver Anne’s present no bother at all.
I wanted to get in touch but wasn’t sure how to as I absolutely do not want you to say anything to John.
I was irritated and disappointed last Friday to be told down the street that not only was John home alone but that he had done a run to the train on a school day.
John is a great young fella and more than capable of looking after himself but I am curious to understand when things changed so that I am no longer informed when you are away??
If it was reversed I have no doubt you would be irritated.
I am also not happy with him driving to the train on a school day. Whilst I fully understand that you are not driving at the minute, I have no idea how much, if any, school he missed and I am sure he could do without missing more school with football, Skiing trip Maths Days & University Days already eating into Upper Sixth.
Had I been asked it is unlikely that I would have objected but I am not going to pretend that I am not annoyed about hearing all about it down town.
Let me know your thoughts and consider what you would think if the situation was reversed.”

I felt the tone was accusatory, condescending and borderline hostile, as if I’d been negligent or deceitful.

For context:
– There was absolutely nothing unsafe about the situation.
– Our son is nearly 18 and perfectly capable.
– He missed no school for me, he only drove me to the early train so that he wouldn’t miss school.
– He’d already agreed to me staying with my mum that night.
– The whole thing is a non-issue blown up into a moral lecture.

It hit me at 9.30pm, after a really long day at work, and it absolutely floored me emotionally. Communication with him always stresses me out, but this felt unnecessarily punitive and completely disproportionate. He could have asked a simple question; instead he delivered a long rant framed as “concern,” implying I’d done something inappropriate or irresponsible.

I don’t know whether to respond and clarify things calmly, reply but set a boundary, or just ignore it say nothing at all because it’s so condescending. He expects a level of behavior from me that he doesn’t hold himself to.

Has anyone dealt with an ex like this, someone who is mostly cold/ignoring, then suddenly pops up with a hostile lecture framed as “concern”? How do you handle it without letting it wreck your evening? I’m also feeling a bit fragile as am facing a likely epilepsy diagnosis and I feel I really can’t deal with this sort of stress from him right now 😔

Any advice appreciated.

OP posts:
Lilifer · 18/11/2025 16:34

Just at the dentist now but thank you all so much I’ll reply in a bit you’ve already cheered me up greatly

OP posts:
Whyherewego · 18/11/2025 16:35

Fluffyholeysocks · 18/11/2025 14:51

I'd just give a breezy 'No need to worry, John didnt miss any school. I'll send the present over tonight, thanks for taking it'.

Yep this is fine. Don't go into details

Mimilamore · 18/11/2025 16:37

Yes I like the idea of a thumbs up emoji and then starve of oxygen..

ThatCyanCat · 18/11/2025 16:37

I'd use the melted face emoji.

AcrossthePond55 · 18/11/2025 16:40

@Lilifer

Don't engage, he's looking for a reason to argue and try to assert control. Many times silence speaks louder than words. This is one of those times. Just ignore the message as you will be able to ignore ALL messages once John turns 18.

As far as late night messages, if you have an iPhone you can set up a 'Do Not Disturb' specifically for him on Focus that will automatically 'silence' his calls and texts during a time you specify. I have one set up for my estranged husband (who is prone to drunk calls/messages) for 8pm - 6 am.

Mothership4two · 18/11/2025 16:40

OP your ex is basically a knob. Everything you did was perfectly reasonable

Itworkedout · 18/11/2025 16:44

What happens on your days is none of his business. John is old enough to drive and stay over night by himself he is nearly 18. He is trying to exert control because he no longer has it. Once John is 18 there won’t be a reason to communicate. I hope your appointment went ok. It sounds like you have enough plates to juggle with your health and seeing your mum.

Neverplayleapfrogwithmrpipes · 18/11/2025 16:46

Send him this emoji 🦐 and keep him guessing what you mean!

Bollihobs · 18/11/2025 16:47

Lilifer · 18/11/2025 15:19

This is what I was thinking to reply:

Hi Ex-h
I’m not engaging in this. John is almost 18, responsible, and missed no lessons on Friday.
What I will say is this: I am not going to respond to late-night reprimands or messages written in this tone. If you have a genuine concern, raise it with me in person. Anything sent like this in future will not get a reply.

This is great OP - at the end of the day you have to reply as you not as us and you have to, whilst gritting your teeth, maintain some sense of a functioning relationship until the day you can be fully free of this twat. But this is a good "Nope, not having that" level of response. And yes, I'd show your son too - you can tell him that forewarned is forearmed just in case his Dad starts another convo about the subject.

TamarindCottage · 18/11/2025 16:48

Lilifer · 18/11/2025 14:46

Hi all,
I am looking for some outside perspective (and I maybe am BU for letting it affect me so much) because I feel shaken and upset after a message from my ex-H last night and I’m not sure whether to reply or leave it.

