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AIBU to be so shaken and upset by this WhatsApp message from my ex-husband?

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Lilifer · 18/11/2025 14:46

Hi all,
I am looking for some outside perspective (and I maybe am BU for letting it affect me so much) because I feel shaken and upset after a message from my ex-H last night and I’m not sure whether to reply or leave it.

We are divorced and share five children together. Four are young adults now; only my youngest (17, nearly 18) call him John, still lives at home with me. I work full-time and also share care of my 87year-old mum, who lives 200 miles away. Because of a seizure this summer I’m currently not allowed to drive, so everything is trains, lifts, and juggling work/family/medical appointments. It’s been really difficult as I live rurally and public transport is not great here and I don’t have family support.

On Friday I had a neurologist appointment in the nearest city (about 75 minutes away by train). My 17yo drove me the 30 minutes to the station very early, so he wouldn’t miss any school. After the appointment I decided, since I was already most of the way there, and having checked with my son, that I’d continue down to my hometown via train to see my mum overnight. My son has been home on his own before, and he was absolutely fine about it. I came home the next day, again by two trains.

Last night, I sent my ex a friendly, perfectly polite WhatsApp. He and his partner are flying to Rome today to see one of our sons for his 21st. My sister is that son’s godmother and had a gift for him, so I asked my ex if he could take it over with him rather than risk the post. John was going over to his dad’s that evening, so I said I could give the present to him to pass on. Really straightforward, no drama, so I thought.

My ex is generally very difficult with me, quite bitter, and ignores most messages unless he wants something. So when I saw the first line of his reply pop up (“Thanks, I will deliver Anne’s present…”), I thought, oh, that’s unusually civil.

Then I opened the message properly and the rest of it felt like a kick in the stomach. This was his message:

Thanks. I will deliver Anne’s present no bother at all.
I wanted to get in touch but wasn’t sure how to as I absolutely do not want you to say anything to John.
I was irritated and disappointed last Friday to be told down the street that not only was John home alone but that he had done a run to the train on a school day.
John is a great young fella and more than capable of looking after himself but I am curious to understand when things changed so that I am no longer informed when you are away??
If it was reversed I have no doubt you would be irritated.
I am also not happy with him driving to the train on a school day. Whilst I fully understand that you are not driving at the minute, I have no idea how much, if any, school he missed and I am sure he could do without missing more school with football, Skiing trip Maths Days & University Days already eating into Upper Sixth.
Had I been asked it is unlikely that I would have objected but I am not going to pretend that I am not annoyed about hearing all about it down town.
Let me know your thoughts and consider what you would think if the situation was reversed.”

I felt the tone was accusatory, condescending and borderline hostile, as if I’d been negligent or deceitful.

For context:
– There was absolutely nothing unsafe about the situation.
– Our son is nearly 18 and perfectly capable.
– He missed no school for me, he only drove me to the early train so that he wouldn’t miss school.
– He’d already agreed to me staying with my mum that night.
– The whole thing is a non-issue blown up into a moral lecture.

It hit me at 9.30pm, after a really long day at work, and it absolutely floored me emotionally. Communication with him always stresses me out, but this felt unnecessarily punitive and completely disproportionate. He could have asked a simple question; instead he delivered a long rant framed as “concern,” implying I’d done something inappropriate or irresponsible.

I don’t know whether to respond and clarify things calmly, reply but set a boundary, or just ignore it say nothing at all because it’s so condescending. He expects a level of behavior from me that he doesn’t hold himself to.

Has anyone dealt with an ex like this, someone who is mostly cold/ignoring, then suddenly pops up with a hostile lecture framed as “concern”? How do you handle it without letting it wreck your evening? I’m also feeling a bit fragile as am facing a likely epilepsy diagnosis and I feel I really can’t deal with this sort of stress from him right now 😔

Any advice appreciated.

OP posts:
Livelovebehappy · 18/11/2025 15:46

I’d just totally ignore his rant. Just respond with ‘Thanks for taking the present over. Much appreciated. I’ll send it with John this evening. Have a safe trip!’ And just leave it at that. You don’t owe him an explanation, and it sounds like he’s being controlling. Remove his ability to control, and you’ve won the battle.

