Labour's new policies for asylum seekers

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Are rumoured to follow Denmark's, which include the seizure of valuables from people arriving here to pay their accommodation costs.

Is anyone else disgusted by this?! How will it work, they can take people's jewellery, phones etc., and leave them with nothing? What sort of message does that send?

I mean you could argue that, but if you think they’re coming here because we are especially generous above and beyond other countries then you’d be wrong. Since we have just spoke about it, Spain, for one, provides similar levels of support as us. The whole argument that we are too generous in Britain giving away ‘goodies’ is just absolute bollocks.

While Brits do boost the economy in Spain, so do immigrants here by and large. People who have been granted permanent refugee status or those that come here by means other than asylum contribute massively to the economy, as did the Eastern Europeans that were here working under free movement.

We didn’t want those either, and there are not enough young, fit British people able to work to replace the foreign workforce, so let’s hope we don’t live to regret disincentivizing too many people to come and work over here in a few years time.

And yet magically reappears for those deported who make subsequent attempts.

You could try Googling lol

Lol indeed. Good luck getting any money from men paying traffickers.

Migrants have built Britains wealth.
from Romans to Hugenots to Jews to Irish to Afro-Carribeans and on and on. It could be argued that considering England is an island and the vast amount of international interests (read: Empire) plus general trade, the English are a mix of many many many ethnicities, races - somewhere done the gene pool it’s more than likely we all have various heritage lines. I mean, our Royal family are German. And have a mix of Spanish, Greek etc too. We are a broad church of peoples here. It’s a good thing.
Migration isn’t an issue, nor are the 37,000 or so asylum seekers that come to Uk (compare us to Germany and it’s shameful how little asylm seekers we actually take in.). It’s money that is the issue - where is it all going? We make plenty of it here. It’s not going back into industry. It’s not going into the pockets of workers as wages has stagnated. It’s not going into the welfare state. So where is the money….Tax wealth not work.

Have you been to Whitechapel recently?

The truth is, swathes of the country are well and truly fed up with illegal immigration and people shopping around for the best benefits but still visiting the home country they claim is "persecuting and dangerous for" them.

The government needs to do something and quickly as more and more of the population begin to start thinking about giving Reform a chance or worse, voting for an actual "far right" extremist party. It is only a matter of time before some form of the EDL or BNP decide to create a party and run for govt. The Danish system has proven to be successful in reducing illegal migration and more importantly compliant with the ECHR which means it has a chance of been successful.

Whilst ever people bleat that the "Danish system" is racist and far right (they have a centre right govt), they water down the meaning of "far right". Liberals need to be really careful when labelling things "far right" as if people concerned about immigration becomes "far right or extreme" it waters down what is actually far right and makes been "far right" more acceptable.

Migrants haven’t built Britain’s wealth. People are sick to the back teeth of this tired old lie. No matter how much you repeat it, no one believes it.

Britain was built for and by the British. Over the last twenty years, we’ve had more immigration than we’ve had in the last thousand. All the re-writing of history must stop. Claiming that this country would be nothing without immigration is farcical. We had very little until recently.

So they should. I went to school in Spain, no one spoke a word of English. The onus was on me to learn Spanish, and I did.

People are worried about migration as there is a sustained campaign 24/7 pushing migration as a far larger issue than it actually is. Since time memorial when there is a depression which is what we are in now, the rise of stories, propaganda against those that are “different” to “us” always always increases. Think back to no Irish, no Blacks, no Dogs. Think back to the fear at end of 19th C against Jewish communities. Think back to the 1970/80s and the rise of very disturbing far right fringe factions. We are a nation of migrants. We are an an island and really we are all of migrant stock somewhere down the gene pool line. Migration is not the issue. It’s the depression we are in and that needs to be addressed….. we need to look to where the wealth we all create is going and find a way to take back control of that for the good of us all, not just the very very few.

No, since I live absolutely nowhere near there, but if you’re asking me that question because there are a lot of immigrants there and you’re complaining about it, then your post has just proven my point perfectly!

Ok - so who are the British in your view then.

What do you mean? What’s happening in Whitechapel. ( I lived behind the mosque in the 90s as a student and lived in east London for years, so know the area well) wanna know what you mean tho.

I mean, who is anyone? Who are Irish people? Who are Indian people? Who are Nigerian people? Take the logic you would use for that, and apply it here.

That's exactly what happens to migrant children in UK schools. With pretty good outcomes, at least in the London schools I know about.

In your view, who is British? You haven’t answered that.

Because what I think doesn’t matter, you can formulate your own opinion using logic that already exists in your brain.

On an unrelated note I also believe Denmark says areas have to be 70% danish at the very least. This is to prevent ethnic enclaves and to make sure areas are integrated

Yes, I watched a recent programme about this @DebbiesKitchen; it was said people are being moved if necessary to prevent ethnic imbalance and one man was insisting that they shouldn't be taking "his house" from him - which seemed a bit ironic since it was actually a state-provided house and they'd be giving him another one

Otherwise I'm not sure why many are getting so riled up about something which almost certainly won't happen. If the backbenchers don't scupper this the ECHR probably will, so Labour will have to find something else to out-Farage Nigel, and they'll doubtless scupper that too

I worked in Primary schools in E1 for over 20 years. One school had 95-100% Bangladeshi pupils while I was there.

A couple of generations earlier the same school was mainly Jewish.

The Mosque in Brick Lane has a huge Star of David as it was previously a Synagogue which had been converted from a Hugenot chapel.

Now that school is closed because many young are moving out to buy in a cheaper area. (Whitechapel is in walking distance of the City of London not far from Canary Wharf so a very expensive part of London to rent or buy).

So its gentrifying and changing. Again.

I'm not sure what this has to do with Labour asylum policy however.

Your opinion matters to me as you made a comment that Britain was made for and. Y the British and migrants did not have a significant role. The British to me are a wide mix of ethnicities due to Empire, our trading history, the Commonwealth, and sheer fact we are an island. Being British means we are a wide mix of peoples. Our royal family are German descent, with spanish, French, Greek too. Curious to know what your definition and thoughts are.

The ECHR has overturned just 13 UK deportation decisions since 1981.

So i'm not sure why you think they would scupper Labours plans, especially when they haven't scuppered Denmark's policies.

Denmark, of course, is a strong backer of the ECHR, with a mainly left of centre Government.

I think you’ve confused me with another poster.

Yet the "all refugees welcome" deputy leader of the Greens doesnt want 600 illegal men being billeted close to her home.
How deliciously ironic 🤣