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AIBU to be so shaken and upset by this WhatsApp message from my ex-husband?

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Lilifer · 18/11/2025 14:46

Hi all,
I am looking for some outside perspective (and I maybe am BU for letting it affect me so much) because I feel shaken and upset after a message from my ex-H last night and I’m not sure whether to reply or leave it.

We are divorced and share five children together. Four are young adults now; only my youngest (17, nearly 18) call him John, still lives at home with me. I work full-time and also share care of my 87year-old mum, who lives 200 miles away. Because of a seizure this summer I’m currently not allowed to drive, so everything is trains, lifts, and juggling work/family/medical appointments. It’s been really difficult as I live rurally and public transport is not great here and I don’t have family support.

On Friday I had a neurologist appointment in the nearest city (about 75 minutes away by train). My 17yo drove me the 30 minutes to the station very early, so he wouldn’t miss any school. After the appointment I decided, since I was already most of the way there, and having checked with my son, that I’d continue down to my hometown via train to see my mum overnight. My son has been home on his own before, and he was absolutely fine about it. I came home the next day, again by two trains.

Last night, I sent my ex a friendly, perfectly polite WhatsApp. He and his partner are flying to Rome today to see one of our sons for his 21st. My sister is that son’s godmother and had a gift for him, so I asked my ex if he could take it over with him rather than risk the post. John was going over to his dad’s that evening, so I said I could give the present to him to pass on. Really straightforward, no drama, so I thought.

My ex is generally very difficult with me, quite bitter, and ignores most messages unless he wants something. So when I saw the first line of his reply pop up (“Thanks, I will deliver Anne’s present…”), I thought, oh, that’s unusually civil.

Then I opened the message properly and the rest of it felt like a kick in the stomach. This was his message:

Thanks. I will deliver Anne’s present no bother at all.
I wanted to get in touch but wasn’t sure how to as I absolutely do not want you to say anything to John.
I was irritated and disappointed last Friday to be told down the street that not only was John home alone but that he had done a run to the train on a school day.
John is a great young fella and more than capable of looking after himself but I am curious to understand when things changed so that I am no longer informed when you are away??
If it was reversed I have no doubt you would be irritated.
I am also not happy with him driving to the train on a school day. Whilst I fully understand that you are not driving at the minute, I have no idea how much, if any, school he missed and I am sure he could do without missing more school with football, Skiing trip Maths Days & University Days already eating into Upper Sixth.
Had I been asked it is unlikely that I would have objected but I am not going to pretend that I am not annoyed about hearing all about it down town.
Let me know your thoughts and consider what you would think if the situation was reversed.”

I felt the tone was accusatory, condescending and borderline hostile, as if I’d been negligent or deceitful.

For context:
– There was absolutely nothing unsafe about the situation.
– Our son is nearly 18 and perfectly capable.
– He missed no school for me, he only drove me to the early train so that he wouldn’t miss school.
– He’d already agreed to me staying with my mum that night.
– The whole thing is a non-issue blown up into a moral lecture.

It hit me at 9.30pm, after a really long day at work, and it absolutely floored me emotionally. Communication with him always stresses me out, but this felt unnecessarily punitive and completely disproportionate. He could have asked a simple question; instead he delivered a long rant framed as “concern,” implying I’d done something inappropriate or irresponsible.

I don’t know whether to respond and clarify things calmly, reply but set a boundary, or just ignore it say nothing at all because it’s so condescending. He expects a level of behavior from me that he doesn’t hold himself to.

Has anyone dealt with an ex like this, someone who is mostly cold/ignoring, then suddenly pops up with a hostile lecture framed as “concern”? How do you handle it without letting it wreck your evening? I’m also feeling a bit fragile as am facing a likely epilepsy diagnosis and I feel I really can’t deal with this sort of stress from him right now 😔

Any advice appreciated.

OP posts:
rosiebl · 18/11/2025 20:26

Be glad your youngest is 17, by next year, you can block your ex-husband and never think about him again. I’ve got years left to go with mine. It’s tiresome. Totally ignore him.

Toadstoollover · 18/11/2025 20:30

This is the sort of shit that I get too so I totally understand how stressful it can be.

herbetta · 18/11/2025 20:31

Hi. I know that this is a little off topic, but you can get help with travel costs etc with Epilepsy- either via PIP or other schemes. Maybe check with CAB or an Epilepsy charity etc.