Zonder · 18/11/2025 15:47

Lilifer · 18/11/2025 15:19

This is what I was thinking to reply:

Hi Ex-h
I’m not engaging in this. John is almost 18, responsible, and missed no lessons on Friday.
What I will say is this: I am not going to respond to late-night reprimands or messages written in this tone. If you have a genuine concern, raise it with me in person. Anything sent like this in future will not get a reply.

Excellent response.

TreeDudette · 18/11/2025 15:49

I'd ignore that shit. Why does he need to be informed that John was home alone? He's being a twat, do not dignify with a reponse.

OnePiece23 · 18/11/2025 15:49

He sounds like a piece of shit.

Also had my epilepsy diagnosis earlier this year after having my license suspended for 6 months, until I could take medication. Just so you aware, whilst you are waiting for your license back ask the DVLA if you would be covered under section 88 (may have to double check this). It allows you to drive whilst waiting for your driving license to come back. If your neurologist agrees. Good luck x

MrsBeltane · 18/11/2025 15:49

Can you block him on all forms of communication? John is old enough to sort his own contact with Mr Knobhead.

WeNeedToTalkAboutIT · 18/11/2025 15:50

Lilifer · 18/11/2025 15:19

This is what I was thinking to reply:

Hi Ex-h
I’m not engaging in this. John is almost 18, responsible, and missed no lessons on Friday.
What I will say is this: I am not going to respond to late-night reprimands or messages written in this tone. If you have a genuine concern, raise it with me in person. Anything sent like this in future will not get a reply.

No don't send this. It's very obvious that you've thought it through carefully and made effort to reply.

Just do not reply. What happens in your household is none of his business, especially since his son did not miss school. You do not need to justify yourself to him. The end.

timetostandup79 · 18/11/2025 15:50

I 100% echo the advice of ignoring the reprimand. I say this from experience, my ex is the master of late night upsetting messages and accusations. Do not rise to it. It's the only way to deal with it. Say thanks for helping with the present. Nothing more.

BunnyLake · 18/11/2025 15:51

fireandlightening · 18/11/2025 15:40

p.s. don't engage with him at all. just ignore. I've learned this the very hard way (and after reading a lot around high-conflict personalities) Less is more. Or just respond with a thumbs up or 'noted'.

I should have read stuff on it. My ex is high conflict like OP’s ex but I would send knee jerk texts back. Wish I’d just ignored. I have learnt but it’s taken many years.

SilenceInside · 18/11/2025 15:51

The problem with that message is it is engaging with him, despite saying that you won’t. It is responding to his late night message written in a reprimanding tone, even through it says you won’t respond to that sort of message. You don’t actually want him to raise concerns in person, surely? And these are not genuine concerns and to discuss them like this gives them some veneer of validity. It also shows that he riled you and upset you.

You don’t need to wait for a future message to decide not to reply! You can do it now. Just respond saying “John will bring the present with him, as agreed”. And that’s it.

Fluffyhoglets · 18/11/2025 15:52

Fluffyholeysocks · 18/11/2025 14:51

I'd just give a breezy 'No need to worry, John didnt miss any school. I'll send the present over tonight, thanks for taking it'.

This.

Ignore the rest of it.

notacooldad · 18/11/2025 15:52

*Hi Ex-h
I’m not engaging in this. John is almost 18, responsible, and missed no lessons on Friday.
What I will say is this: I am not going to respond to late-night reprimands or messages written in this tone. If you have a genuine concern, raise it with me in person. Anything sent like this in future will not get a reply.
Excellent response.

Its not an excellent response because she said she is not engaging and then engages.
A better thing to do is just to delete and ignore.
What a knobhead he is!

MYOB12 · 18/11/2025 15:53

Seriously, just reply with 👍 and give it no further thought. At almost 18 there is absolutely no need for any contact between the two of you. Don’t message him, and if he messages you, ignore.

fireandlightening · 18/11/2025 15:54

BunnyLake · 18/11/2025 15:51

I should have read stuff on it. My ex is high conflict like OP’s ex but I would send knee jerk texts back. Wish I’d just ignored. I have learnt but it’s taken many years.

