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AIBU to be so shaken and upset by this WhatsApp message from my ex-husband?

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Lilifer · 18/11/2025 14:46

Hi all,
I am looking for some outside perspective (and I maybe am BU for letting it affect me so much) because I feel shaken and upset after a message from my ex-H last night and I’m not sure whether to reply or leave it.

We are divorced and share five children together. Four are young adults now; only my youngest (17, nearly 18) call him John, still lives at home with me. I work full-time and also share care of my 87year-old mum, who lives 200 miles away. Because of a seizure this summer I’m currently not allowed to drive, so everything is trains, lifts, and juggling work/family/medical appointments. It’s been really difficult as I live rurally and public transport is not great here and I don’t have family support.

On Friday I had a neurologist appointment in the nearest city (about 75 minutes away by train). My 17yo drove me the 30 minutes to the station very early, so he wouldn’t miss any school. After the appointment I decided, since I was already most of the way there, and having checked with my son, that I’d continue down to my hometown via train to see my mum overnight. My son has been home on his own before, and he was absolutely fine about it. I came home the next day, again by two trains.

Last night, I sent my ex a friendly, perfectly polite WhatsApp. He and his partner are flying to Rome today to see one of our sons for his 21st. My sister is that son’s godmother and had a gift for him, so I asked my ex if he could take it over with him rather than risk the post. John was going over to his dad’s that evening, so I said I could give the present to him to pass on. Really straightforward, no drama, so I thought.

My ex is generally very difficult with me, quite bitter, and ignores most messages unless he wants something. So when I saw the first line of his reply pop up (“Thanks, I will deliver Anne’s present…”), I thought, oh, that’s unusually civil.

Then I opened the message properly and the rest of it felt like a kick in the stomach. This was his message:

Thanks. I will deliver Anne’s present no bother at all.
I wanted to get in touch but wasn’t sure how to as I absolutely do not want you to say anything to John.
I was irritated and disappointed last Friday to be told down the street that not only was John home alone but that he had done a run to the train on a school day.
John is a great young fella and more than capable of looking after himself but I am curious to understand when things changed so that I am no longer informed when you are away??
If it was reversed I have no doubt you would be irritated.
I am also not happy with him driving to the train on a school day. Whilst I fully understand that you are not driving at the minute, I have no idea how much, if any, school he missed and I am sure he could do without missing more school with football, Skiing trip Maths Days & University Days already eating into Upper Sixth.
Had I been asked it is unlikely that I would have objected but I am not going to pretend that I am not annoyed about hearing all about it down town.
Let me know your thoughts and consider what you would think if the situation was reversed.”

I felt the tone was accusatory, condescending and borderline hostile, as if I’d been negligent or deceitful.

For context:
– There was absolutely nothing unsafe about the situation.
– Our son is nearly 18 and perfectly capable.
– He missed no school for me, he only drove me to the early train so that he wouldn’t miss school.
– He’d already agreed to me staying with my mum that night.
– The whole thing is a non-issue blown up into a moral lecture.

It hit me at 9.30pm, after a really long day at work, and it absolutely floored me emotionally. Communication with him always stresses me out, but this felt unnecessarily punitive and completely disproportionate. He could have asked a simple question; instead he delivered a long rant framed as “concern,” implying I’d done something inappropriate or irresponsible.

I don’t know whether to respond and clarify things calmly, reply but set a boundary, or just ignore it say nothing at all because it’s so condescending. He expects a level of behavior from me that he doesn’t hold himself to.

Has anyone dealt with an ex like this, someone who is mostly cold/ignoring, then suddenly pops up with a hostile lecture framed as “concern”? How do you handle it without letting it wreck your evening? I’m also feeling a bit fragile as am facing a likely epilepsy diagnosis and I feel I really can’t deal with this sort of stress from him right now 😔

Any advice appreciated.

OP posts:
NutmegsMum · 18/11/2025 17:54

I love these responses. Thumbs up is EXCELLENT

OpheliaNightingale · 18/11/2025 17:56

@Lilifer obviously I don’t know your history with this man, what he was like when you were together, what the break up was about, but it sounds to me like he is just an opportunist who was presented with a reason to have a go at you. I’d be tempted to just 👍 the message! Have you heard of ‘grey rock’? Or ‘let them’ theory? It’s quite freeing!

You must keep your stress levels to a minimum to prevent another seizure. My teenage son had a first seizure this summer, we are going for an MRI scan at Christmastime to try to get to the bottom of it. So I understand a little of what you’re going through xx

crazeekat · 18/11/2025 18:01

I would tell him to stick his bitter judgement up his arse and not to talk to u again. U are divorced ur kids are grown, even John and u don’t need to tell him jack shit. In fact the only thing to tell him is to fuck off and let that be the last u say to him.

Aligirlbear · 18/11/2025 18:01

Just reply with a thumbs up or single word “noted”. No need to engage in any responses to his points or involve your son.

CountryMouse22 · 18/11/2025 18:03

You have to look after your own health, never mind what your ex was whining about. I had a stroke two years ago, more less in a coma for 2 months, so now don't worry a jot what anyone else thinks. I haven't been able to drive since then either. You must look after yourself now. The ex sounds a real pain!

Patchedupsocks · 18/11/2025 18:05

MagpiePi · 18/11/2025 14:55

I'd just say 'John will be round later with the present, thanks', and ignore the rest.

