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To think the problem with wealth inequality is that rich people don't know how rich they are?

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Neeroy · 17/11/2025 09:04

Article in the Times today saying that people earning six figures 'don't feel rich'.

Because they are surrounded by six figure earning peers they are comparing themselves to people who have more rather than the 90% of the population that have far less. This is why the budget is poorly received in the news, because rich people think they already shoulder too high a burden when in fact compared to everyone else they still have far more disposable income. Even if they have to cut down on the number of holidays they go on. They aren't sitting in the dark under a blanket. Or only making food that doesn't require turning on the oven.

I don't think they realise how so many people have to live.

www.thetimes.com/article/1fb46414-8f65-436f-8f95-451d69626148?shareToken=8061d939633164c0dfbd805240c8e008

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Icebabyice · 22/11/2025 16:41

Arran2024 · 22/11/2025 16:18

Some people have an avoidant attachment style and having to spend time with their children is actually pretty difficult. A lot of these people will have very good jobs and will pay for nannies to give the children what they can't.

I have known plenty of people like this (I used to work for a bank in the City).

It is hard to overcome an avoidant attachment style. It makes sense for these people to prioritise working hard and paying for childcare.

AI’s take on this…
It is not accurate to say that avoidant attachment types are more likely to be high earners; in fact, their attachment style can lead to financial difficulties, although the link is complex. Some avoidant individuals may be successful in their careers because they prioritize work over relationships, but others may struggle with finances due to avoiding them or engaging in compulsive spending to meet a perceived need for validation. Financial habits are often linked to emotional well-being rather than income potential.

Arran2024 · 22/11/2025 17:46

Icebabyice · 22/11/2025 16:41

AI’s take on this…
It is not accurate to say that avoidant attachment types are more likely to be high earners; in fact, their attachment style can lead to financial difficulties, although the link is complex. Some avoidant individuals may be successful in their careers because they prioritize work over relationships, but others may struggle with finances due to avoiding them or engaging in compulsive spending to meet a perceived need for validation. Financial habits are often linked to emotional well-being rather than income potential.

I'm not saying that everyone with an avoidant attachment style is rich though. I should have made it clear i was responding to a previous comment from someone who queried why have children then work all day. I just knew plenty of people who hated spending time with their families and adored work. They paid staff (or had a stay at home partner who put up with their unavailability) instead.

percypiggy200 · 22/11/2025 17:46

Cornthin · 22/11/2025 15:47

Are you happy @percypiggy200 ?

Crazily so. My DH and DC are heaven on earth. DH and I have date night every week it’s the highlight of my week - we spend all our free time together - we just love to talk to each other - we’ve been together for 12 years and I have been adored all that time and I adore him. My little boy is the most loving, gentle, gorgeous soul. Sometimes I think that my time is running out in some way because I feel there is more happiness than is allowed and so I obsessively text my husband to check that his seatbelt is on for example 🤣

Cornthin · 22/11/2025 17:50

DH and I have date night every week it’s the highlight of my week

I bet it’s the highlight of your week!!

ForJadeQuoter · 22/11/2025 17:52

percypiggy200 · 22/11/2025 17:46

Crazily so. My DH and DC are heaven on earth. DH and I have date night every week it’s the highlight of my week - we spend all our free time together - we just love to talk to each other - we’ve been together for 12 years and I have been adored all that time and I adore him. My little boy is the most loving, gentle, gorgeous soul. Sometimes I think that my time is running out in some way because I feel there is more happiness than is allowed and so I obsessively text my husband to check that his seatbelt is on for example 🤣

What do you do for date night?

percypiggy200 · 22/11/2025 17:58

ForJadeQuoter · 22/11/2025 17:52

What do you do for date night?

We go for dinner - we also both love food and wine and restaurants. Always just the two of us (maybe three times in a year with friends) - some of our friends think this is weird!

ForJadeQuoter · 22/11/2025 18:04

percypiggy200 · 22/11/2025 17:58

We go for dinner - we also both love food and wine and restaurants. Always just the two of us (maybe three times in a year with friends) - some of our friends think this is weird!

What cuisines do you like?

percypiggy200 · 22/11/2025 18:12

ForJadeQuoter · 22/11/2025 18:04

What cuisines do you like?

Everything! Sorry I feel like I have hijacked this thread!

Cornthin · 22/11/2025 18:16

percypiggy200 · 22/11/2025 18:12

Everything! Sorry I feel like I have hijacked this thread!

Your friends think it’s weird to go out for dinner weekly with a husband you barely see?

percypiggy200 · 22/11/2025 18:23

Cornthin · 22/11/2025 18:16

Your friends think it’s weird to go out for dinner weekly with a husband you barely see?

They think it’s weird we always have date night together and not with other couples. I don’t feel like I barely see him. He comes home at 8.15pm - I go to bed at 10.30pm - we are together all weekend. It has never occurred to me before this thread that other couples/families spend all weekend plus many hours a day together.

Cornthin · 22/11/2025 18:27

percypiggy200 · 22/11/2025 18:23

They think it’s weird we always have date night together and not with other couples. I don’t feel like I barely see him. He comes home at 8.15pm - I go to bed at 10.30pm - we are together all weekend. It has never occurred to me before this thread that other couples/families spend all weekend plus many hours a day together.