It took me a while too. I would respond with lengthy reasonable responses justifying/defending my actions. He would then pick holes in that and go off on another tangent that would generate fresh conflict. He was addicted to the conflict, I just wanted to be left alone. Not responding takes the power away from him to keep the conflict alive. It was hard to put in practice but transformational. I do still need to vent to my friends though about the unreasonableness of his messages, but I learned not to engage with him on it.

ChillBarrog · 18/11/2025 15:55

I would have answered....."are you high?" and put a 🤣 response on his message.

Ronathediva13 · 18/11/2025 15:57

ThatCyanCat · 18/11/2025 14:57

Goodness, I can't imagine why he's an ex. What a pompous twat.

I was just about to write “pompous twat”!!!

Much as a reply dripping in sarcasm is so tempting, don’t rise to it. Just feel glad he’s the ex!

MassiveOvaryaction · 18/11/2025 15:59

Lilifer · 18/11/2025 15:19

This is what I was thinking to reply:

Hi Ex-h
I’m not engaging in this. John is almost 18, responsible, and missed no lessons on Friday.
What I will say is this: I am not going to respond to late-night reprimands or messages written in this tone. If you have a genuine concern, raise it with me in person. Anything sent like this in future will not get a reply.

Honestly, I wouldn't bother. It'll only let him know he succeeded in getting to you.

I think I'd just go with 👍🏻

Ocelotfeet27 · 18/11/2025 15:59

I wouldn't message that, as a PP says it suggests he has annoyed you. I agree on a thumbs up and 'Noted, for information he didn't miss any school and is 18 in XX weeks.'

user90276865197 · 18/11/2025 16:01

No, don’t reply at all.
If the youngest is nearly 18, you are no longer obliged to have anything to do with him if you dont want to. Block/delete his number is what I’d do, don't give him the satisfaction of a reply…or at least turn off “seen messages” so he can’t tell you've read them!

TaupeRaven · 18/11/2025 16:03

The tone, timing and content of this message was all very deliberate; your controlling ex has done his best to get under your skin and it's hardly surprising, given all you're dealing with, that it rattled you.

He's an arsehole, you're well shot of him, and his message doesn't even deserve a response 💐

WaryHiker · 18/11/2025 16:04

Dear Steve,

One of the many benefits of not being married to you is that I no longer have to put up with your smug and condescending rants.

If you have any future 'concerns,' feel free to take them up with John. He will doubtless think you are just as much of a dickhead as I do, but he may feel more able to pretend he gives a damn.

Enjoy your trip.

CheeseIsMyIdol · 18/11/2025 16:04

ChillBarrog · 18/11/2025 15:55

I would have answered....."are you high?" and put a 🤣 response on his message.

This would be best. Treat him like a laughingstock twat, not someone who has any power over you.

why are you still entangled financially with him?

elviswhorley · 18/11/2025 16:06

MagpiePi · 18/11/2025 14:55

I'd just say 'John will be round later with the present, thanks', and ignore the rest.

This. Ignoring superfluous message text is a fun skill.
Maybe he will type it all out again and you can ignore that too :D

Noshadelamp · 18/11/2025 16:08

Lilifer · 18/11/2025 15:19

This is what I was thinking to reply:

Hi Ex-h
I’m not engaging in this. John is almost 18, responsible, and missed no lessons on Friday.
What I will say is this: I am not going to respond to late-night reprimands or messages written in this tone. If you have a genuine concern, raise it with me in person. Anything sent like this in future will not get a reply.

I wouldn't give him the satisfaction.
Don't let him know he's gotten to you!

If you don't want messages after a certain time at night you can set up your phone so you only get messages or calls from certain people. I'm on android and it's really handy, I'm sure iPhone has it as well.

gottakeeponmoving · 18/11/2025 16:09

Your youngest is almost 18. He can drive and is independent. I think it's triggered a realisation in your ex that he has lost his final control over you.

He doesn't like it and he wants to upset you. If you reply he will know he's succeeded. Please don't give him the satisfaction.

The very best response you can give is .. no response.

Trust me it will piss him off way more than any reply.

Didntask · 18/11/2025 16:11

TaylorNotSoSwift · 18/11/2025 14:50

He’d be getting a thumbs up and nothing more.

This