This 100%

HorrorFan81 · 18/11/2025 18:07

Aligirlbear · 18/11/2025 18:01

Just reply with a thumbs up or single word “noted”. No need to engage in any responses to his points or involve your son.

I very much like 'noted'. Would piss him right off. He is banking on upsetting you. Don't let on he has. If he continues sending messages like that can you block him? Assume at this point you dont actually need contact with him?

Needlenardlenoo · 18/11/2025 18:08

"Don't fight with pigs. You get all muddy and the pig enjoys it."

Leave him on read.

Travelodge · 18/11/2025 18:08

He is being ridiculous and is clearly a controlling dickhead, but tbh I think you are over-reacting. If it were me, though, I would still want him to know the true facts. You absolutely do not have to follow his instructions about not mentioning it to John - I would (assuming he was happy about being in his own overnight).

"Thanks for taking the present.

My staying away overnight so I could visit Mum was a last-minute decision, which John has confirmed he was perfectly happy with. As you say, at nearly 18 he is perfectly capable of looking after himself for one night. He did not miss any school."

LadyLindaT · 18/11/2025 18:11

What a narcissist! I know there is always the instinct to respond, but please ignore as best you can. It's like when you get one of those "Going forward..." messages. Oh, just go away!

Cakeandcardio · 18/11/2025 18:12

It's absolutely controlling and he is wrong. I think though that he genuinely believes he has the option of objecting to this. My dad was like that with me. Doing stupid stuff which was actually quite nasty and this was when I was working as a teacher! Like he still had control over me like a child.
Your ex is a weirdo. As Judge Judy says: don't wrestle with a pig. You will both get dirty and the pig will enjoy it.

Rosscameasdoody · 18/11/2025 18:12

OP your kids are grown. You don’t have to explain yourself to him. Three suggestions for text reply. Get stuffed, thumbs up emoji, or your comments have been noted, thank you.

foreveryoung100 · 18/11/2025 18:15

Do we have the same ex? It is just about control. Mine says I’ve been so difficult over the years but why is he so bitter over me leaving? No reply would be best, or thumbs up if you want to be civil. No need to explain or justify yourself.

Wordsmithery · 18/11/2025 18:22

Fluffyholeysocks · 18/11/2025 14:51

I'd just give a breezy 'No need to worry, John didnt miss any school. I'll send the present over tonight, thanks for taking it'.

Perfect response.
What has struck me from the ex's message is that he expects to be consulted, to decide whether to be magnanimous and give permission, but critically is not prepared to actually lift a finger himself.
If he'd said he would give you a lift next time (and meant it), to save John losing study/school time, and have John over for the night, that'd be a different matter.
He's just trying to exercise the last bits of control over you.
He can wank right off.

Tontostitis · 18/11/2025 18:23

TheRolyPolyByrd · 18/11/2025 14:56

I'd show John the message now he's basically an adult. I'd reply,

I've gone through your concerns with John. As he's so close to being an adult it's really time he responded to your thoughtful concern himself. He didn't miss any school and is quite happy with the amount of independence he has. Thank you for Anne's present etc etc

Edited

If you are going to take this tactic please don't take the advice as you should do is listen to what John feels about the situation. Perhaps John is struggling with the extra responsibility? If you think your ex is just being controlling just ignore him. He can only control you if you let him.

SaltyCara · 18/11/2025 18:24

Your message is good, but instead of telling him you're not going to reply in future, just start not replying from now. At most, say, "Thank you so much for delivering the gift. I hope you have a wonderful trip!" or just thumbs up his message. There is no rule that you HAVE to engage with him (I found this helpful when a friend went bonkers).

BufferingAgain · 18/11/2025 18:32

Ew I got second hand creep just reading this! This creep has had 18 years to control you via the kids and must be panicking seeing this about to disappear, so is having a last ditch attempt. The good news is this loser soon won’t need to interact with you, you’re basically free!

scorpiogirly · 18/11/2025 18:35

Tell him to mind his own business. What goes on at your house and when you are away is nothing to do with him if your son is more than capable of taking care of himself overnight. It's also perfectly acceptable for John to drive you to the station before school. Again, none of his business.

usedtobeaylis · 18/11/2025 18:39

Why do men men love this pompous style of message so much.

I also endorse the thumbs up response.

Endorewitch · 18/11/2025 18:42

Patronising idiot!No wonder he is an ex.Of course you dont need to consult him when you make minor decisions about your almost grown up son. A breezy response is all that is needed. You dont owe him any explanation.

Lavenduhhh · 18/11/2025 18:53

Oh he's awful isn't he

Titasaducksarse · 18/11/2025 18:56

TaylorNotSoSwift · 18/11/2025 14:50

He’d be getting a thumbs up and nothing more.

This.

Although I'd be tempted to also add 'in x months John will be 18' and just leave that there.

ChachaIntheLongrun · 18/11/2025 18:58

Honestly, anything you tell him at this point would make no difference. Your son is almost 18.

PuppyMonkey · 18/11/2025 19:01

The 👍 is devastating. Or maybe a 🙄 would be better. Or a good old fashioned MN Hmm

Or maybe just “lol.”

Tdcp · 18/11/2025 19:03

"Yeah, good one 😂" is all he'd receive from me.