RememberBeKindWithKaren · 18/11/2025 20:39

I can't be sure as I'm obviously not in your shoes Op but I think it probably is best not to give it too much thought.. You needed help, your son helped and it didn't affect his schooling. It's all good. Quick response to your ex and move on..

Sleepybear1234 · 18/11/2025 20:43

Fluffyholeysocks · 18/11/2025 14:51

I'd just give a breezy 'No need to worry, John didnt miss any school. I'll send the present over tonight, thanks for taking it'.

Completely agree with this x

Lilifer · 18/11/2025 20:49

The only thing is that whilst I’m free of this sort of shit once johns 18 there is still years ahead of graduations, maybe weddings christenings etc where I just want us all to be able to get along and be nice to each other in front of our kids, that’s really important to me but i don’t see how that’s going to when he clearly harbours a lot of resentment towards me - things weren’t always as bad as this, it was fairly civilised for a couple of years but in the last two years or so it’s really started to go downhill, it’s hard cos we have these amazing kids between us and it would be so much easier for them if they saw their dad and mum get along well.

OP posts:
99bottlesofkombucha · 18/11/2025 20:50

Lilifer · 18/11/2025 15:19

This is what I was thinking to reply:

Hi Ex-h
I’m not engaging in this. John is almost 18, responsible, and missed no lessons on Friday.
What I will say is this: I am not going to respond to late-night reprimands or messages written in this tone. If you have a genuine concern, raise it with me in person. Anything sent like this in future will not get a reply.

Op, you don’t have to do what he says. So first thing is show your son, just in a haha way, so your ex knows he doesn’t get to hide these from his kids by commanding you. Second is reply
He didn’t miss school, was there some reason you couldn’t ask him? I showed him this message, he is nearly 18 you realise. So not sure why you sent this, unless is this an offer to drive us both next time I have an appointment? That would be very supportive of you. I’ll drop present off with John, x knows it’s coming (and tell your other child it’s coming, so he knows his dad has something for you)

99bottlesofkombucha · 18/11/2025 20:52

Sleepybear1234 · 18/11/2025 20:43

Completely agree with this x

Nope I would definitely say I’ve shown it to John, to make it really clear you don’t do what he says and he won’t get away with things by telling you not to tell the kids.

99bottlesofkombucha · 18/11/2025 20:53

Oh gosh I’ve just read re the rugby tournament. I’d change my reply to ‘He didn’t miss school, was there some reason you couldn’t ask him? I showed him this message, he is nearly 18 you realise, it’s not like when you left him alone to go to <rugby tournament>. So not sure why you sent this, unless is this an offer to drive us both next time I have an appointment? That would be very supportive of you. I’ll drop present off with John, x knows it’s coming.

you'll get more respect in the future if he knows you won’t take his crap or hide it from the kids.

CatAsstrophe · 18/11/2025 20:54

Lilifer · 18/11/2025 15:19

This is what I was thinking to reply:

Hi Ex-h
I’m not engaging in this. John is almost 18, responsible, and missed no lessons on Friday.
What I will say is this: I am not going to respond to late-night reprimands or messages written in this tone. If you have a genuine concern, raise it with me in person. Anything sent like this in future will not get a reply.

If you send this, you're playing right into his hands. He'll know he's pissed you off and he'll enjoy that.

He sounds like a dickhead. Thank your lucky stars that he's your ex, and not current😁 Twat!

SilenceInside · 18/11/2025 20:57

As tempting as it is to write a longer reply, just don’t get sucked in to it all. Just response with a brief comment about John bringing the present over later, and make no mention of anything else. Drop the rope and try to laugh to yourself at his pomposity and his inability to resist trying to scold you.

Cherrysoup · 18/11/2025 20:57

‘LOL’

ChikinLikin · 18/11/2025 20:59

GoodThings2025 · 18/11/2025 14:56

This. Don't give it any more thought. He probably had a bad day.

Seconded.
This is brilliant.

Kreepture · 18/11/2025 21:09

Lilifer · 18/11/2025 20:49

The only thing is that whilst I’m free of this sort of shit once johns 18 there is still years ahead of graduations, maybe weddings christenings etc where I just want us all to be able to get along and be nice to each other in front of our kids, that’s really important to me but i don’t see how that’s going to when he clearly harbours a lot of resentment towards me - things weren’t always as bad as this, it was fairly civilised for a couple of years but in the last two years or so it’s really started to go downhill, it’s hard cos we have these amazing kids between us and it would be so much easier for them if they saw their dad and mum get along well.

