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AIBU to be so shaken and upset by this WhatsApp message from my ex-husband?

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Lilifer · 18/11/2025 14:46

Hi all,
I am looking for some outside perspective (and I maybe am BU for letting it affect me so much) because I feel shaken and upset after a message from my ex-H last night and I’m not sure whether to reply or leave it.

We are divorced and share five children together. Four are young adults now; only my youngest (17, nearly 18) call him John, still lives at home with me. I work full-time and also share care of my 87year-old mum, who lives 200 miles away. Because of a seizure this summer I’m currently not allowed to drive, so everything is trains, lifts, and juggling work/family/medical appointments. It’s been really difficult as I live rurally and public transport is not great here and I don’t have family support.

On Friday I had a neurologist appointment in the nearest city (about 75 minutes away by train). My 17yo drove me the 30 minutes to the station very early, so he wouldn’t miss any school. After the appointment I decided, since I was already most of the way there, and having checked with my son, that I’d continue down to my hometown via train to see my mum overnight. My son has been home on his own before, and he was absolutely fine about it. I came home the next day, again by two trains.

Last night, I sent my ex a friendly, perfectly polite WhatsApp. He and his partner are flying to Rome today to see one of our sons for his 21st. My sister is that son’s godmother and had a gift for him, so I asked my ex if he could take it over with him rather than risk the post. John was going over to his dad’s that evening, so I said I could give the present to him to pass on. Really straightforward, no drama, so I thought.

My ex is generally very difficult with me, quite bitter, and ignores most messages unless he wants something. So when I saw the first line of his reply pop up (“Thanks, I will deliver Anne’s present…”), I thought, oh, that’s unusually civil.

Then I opened the message properly and the rest of it felt like a kick in the stomach. This was his message:

Thanks. I will deliver Anne’s present no bother at all.
I wanted to get in touch but wasn’t sure how to as I absolutely do not want you to say anything to John.
I was irritated and disappointed last Friday to be told down the street that not only was John home alone but that he had done a run to the train on a school day.
John is a great young fella and more than capable of looking after himself but I am curious to understand when things changed so that I am no longer informed when you are away??
If it was reversed I have no doubt you would be irritated.
I am also not happy with him driving to the train on a school day. Whilst I fully understand that you are not driving at the minute, I have no idea how much, if any, school he missed and I am sure he could do without missing more school with football, Skiing trip Maths Days & University Days already eating into Upper Sixth.
Had I been asked it is unlikely that I would have objected but I am not going to pretend that I am not annoyed about hearing all about it down town.
Let me know your thoughts and consider what you would think if the situation was reversed.”

I felt the tone was accusatory, condescending and borderline hostile, as if I’d been negligent or deceitful.

For context:
– There was absolutely nothing unsafe about the situation.
– Our son is nearly 18 and perfectly capable.
– He missed no school for me, he only drove me to the early train so that he wouldn’t miss school.
– He’d already agreed to me staying with my mum that night.
– The whole thing is a non-issue blown up into a moral lecture.

It hit me at 9.30pm, after a really long day at work, and it absolutely floored me emotionally. Communication with him always stresses me out, but this felt unnecessarily punitive and completely disproportionate. He could have asked a simple question; instead he delivered a long rant framed as “concern,” implying I’d done something inappropriate or irresponsible.

I don’t know whether to respond and clarify things calmly, reply but set a boundary, or just ignore it say nothing at all because it’s so condescending. He expects a level of behavior from me that he doesn’t hold himself to.

Has anyone dealt with an ex like this, someone who is mostly cold/ignoring, then suddenly pops up with a hostile lecture framed as “concern”? How do you handle it without letting it wreck your evening? I’m also feeling a bit fragile as am facing a likely epilepsy diagnosis and I feel I really can’t deal with this sort of stress from him right now 😔

Any advice appreciated.

OP posts:
Lilifer · 18/11/2025 21:53

I’ve always tried to shield the kids from the impact of his behavior on me, although I guess leaving their dad was a massive clue on that one, but I make a point of not bad mouthing him or telling them stuff he has said to me but now that they are all nearly over 18, eldest is 25 I’m not going to do that anymore. The older 4 all know he can be a twat, one of my daughters has fallen out with him so many times that he is now quite careful about what he says to her becasue she doesn’t take his crap, the others keep the peace but he has really upset them all over the years with various outbursts even to them in front of their friends which has really embarrassed them. They refer to it as daddy going psycho 🥹

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Blueskystoday · 18/11/2025 21:56

This is where "👍" is a great response.
He's an arsehole and confirms your decision to leave.
I think drop the rope with updates.
Reduce contact to the minimum that feels comfortable.
Keep reminding yourself that you made the right decision and he hates it.

