Labour's new policies for asylum seekers

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Are rumoured to follow Denmark's, which include the seizure of valuables from people arriving here to pay their accommodation costs.

Is anyone else disgusted by this?! How will it work, they can take people's jewellery, phones etc., and leave them with nothing? What sort of message does that send?

It was all over the news yesterday - the Home Sec was on the BBC and this was reported in the broadsheets.

Haven’t RTFT so apologies to PP who have already replied

Op it's not racist to be sick of services being unavailable because there's too many people living in our small country.

Most of the people arriving here aren't 'fleeing' anything they just see that the UK will give them handouts, which we will. It's disastrous and needs to stop. Saying that isn't racist.

Have you seen the size of our national debt OP? Who would you propose covers the cost of housing these people if using any of their own assets is so dreadfully racist? How much more tax should we as UK residents pay for this? Which of our services should we cut? How should we deal with the ‘racist rot’ instead of literally any form of deterrent is off the cards?
’What about my Nan’s necklace?’ is sentimental nonsense and tbh your privilege is showing.

Why shouldn’t people have to give up assets to fund their accommodation?
people who have lived and contributed in the UK their whole lives are forced to sell assets to fund their own care. How is this different? If you said jewellery was exempt people would convert their cash to bracelets

THIS. You have got to be kidding OP? when my dad developed dementia we had to sell his house to pay for his care (also a vulnerable person). He was utterly heartbroken.

This was after his entire life paying tax into the system. Why is this perfectly acceptable and yet someone coming here to live a funded life isnt? I have great empathy for those fleeing horrific regimes but you cannot say it's fine for UK citizens to have to sell their assets to live in this country but not others. That is deeply unfair.

I agree with this - it is people like you OP who shut down legitimate debate about the detrimental impact unchecked migration is having on the UK that are paving the way for an even more divided Britain.

So it's a little different to what was reported by the OP, particularly as the minister quoted explicitly rules out items of sentimental value. I wonder if this is why OP isn't keen to share the link.

Comparing it to 'Nazi policies' is completely ridiculous. Incidentally, when my relatives were fleeing actual Nazis, they were very glad of the jewellery they managed to smuggle out as selling it helped them to survive in the countries that gave them asylum.

And to be honest, if you can't see the perspective on this one of someone on the breadline in Britain who's had to sell items of sentimental value to them and their family in order to pay a bill, while asylum seekers do not have to pay towards their costs despite having assets, then your empathy has some quite glaring blind spots.

The article specifically says they wouldn’t take jewellery with sentimental value.
I don’t know who is arriving here with cars and e-bikes. And I very much hope they wouldn’t take phones.

But what they will class as sentimental items is different to what actually is a sentimental item. Seizing items of value because you don’t think people deserve to have them is disgusting.

This is one of two things, either someone posing as an extremist with an aim of shifting the discourse further right. Or someone who hasnt genuinely engaged with any of these issues and this is all about moral vanity and projecting their own status as a kind person. Someone who can do so confident they won't experience the consequences of what they propose

It’s a bit different selling a house to find care than stealing jewellery!!!

Seizing items of value because you don’t think people deserve to have them is disgusting

What about my dad's home? is that not of sentimental value to him? why arent you up in arms about that then

We can't all have what we deserve. That's life.

No it isnt, it's exactly the same. My dad couldnt live without care and was vulnerable so he was forced to give up his home.

You explain to me exactly how that is "different"

The other aspect reported on the BBC and, if memory serves, in the Guardian article linked above, is that a general pathway to settlement for refugees is proposed to be expanded to 20 years. Meanwhile they can be returned if HMG deems that conditions have changed. People’s lives will be in limbo.

The good news is that there may be a special pathway for students and employment might be eased somewhat - currently the UK has amongst the most prohibitive employment restrictions on those with asylum claims in process, together with some of the longest processing times. A bad combination.

No I just think the flag shatters whining about the country being “overpopulated” are racist. The issue isn’t the people fleeing war torn countries.

Thank you, I couldn't find it!

Because your dad was wealthy and didn’t face the risk of having everything he owned stolen, just to be returned home with nothing?

The Guardian is accurate as the DM is in true reporting of anything,🤷‍♀️

Never thought I'd say this but they should just actually bring back the Rwanda scheme. It was a stupid mistake by Labour to abandon it

And how would you do that? You may not agree with them but calling them idiots is ridiculous.

Do you mean asylum seekers can work while waiting?

See my original comment - this is an attempt to shift us further right from the side of Farage, this rhetoric achieves nothing else

If we didn’t provide accommodation they would have to sell everything look, at those that fled Germany in WWII they sold everything for a new life.

Ruinously expensive, never proven & not a fraction of the space needed. That Rwanda scheme?

Firstly he was not wealthy, it was a small house and all assets have to go when you are moved into a care home. Secondly, yes, all his assets had to go to fund his care. Calling it being "stolen" in the case of immigrants and not in the case of my dad doesnt change the fact it was the same for both. You can try using semantics to make what happened to my father more reasonable and less painful but it wont wash I'm afraid.