All you can do is continue to be polite and reasonable in person, like you would be with anyone, and never be the one to pick a fight. I call it my 'customer service face'

Assuming your kids are intelligent young adults they will very soon spot the dickhead in the dynamic.

My 16yo has very much clocked her DDad, and his older DD doesn't talk to him (my DSd)

What you're not obliged to do, is remain in any contact with him outside your obligations, or invite conversation if you don't want to talk to him.

DeepRubySwan · 18/11/2025 21:17

Yeah you are correct to be upset. It's none of his business so just ignore it. Just don't respond at all.

CheeseIsMyIdol · 18/11/2025 21:18

Lilifer · 18/11/2025 20:49

The only thing is that whilst I’m free of this sort of shit once johns 18 there is still years ahead of graduations, maybe weddings christenings etc where I just want us all to be able to get along and be nice to each other in front of our kids, that’s really important to me but i don’t see how that’s going to when he clearly harbours a lot of resentment towards me - things weren’t always as bad as this, it was fairly civilised for a couple of years but in the last two years or so it’s really started to go downhill, it’s hard cos we have these amazing kids between us and it would be so much easier for them if they saw their dad and mum get along well.

It’s more important that your kids see you as a confident woman who can stand up for herself. A nervously peace-keeping people-pleasing doormat isn’t a good role model.

Dissappearedupmyownarse · 18/11/2025 21:22

Lilifer · 18/11/2025 14:46

Hi all,
I am looking for some outside perspective (and I maybe am BU for letting it affect me so much) because I feel shaken and upset after a message from my ex-H last night and I’m not sure whether to reply or leave it.

We are divorced and share five children together. Four are young adults now; only my youngest (17, nearly 18) call him John, still lives at home with me. I work full-time and also share care of my 87year-old mum, who lives 200 miles away. Because of a seizure this summer I’m currently not allowed to drive, so everything is trains, lifts, and juggling work/family/medical appointments. It’s been really difficult as I live rurally and public transport is not great here and I don’t have family support.

On Friday I had a neurologist appointment in the nearest city (about 75 minutes away by train). My 17yo drove me the 30 minutes to the station very early, so he wouldn’t miss any school. After the appointment I decided, since I was already most of the way there, and having checked with my son, that I’d continue down to my hometown via train to see my mum overnight. My son has been home on his own before, and he was absolutely fine about it. I came home the next day, again by two trains.

Last night, I sent my ex a friendly, perfectly polite WhatsApp. He and his partner are flying to Rome today to see one of our sons for his 21st. My sister is that son’s godmother and had a gift for him, so I asked my ex if he could take it over with him rather than risk the post. John was going over to his dad’s that evening, so I said I could give the present to him to pass on. Really straightforward, no drama, so I thought.

My ex is generally very difficult with me, quite bitter, and ignores most messages unless he wants something. So when I saw the first line of his reply pop up (“Thanks, I will deliver Anne’s present…”), I thought, oh, that’s unusually civil.

Then I opened the message properly and the rest of it felt like a kick in the stomach. This was his message:

Thanks. I will deliver Anne’s present no bother at all.
I wanted to get in touch but wasn’t sure how to as I absolutely do not want you to say anything to John.
I was irritated and disappointed last Friday to be told down the street that not only was John home alone but that he had done a run to the train on a school day.
John is a great young fella and more than capable of looking after himself but I am curious to understand when things changed so that I am no longer informed when you are away??
If it was reversed I have no doubt you would be irritated.
I am also not happy with him driving to the train on a school day. Whilst I fully understand that you are not driving at the minute, I have no idea how much, if any, school he missed and I am sure he could do without missing more school with football, Skiing trip Maths Days & University Days already eating into Upper Sixth.
Had I been asked it is unlikely that I would have objected but I am not going to pretend that I am not annoyed about hearing all about it down town.
Let me know your thoughts and consider what you would think if the situation was reversed.”

I felt the tone was accusatory, condescending and borderline hostile, as if I’d been negligent or deceitful.