We are divorced and share five children together. Four are young adults now; only my youngest (17, nearly 18) call him John, still lives at home with me. I work full-time and also share care of my 87year-old mum, who lives 200 miles away. Because of a seizure this summer I’m currently not allowed to drive, so everything is trains, lifts, and juggling work/family/medical appointments. It’s been really difficult as I live rurally and public transport is not great here and I don’t have family support.

On Friday I had a neurologist appointment in the nearest city (about 75 minutes away by train). My 17yo drove me the 30 minutes to the station very early, so he wouldn’t miss any school. After the appointment I decided, since I was already most of the way there, and having checked with my son, that I’d continue down to my hometown via train to see my mum overnight. My son has been home on his own before, and he was absolutely fine about it. I came home the next day, again by two trains.

Last night, I sent my ex a friendly, perfectly polite WhatsApp. He and his partner are flying to Rome today to see one of our sons for his 21st. My sister is that son’s godmother and had a gift for him, so I asked my ex if he could take it over with him rather than risk the post. John was going over to his dad’s that evening, so I said I could give the present to him to pass on. Really straightforward, no drama, so I thought.

My ex is generally very difficult with me, quite bitter, and ignores most messages unless he wants something. So when I saw the first line of his reply pop up (“Thanks, I will deliver Anne’s present…”), I thought, oh, that’s unusually civil.

Then I opened the message properly and the rest of it felt like a kick in the stomach. This was his message:

Thanks. I will deliver Anne’s present no bother at all.
I wanted to get in touch but wasn’t sure how to as I absolutely do not want you to say anything to John.
I was irritated and disappointed last Friday to be told down the street that not only was John home alone but that he had done a run to the train on a school day.
John is a great young fella and more than capable of looking after himself but I am curious to understand when things changed so that I am no longer informed when you are away??
If it was reversed I have no doubt you would be irritated.
I am also not happy with him driving to the train on a school day. Whilst I fully understand that you are not driving at the minute, I have no idea how much, if any, school he missed and I am sure he could do without missing more school with football, Skiing trip Maths Days & University Days already eating into Upper Sixth.
Had I been asked it is unlikely that I would have objected but I am not going to pretend that I am not annoyed about hearing all about it down town.
Let me know your thoughts and consider what you would think if the situation was reversed.”

I felt the tone was accusatory, condescending and borderline hostile, as if I’d been negligent or deceitful.

For context:
– There was absolutely nothing unsafe about the situation.
– Our son is nearly 18 and perfectly capable.
– He missed no school for me, he only drove me to the early train so that he wouldn’t miss school.
– He’d already agreed to me staying with my mum that night.
– The whole thing is a non-issue blown up into a moral lecture.

It hit me at 9.30pm, after a really long day at work, and it absolutely floored me emotionally. Communication with him always stresses me out, but this felt unnecessarily punitive and completely disproportionate. He could have asked a simple question; instead he delivered a long rant framed as “concern,” implying I’d done something inappropriate or irresponsible.

I don’t know whether to respond and clarify things calmly, reply but set a boundary, or just ignore it say nothing at all because it’s so condescending. He expects a level of behavior from me that he doesn’t hold himself to.

Has anyone dealt with an ex like this, someone who is mostly cold/ignoring, then suddenly pops up with a hostile lecture framed as “concern”? How do you handle it without letting it wreck your evening? I’m also feeling a bit fragile as am facing a likely epilepsy diagnosis and I feel I really can’t deal with this sort of stress from him right now 😔

Any advice appreciated.

Your exh is an arse and is looking for and found a (non-existent) reason to berate you. Ignore him, or failing that, tell him to fuck off!

Sillysalamander · 18/11/2025 16:50

smallglassbottle · 18/11/2025 14:51

He's absolutely nuts. The 'child' is virtually an adult 😂

Is your ex a control freak?

My ex used to message me like this. Like he was scolding a child. And he was exceptionally controlling and up his own arse.

Abracadabrador · 18/11/2025 16:52

You're overthinking this too much, he would love that he's got to you.

Reply 'bore off, you are not to contact me again in any way.' and block him.

Or 'yeah, I'm not reading all that. Don't contact me again, cheers.'

No reason to have any contact at all with him. Enjoy freedom.

Takeoutyourhen · 18/11/2025 16:52

Did you leave the relationship? He is still trying to exert control over you as others have said and he gives no hoots about upsetting you during your personal difficult time.
If it helps, whenever you receive a message from him, silently or audibly tell your phone that he is an absolute cunt and make sure you don’t voice note it!