I think it’s weird your friends think it’s weird!

He is up and out from 6am for 14.5 hours a day. Sees his child almost not at all during the week. No doubt returns at 8.30 quite keen to decompress!

im surprised that it’s only once a week, especially as you’re in Dubai!

Cornthin · 22/11/2025 18:30

he used to work more.

what made him work less @percypiggy200 ?

percypiggy200 · 22/11/2025 18:32

Cornthin · 22/11/2025 18:30

he used to work more.

what made him work less @percypiggy200 ?

A new job where he is more in control.

Cornthin · 22/11/2025 18:33

percypiggy200 · 22/11/2025 18:32

A new job where he is more in control.

I bet you were happy!

percypiggy200 · 22/11/2025 18:38

Cornthin · 22/11/2025 18:33

I bet you were happy!

Oh absolutely. Not just because of the hours but because he is essentially running things himself and he is happy and fulfilled - it was like night and day to be honest.

Cornthin · 22/11/2025 18:53

percypiggy200 · 22/11/2025 18:38

Oh absolutely. Not just because of the hours but because he is essentially running things himself and he is happy and fulfilled - it was like night and day to be honest.

So In previous job he was working even longer hours but wasn’t happy and fulfilled?

Differentforgirls · 22/11/2025 19:45

Satisfiedwithanapple · 22/11/2025 15:19

Children don’t ask to be born to judgy narrow minded people either.

Irony.

Differentforgirls · 22/11/2025 19:50

Cornthin · 22/11/2025 15:20

I fear for your kids if they decide to really go for their career and work long hours @Differentforgirls

They will have you judging them with a curled lip and no doubt want to keep you at arm’s length

They do already. No children though.

Differentforgirls · 22/11/2025 20:01

Cornthin · 22/11/2025 15:46

you would judge them very negatively and be happy if they felt “shame” if you adopted same stance as on this thread

If people feel shame it’s not down to me.

pocketpairs · 22/11/2025 20:03

Spaghettifountain · 17/11/2025 11:19

It's like running speeds. It's all relative. I used to think a sub 30 5k meant I'd be a good runner. Now I'm sub 25, I still don't think I am because the post has moved. Unless you're the richest person in the world, there'll always be another degree of richness that makes you feel less rich.
It's naive, of course.
Do I think people with six figure salaries are rich. No. Well off, but not rich. Rich to me is having savings, investments, holiday homes and no mortgage.
I'm on no where near six figures but I still think that.

It's relative. How much do you earn, have in savings and investments compared to your immediate peers. While I have much less than uni friends, compared to closest friendship group, I'm apperently 'rolling in it' as I have no mortgage and some savings.

Cornthin · 22/11/2025 20:05

Differentforgirls · 22/11/2025 20:01

If people feel shame it’s not down to me.

You said “good” when someone asked why you were trying to shame others

so presumably that would be your feeling of you made your adult child feel ashamed for doing the same

pocketpairs · 22/11/2025 20:13

Bearbookagainandagain · 17/11/2025 11:40

I don't think you understand it either @Neeroy "six figures" goes from "100 000" to "999 999"
It also goes for 100k supporting a family of 5, to 100k supporting a single individual.
It's not one big bucket that you can define as "rich".

I earn 100k, I would have felt very rich with that when I was single about 8 years ago. Actually, I earned half of that and felt rich.

Now, being the main earner of the family with 2 toddlers and a third on the way, and the crazy years of inflation, I definitely don't feel rich.
It's six figures that pays for the mortgage on a semi-detached house that's too small, basic holidays at our parents because we can't afford to travel, no savings, a car that keeps breaking down but we can't afford to replace, commuting over an hour at 6am to avoid peak fares that increase by 20% each year, a childminder and council nursery because we couldn't afford the private nursery anymore...

Nope, that's not rich, that's just trying to maintain basic standards of living that used to be a given 20, 30 years ago.

The shame is on those earnings way way way more than that, who thinks it's ok to pay themselves millions whilst they keep their staff on minimum wages.

Edited

You probably need to budget better. If you're on £100k+ and your partner bringing in something (even £20k pa), you should have savings and be able to travel.

pocketpairs · 22/11/2025 20:16

Boohoo76 · 17/11/2025 11:48

£100k is £5400 after tax, NI and 5% pension contribution. £2k (for mortgage on a two bed terrace where I live), £2k in childcare fees, £495 for monthly railcard. Leaves £900 for all other bills and food. It’s hardly a luxury lifestyle and would not meet any reasonable person’s definition of rich. My dad is on a state pension only and has more than that to spend on food and bills.

"where you choose to live"

Differentforgirls · 22/11/2025 20:18

Cornthin · 22/11/2025 20:05

You said “good” when someone asked why you were trying to shame others

so presumably that would be your feeling of you made your adult child feel ashamed for doing the same

This is you projecting.

pocketpairs · 22/11/2025 20:24

Goldwren1923 · 17/11/2025 12:09

Oh my god another idiotic thread bashing people making “six figures” which can be 100k for a family and is really not a lot as “rich people”.

do you know that in london nowadays you need 300k for a family with young kids not to feel rich but just to have MIDDLE CLASS lifestyle? (Less when they go to school and childcare costs drop provided there is no private schooling)

rich is 500k +

I hope that was sarcasm.

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