OakleyAnnie · 18/11/2025 22:07

I think you should enjoy a feeling of schadenfreude OP. he’s being a sanctimonious pig because he can’t control you any more. He’s annoyed by your independence from him and your obvious good relationship with John. Just smile and nod.

nightswimming1 · 18/11/2025 22:09

What a saint you are OP in not wanting to criticise this dreadful man to his kids. I hope this thread gives you the reassurance you needed and that things work out well for you health and otherwise. I’d definitely be breezy in comms in future and not let him know he’s rattled you if you can bear it. Good luck.

SugarPlumpFairyCakes · 18/11/2025 22:12

He’s being a dick. He knows this dumb message would upset you.

SugarPlumpFairyCakes · 18/11/2025 22:14

Please don’t worry about keeping the peace in front of your dcs. Your being civil at most is plenty.

moose62 · 18/11/2025 22:16

Most of your DC are adults and by your own admission know he is a prize twat so I wouldn't worry about shielding them. Just avoid all out war!

Namechange29383929383 · 18/11/2025 22:18

In a matter of months if John goes to uni he will have no idea who he’s giving lifts to or whether he’s turned up to his lecture that day. What a twit. Most people would be pleased to have a teenage son that can be trusted not to wreck the house and who will get up early just to help someone out.

rainbowsnack · 18/11/2025 22:21

Lilifer · 18/11/2025 14:46

Hi all,
I am looking for some outside perspective (and I maybe am BU for letting it affect me so much) because I feel shaken and upset after a message from my ex-H last night and I’m not sure whether to reply or leave it.

We are divorced and share five children together. Four are young adults now; only my youngest (17, nearly 18) call him John, still lives at home with me. I work full-time and also share care of my 87year-old mum, who lives 200 miles away. Because of a seizure this summer I’m currently not allowed to drive, so everything is trains, lifts, and juggling work/family/medical appointments. It’s been really difficult as I live rurally and public transport is not great here and I don’t have family support.

On Friday I had a neurologist appointment in the nearest city (about 75 minutes away by train). My 17yo drove me the 30 minutes to the station very early, so he wouldn’t miss any school. After the appointment I decided, since I was already most of the way there, and having checked with my son, that I’d continue down to my hometown via train to see my mum overnight. My son has been home on his own before, and he was absolutely fine about it. I came home the next day, again by two trains.

Last night, I sent my ex a friendly, perfectly polite WhatsApp. He and his partner are flying to Rome today to see one of our sons for his 21st. My sister is that son’s godmother and had a gift for him, so I asked my ex if he could take it over with him rather than risk the post. John was going over to his dad’s that evening, so I said I could give the present to him to pass on. Really straightforward, no drama, so I thought.

My ex is generally very difficult with me, quite bitter, and ignores most messages unless he wants something. So when I saw the first line of his reply pop up (“Thanks, I will deliver Anne’s present…”), I thought, oh, that’s unusually civil.

Then I opened the message properly and the rest of it felt like a kick in the stomach. This was his message:

Thanks. I will deliver Anne’s present no bother at all.
I wanted to get in touch but wasn’t sure how to as I absolutely do not want you to say anything to John.
I was irritated and disappointed last Friday to be told down the street that not only was John home alone but that he had done a run to the train on a school day.
John is a great young fella and more than capable of looking after himself but I am curious to understand when things changed so that I am no longer informed when you are away??
If it was reversed I have no doubt you would be irritated.
I am also not happy with him driving to the train on a school day. Whilst I fully understand that you are not driving at the minute, I have no idea how much, if any, school he missed and I am sure he could do without missing more school with football, Skiing trip Maths Days & University Days already eating into Upper Sixth.
Had I been asked it is unlikely that I would have objected but I am not going to pretend that I am not annoyed about hearing all about it down town.
Let me know your thoughts and consider what you would think if the situation was reversed.”

I felt the tone was accusatory, condescending and borderline hostile, as if I’d been negligent or deceitful.

For context:
– There was absolutely nothing unsafe about the situation.
– Our son is nearly 18 and perfectly capable.
– He missed no school for me, he only drove me to the early train so that he wouldn’t miss school.
– He’d already agreed to me staying with my mum that night.
– The whole thing is a non-issue blown up into a moral lecture.

It hit me at 9.30pm, after a really long day at work, and it absolutely floored me emotionally. Communication with him always stresses me out, but this felt unnecessarily punitive and completely disproportionate. He could have asked a simple question; instead he delivered a long rant framed as “concern,” implying I’d done something inappropriate or irresponsible.

I don’t know whether to respond and clarify things calmly, reply but set a boundary, or just ignore it say nothing at all because it’s so condescending. He expects a level of behavior from me that he doesn’t hold himself to.

Has anyone dealt with an ex like this, someone who is mostly cold/ignoring, then suddenly pops up with a hostile lecture framed as “concern”? How do you handle it without letting it wreck your evening? I’m also feeling a bit fragile as am facing a likely epilepsy diagnosis and I feel I really can’t deal with this sort of stress from him right now 😔

Any advice appreciated.

Epilepsy-haver here 👋

This stuck out to me "Communication with him always stresses me out,"

Stress makes my seizures worse - do you have techniques to reduce your stress levels/help you destress when he does stress you out?