BaalSatanas · 18/11/2025 16:53

Don’t give him the satisfaction of a reply

Anyahyacinth · 18/11/2025 16:53

Fluffyholeysocks · 18/11/2025 14:51

I'd just give a breezy 'No need to worry, John didnt miss any school. I'll send the present over tonight, thanks for taking it'.

This is perfect, no rise to his inflammatory message given...just beautiful 💐

SconehengeRevenge · 18/11/2025 16:53

A poster on here once said she replies to every message from her controlling arse of an ex with "thank you for letting me know"
And that's it.

Your message is fine, but you don't owe him an explanation

Chorusgirl · 18/11/2025 16:53

Men who have very little to do with the daily grind of juggling kids, work, home life, sick and aging parents, not to mention the OP’s significant health worries if her own added to the mental load and then think they get to take the moral high ground when they don’t agree with a typical mum-trying-to-make-it-all-work-for-everyone juggle, give me the absolute RAGE 😡 YANBU op and I hope your appointment was helpful.

AgDulAmach · 18/11/2025 16:54

My sister is like this and tbh the only thing that messes with her head is to totally agree with her. I could do that because she has no power over me, you probably can't because of the situation unfortunately. But it is fun. So when she said I was a terrible daughter because of some made-up issue with my mother I said 'Yes, you're totally right, I'm awful.' What was interesting is that she then backtracked and said 'I don't mean you're awful but this was a terrible thing to do.' I just replied, 'again, totally correct, so terrible.' It was such fun that just remembering it gives me a bit of a thrill. The amazing thing was after a few attempts, she just stopped. Like all bullies she wanted a reaction - a fight, a disagreement, some way to feel powerful. When I just agreed and agreed it made her look like a total nincompoop - what she was saying was so stupid that me agreeing was a huge insult.

There is no point in defending yourself in any way against this idiot. IMO even your very measured text is too much. In your shoes I would say 'thank you very much for your feedback, I'll bear it in mind.' What can he say to that? Pretty much nothing.

FeministThrowingAPrincessParty · 18/11/2025 16:55

His message is ridiculous and you are overreacting. Just ignore and don’t let it get to you.

MannequinsArePeopleToo · 18/11/2025 16:55

TaylorNotSoSwift · 18/11/2025 14:50

He’d be getting a thumbs up and nothing more.

What she said.

babytum · 18/11/2025 16:57

Your message sounds like he has got under your skin, I wouldn’t let him know he has.

Something light like, Thanks for taking the present. John, (our almost adult son) said he was fine.
Otherwise don’t bother replying because he’s being pathetic but also looking for a reaction.
Such as ass hole but you can only control your reaction not his actions 🙄🙄

PeonyPatch · 18/11/2025 16:58

This is such over sharing OP

Canttakeitanymore1 · 18/11/2025 16:59

The only way to respond to this irrational, condescending rant is to reply back 'noted'. It will drive him absolutely nuts. Men like this THRIVE on control and dominance and feeling like they can pull your strings anytime they want. Don't dignify it with anything further than the above response, or you're giving him exactly what he wants - the reaction he's trying to provoke in you with his message.

I had a very similar themed message from my toxic ex today - part of it went something like this "I have observed DD has become very reluctant to wear her coat outside. Are you allowing her to go out without her coat in this weather??" Etc etc etc. it's ALWAYS framed as a lecture/insult to your parenting disguised as concern for the kids. These men are pathetic. We have to rise above it, and don't give the reaction they want.

Mulledjuice · 18/11/2025 17:02

Fluffyholeysocks · 18/11/2025 14:51

I'd just give a breezy 'No need to worry, John didnt miss any school. I'll send the present over tonight, thanks for taking it'.

This.

Beyond that, check in with your son but dont let him discover that he is the subject of tension between you.

BauhausOfEliott · 18/11/2025 17:03

Lilifer · 18/11/2025 15:19

This is what I was thinking to reply:

Hi Ex-h
I’m not engaging in this. John is almost 18, responsible, and missed no lessons on Friday.
What I will say is this: I am not going to respond to late-night reprimands or messages written in this tone. If you have a genuine concern, raise it with me in person. Anything sent like this in future will not get a reply.

I wouldn't reply at all, but if you really feel you need to, I would suggest saying nothing more than 'John didn't miss any school to drop me at the station, or on any other occasion - not sure if there's been a misunderstanding but I hope that reassures you. Thanks for agreeing to take Anne's present over to Rome for DS and hope you have a nice time with him in Rome.'

If he then continues to bang on about it, I'd just completely ignore him. He wants to know that he's got to you, so don't give him that satisfaction. Your son is very close to being 18 now and you'll no longer have to converse with his father at all after that.