To think you don't wear knickers with shapewear?

[SnippySnappy]

Full-body shapewear like this.

Can't figure this out.

Knickers underneath give VPL (especially with satin skirts/dresses) ... but no knickers plus the lower hook & eye situation is, well, hurty?! Or am I being a wuss?!

What do you do?

I do and it’s lovely, thank you. But the dress hangs better with the slip - the slip doesn’t change my shape.

A corset is part of the outfit when I wear one, and needed under vintage clothing which was cut assuming women cinched in their waist (because they did).

My mother, born in 1924, insisted on wearing a panty girdle and a slip, even when she was wearing trousers. It was quite bizarre, really, as she lost any slimming effect from the girdle by virtue of having the fabric from the slip bunched up around her waist, to say nothing of showing odd bumps with the stocking suspender attachments. I think she just felt naked without them. Needless to say, I refused to have any of it.

Sorry I'm confused: you said you wore a "shaping" slip. But now you are saying it doesn't change your shape? So doesn't that mean the slip you wear is an " ordinary " slip and not a " shaping" slip. Because by definition a " shaping" slip is designed to do just that.

And you are right women did used to actually put their health at risk by compressing their waists to achieve extremely unrealistic hour glass figures. Why you voluntarily want to emulate this practice which, for me at least, appears to be almost akin to self harm, I fail to understand.

If you have VPL through them then the shapewear is either cheap or too tight.
I wear shapewear at least twice a year because of stage work, and the only times I’ve ever seen VPL is if it’s cheap material or the actual garment is too tight fitting.
It requires cotton knickers underneath to allow the circulation of air, prevent sweat stains and to ensure the garment lasts longer

The reason why many mothers put their teenage daughters in panty girdles and the like back in the day had little to do with maintaining a shape and more to do with keeping the boys out 😀!

I'm ashamed to say that wasn't my mother's reasoning. Her view was I should wear a panty girdle to look good and thus attract the boys. With a view to engagement and marriage of course.
She was very traditional in her understanding of a woman's role in society: to catch a man and spend your life being a " good wife", even at the expense of your own ambitions and interest and happiness.

Cheese wire the chuff 😂😂😂
this is so wise and gross

What's with all these disingenuous bullshit comments. Fail to understand my arse. You fully well understand they do it to look good. As is their choice. Because it's hardly rocket science that a slim cinched in waist looks hot and a lardy one - does not.

As for men. They take steroids and all kinds of chemicals to look ripped. They go for hair transplants, pay a lot of money for the privilege. Look up 'looks maxxing', what it entails and how much does it cost. Plus mens shapewear also exists, though it's probably not very popular.

As for 'self harming'. People drink, smoke, use drugs, drunk drive, chronically undersleep, prioritise their job and burn out, eat tons of garbage and get obese, then use chemicals to get slim again, the obese again, eat upfs, lead a sedentary life or engage in extreme sports and do lots of other shit which is 'akin to self harm'. But sure, let's be all mighty and feminist, and police women's underwear. Because you've won the right not to be dictated by men, but someone has to tell those OTHER stupid women what to do, can't have them deciding for themselves now, can we.

I fail to understand what women, who don't wear shapewear, are doing on the thread about it.

The poster is perfectly entitled wear whatever she wants.

And I'm perfectly entitled to wonder why a woman would want to voluntarily put herself through discomfort and possibly to damage her health just so she can have an unrealistically small waist.

It is very relevant to ask who she wants to " look good " for. If she is doing it for herself because she thinks it looks good that is entirely one thing. If she is doing it to please other people, or because she is a " fashion victim" then that is quite another. We live in a society where women have so much pressure on them to look a certain way. Hence the industry around cosmetic surgery, dieting, botox and fillers etc.

As for you trying to police a thread on a public forum: I am entitled to express my view. Even if you don't like it. I'm of a generation that fought hard for women's rights and to try to change their standing in society and I find it strange that some women want to go backwards to the standards of less enlightened times.

I’d end up with the flab squishing out like a rubber ring around my armpits if I wore shapewear, the fat has to go somewhere!
My only time wearing a shaping garment ended with me stopping in a lay-by after the conference to strip the bloody thing off. It was suffocating.

I don’t wear shape wear but always wear a seamless thong and that is what I would wear under what you posted.

I’m trying to explain that a so-called ‘shaping slip’ made of power mesh doesn’t do the job of actually reshaping your body in the way that a corset could.

You don’t ’fail to understand’ and you’re not ‘confused’ - you just want to criticise me for choosing to dress in the way that makes my clothes look good and to suit the vintage lifestyle I sometimes follow.

A modern day corset is pretty comfortable and not at all akin to ‘self harm’. (I think your use of that term is offensive to people who actually self harm but we’ll let that slide).

For the avoidance of doubt, I dress for myself. I’m neither a fashion victim nor a mantrap. I enjoy having fun with clothes and wearing different looks. I’m a professional independent woman and I like to look out together and stylish. The two things can both be true.

You do you.

I wear the body suits, not thong ones. Most brands are very thing at the crotch and a bit pinchy.
But it's never occured to me to use pants as that's an extra layer of bumphullyness that I am trying to get rid of .

I gave up on knickers decades ago. I wear a bra but that is all and if I could get away with not wearing a bra I would

I occasionally wear leggings under my trousers if the weather is particularly cold and I am working outside

I find all underwear especially the granny knickers everyone seems to swear by so uncomfortable and irritating. I really hate the feel of material which then stops and my legs are bare underneath my trousers. It’s a sensory thing, like wearing odd socks etc

Sorry but if a "shaping" slip doesn't reshape your body why is it called a "shaping" slip? I genuinely don't understand you wear a " shaping slip" if it does exactly the same job as a traditional slip i.e to stop the dress or skirt clinging to you and enable it hang properly.

I'm not trying to "make you feel bad" about your dress choice. But having lived through the times when the norm was to wear restrictive clothing a nostalgia for those times is perplexing to me.
Especially since the women's clothing that was the norm when I was young really did go along way to restricting a woman's life style and enjoyment of life.

When I used the analogy of self harm I was very careful to say that is my personal point of view. Because I would view voluntarily wearing a corset that restricted my breathing, possibly displaced my internal body organs, restricted what activities I could pursue and was extremely uncomfortable, would constitute self harm to me.

I'm pleased you dress for yourself and you enjoy looking the way you do. But that doesn't mean to say I don't find your choices in any way understandable.

If the poppers go your flaps are vulnerable to the elements!

I always wear knickers. The poppers used to pop off on me all the time.

I always go pants.

Some shapewear rides up and I don't fancy garrotting my bits, especially with rows of pesky hook & eyes!

I just snorted my tea at 'cheese wire chuff'😁😅

Bit nippy out there today for a breezy hoo-haa!

I wear knickers underneath but that because I don't wash my shape wear after every wear (often only have them on for a couple of hours). I'm not a sweaty person and washing does cause the shape wear to lose its structure quicker.

Shaping slips smooth. They don't change your basic shape in the way corsetry does, but the do smoothe out the bumps a bit.

I think you’re being more oppressive of women than shapewear is.

Thong. Definitely not no underwear.

Because we have choice of wearing what we want to.

Why do not men do it then?