It can be a vicious circle - You get stressed, have a seizure which makes you more stressed because you've had a seizure and so on.

Fingers crossed you get answers soon. Just treat him like the dick he is 😁

Skippydoodle · 18/11/2025 22:23

My reply would have been ‘go fuck yourself’. That’s what he deserves. But hey that’s just me. Then I would block him. Your youngest son is almost 18, you DO NOT have to have any further involvement with this arsehole.

Mygrandkidsaregreat · 18/11/2025 22:34

He’s upset because someone else told him and he felt foolish for not knowing ,that’s all.
Hes trying to be reasonable but can’t say he felt foolish or irritated he didn’t know your arrangements.
if it were me I’d say noted,but also suggest your son is almost 18 and didn’t miss school and you and him make your own arrangements.He is a fine mature young man who copes admirably!

Wowthatwasabigstep · 18/11/2025 22:37

The message I would want to send in your position would be along the lines of ‘oh do naff off there’s a poppet’ however I have recently been practising a marvellous trick as shown to me by my teenage child, of reading a WhatsApp message without it showing as having been red, thus leaving an irritating fellow parent wondering if I will ever read their drivel……very satisfying.

Unfortunately it won’t help on this occasion but maybe next time.

Blogswife · 18/11/2025 22:51

I wouldn’t dignify it with an answer . As soon as John is 18 you can block the twat!

JohnofWessex · 18/11/2025 22:53

When my oldest turned 16 and we had little contact before that I wrote to her and said never contact me again by phone unless its a genuine emergency

She could use post or email otherwise

Laura997 · 18/11/2025 22:55

Iwouldlikeanewjob · 18/11/2025 15:01

He’s an arse.

I would send a breezy reply ignoring his tone, dont let him know he’s upset you, keep it simple and make some of right noises since you have to have some form of relationship going forward.

Hi Ted, thanks for taking the present, much appreciated.
Thought I had mentioned I was going to see mum on Friday since I was halfway there. John was fine with it, no school was missed, it is an important year for him and he’s doing great.
Have a great time with other DS
Lilifer

This. 100%.

Then say out loud- prick, glad I'm not with that bellend and move on with your evening.

enpeatea · 18/11/2025 22:58

This sounds just like my daughter’s ex. Won’t matter how you respond, it will be ‘wrong/rude’

Discobooloo · 18/11/2025 22:59

The thing that annoys people like this the most, is no reply at all. No reaction, nothing

pawsatively · 18/11/2025 23:08

I’d tell him to fuck off personally. Then block him. Your son is almost 18. No need for contact with this arsehole anymore.

PorridgeEater · 18/11/2025 23:14

Fluffyholeysocks · 18/11/2025 14:51

I'd just give a breezy 'No need to worry, John didnt miss any school. I'll send the present over tonight, thanks for taking it'.

This. And don't take the Ex H so seriously. Also don't bother John with it - not worth any more of your or his time.
Soon John will be 18, that may help.

Lilifer · 18/11/2025 23:23

rainbowsnack · 18/11/2025 22:21

Epilepsy-haver here 👋

This stuck out to me "Communication with him always stresses me out,"

Stress makes my seizures worse - do you have techniques to reduce your stress levels/help you destress when he does stress you out?

It can be a vicious circle - You get stressed, have a seizure which makes you more stressed because you've had a seizure and so on.

Fingers crossed you get answers soon. Just treat him like the dick he is 😁

@rainbowsnackactually when I had my seizure last June, it happened just after lunch, and I had spent the morning in back and forth WhatsApp communication with ex husband as he was ranting to me about something financial related to do with one of the kids, I remember feeling extremely stressed and agitated by the messages as I was trying to work from home at the time, a couple of hours later I popped out to get something from the shops and whilst at the shops I had my first tonic clonic seizure. So I really need to get a grip on this, cbt or whatever, and limit my contact with him to e mail only.

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Thoseslippers · 18/11/2025 23:30

He's fkn nuts. John can legally live alone. He doesn't need anyone's permission to be at home alone for the evening wtf
Honestly your ex just sounds massively controlling

ilovesushi · 18/11/2025 23:38

He's a twat. Don't feel bad about his ridiculous, patronising message, instead feel the biggest sense of relief and joy that you are rid of this absolute piece of shit. I wouldn't bother with any sort of reply at all. Certainly don't explain and don't apologise. Don't rise to it. No anger, no guilt, no nothing. It's all hot air and nonsense from an absolute twat.

justasking111 · 18/11/2025 23:42

Go NC when John is 18. Graduation, wedding etc liaise with your children only.

I don't suppose he treats his present partner any better. At least you're no longer in her shoes.

Negroany · 18/11/2025 23:44

"thanks for taking the gift, John hasn't missed any school"

End. Of.

ScreamingBeans · 18/11/2025 23:45

Just don't respond to him at all. You don't owe him any explanation or any contact.

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