For context:
– There was absolutely nothing unsafe about the situation.
– Our son is nearly 18 and perfectly capable.
– He missed no school for me, he only drove me to the early train so that he wouldn’t miss school.
– He’d already agreed to me staying with my mum that night.
– The whole thing is a non-issue blown up into a moral lecture.

It hit me at 9.30pm, after a really long day at work, and it absolutely floored me emotionally. Communication with him always stresses me out, but this felt unnecessarily punitive and completely disproportionate. He could have asked a simple question; instead he delivered a long rant framed as “concern,” implying I’d done something inappropriate or irresponsible.

I don’t know whether to respond and clarify things calmly, reply but set a boundary, or just ignore it say nothing at all because it’s so condescending. He expects a level of behavior from me that he doesn’t hold himself to.

Has anyone dealt with an ex like this, someone who is mostly cold/ignoring, then suddenly pops up with a hostile lecture framed as “concern”? How do you handle it without letting it wreck your evening? I’m also feeling a bit fragile as am facing a likely epilepsy diagnosis and I feel I really can’t deal with this sort of stress from him right now 😔

Any advice appreciated.

He needs to get a grip as your son is nearly an adult and you're being a bit melodramatic by feeling 'shaken' by his tone.... 🙄

Homegrownberries · 18/11/2025 21:25

Lilifer · 18/11/2025 20:49

The only thing is that whilst I’m free of this sort of shit once johns 18 there is still years ahead of graduations, maybe weddings christenings etc where I just want us all to be able to get along and be nice to each other in front of our kids, that’s really important to me but i don’t see how that’s going to when he clearly harbours a lot of resentment towards me - things weren’t always as bad as this, it was fairly civilised for a couple of years but in the last two years or so it’s really started to go downhill, it’s hard cos we have these amazing kids between us and it would be so much easier for them if they saw their dad and mum get along well.

You're going to have to let go of that idea. You could spend the rest of your life walking on eggshells. It won't work. You can't control whether he is nice to you in front of the kids. He's going to do what he's going to do and that's on him. You are not responsible for his behaviour. You are not responsible for making him act like a decent human being. Lift that burden off yourself.

MeridaBrave · 18/11/2025 21:26

Reply say - “John didn’t miss any school, he drove me to the station before school.”

Dogmum1983 · 18/11/2025 21:28

TaylorNotSoSwift · 18/11/2025 14:50

He’d be getting a thumbs up and nothing more.

This was my exact thought as I was reading the post 🤣🤣

He is still wanting to control and as John is coming to 18 he knows he ain’t going to have a say for much longer …

smile and wave op , smile and wave 👍

loveawineloveacrisp · 18/11/2025 21:39

I'd stop communicating with him if possible. I had to do that with my ex as he loved a twatty message and I just didn't want his bullshit in my life any more. It sounds like your kids are old enough to communicate with their dad and make arrangements for themselves. And I doubt the 17yo will appreciate being spoken about like a child.

loveawineloveacrisp · 18/11/2025 21:40

@Homegrownberries100% agree with this.

Blondeshavemorefun · 18/11/2025 21:44

Ohnobackagain · 18/11/2025 19:24

I liked your proposed reply @Lilifer and you could also say ‘don’t remember you running uni visit by me, but happens I’m fine with it because, Like me, I know you have our son’s best interests at heart’

make yourself a calendar where you can tear off each day until you’re done with the arsehole!

Oh I like this

CinnamonBuns67 · 18/11/2025 21:51

I'd ignore him, sometimes the best response is no response and I would stop having communication with him as theres no reason for it at all, at 17 your youngest is more than old enough to manage his relationship with his Dad.

ChavsAreReal · 18/11/2025 21:53

Lilifer · 18/11/2025 20:49

The only thing is that whilst I’m free of this sort of shit once johns 18 there is still years ahead of graduations, maybe weddings christenings etc where I just want us all to be able to get along and be nice to each other in front of our kids, that’s really important to me but i don’t see how that’s going to when he clearly harbours a lot of resentment towards me - things weren’t always as bad as this, it was fairly civilised for a couple of years but in the last two years or so it’s really started to go downhill, it’s hard cos we have these amazing kids between us and it would be so much easier for them if they saw their dad and mum get along well.

You're right, its not going to happen.

Have you thought about why he's got worse in recent years? Because he's losing his grip on you.

And they're not children anymore, they're not fooled.

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