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To think you don't wear knickers with shapewear?

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SnippySnappy · 16/11/2025 19:32

Full-body shapewear like this.

Can't figure this out.

Knickers underneath give VPL (especially with satin skirts/dresses) ... but no knickers plus the lower hook & eye situation is, well, hurty?! Or am I being a wuss?!

What do you do?

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OP posts:
Eyesopenwideawake · 16/11/2025 21:46

Gettingbysomehow · 16/11/2025 20:15

I'm 63 and you wouldnt catch me wearing shareware. I don't really need to to be fair but back in the days when I was fat I wore a corset so tight to a party that my ankles started swelling horribly and by the end of the night they looked like elephants feet! Truly horrible. I haven't worn shapewear since.

I'm 62 and you wouldn't catch me wearing any underwear, ever!

Doggymummar · 16/11/2025 21:47

Millytante · 16/11/2025 20:37

You reminded me of a girl I knew in the 1980s. She always wore full slap, and usually dressed in super-clingy short dresses, and always looked fantabulous. (A dead ringer for Tina Turner.)
Something got us all rambling on about VPLs, and she calmly explained that her only underwear with such dresses was always just a Lillet.
That certainly shut the whole back room of the pub up (mostly us women roaring laughing at all the horrified blokes who’d never imagined such depraved habits existed. Their main objection was that somehow, this wasn't playing fair! Poor lambs)

What's a lillet?

NamelessNancy · 16/11/2025 21:54

Auroraloves · 16/11/2025 21:40

Yeah, there is no squeezing involved in my case, I buy my clothes size. And no one apart from myself has any bearing on my decision on what I wear. 👌🏽

Of course you should decide what you wear and I'm really pleased you find it comfortable. I hope all shapewear wearers (male and female) are just as comfy.

Thebigonesgetaway · 16/11/2025 21:58

Doggymummar · 16/11/2025 21:47

What's a lillet?

I thought lillets were tampons. But I can’t see how it’s funny.

thenightsky · 16/11/2025 22:18

HouseWithASeaView · 16/11/2025 20:04

I wear pants under mine. I like a nice cotton gusset against my under carriage

Cotton gusset. Yes. No other response.

Pepperedpickles · 16/11/2025 22:28

Many older women like me have incontinence issues and need to wear a pad so there’s no way I’d wear something like that without pants to keep one in place. (I have complex health issues, the incontinence isn’t curable). Having said that, I am all about comfort these days and wouldn’t want to wear something like that anyway.

Millytante · 16/11/2025 23:54

Thebigonesgetaway · 16/11/2025 21:58

I thought lillets were tampons. But I can’t see how it’s funny.

Ah well.
It was the way she took us by surprise with her inventive dedication to maintaining the intended look of her dress, and the way she (the usually retiring member of our little coven) revealed it gleefully to everyone.
She made everyone’s night, but of course you had to be there.

SoftBalletShoes · 17/11/2025 00:21

The description says A no VPL finish ensures this lingerie undergarment remains discreet under tight-fitting clothes so I think you're meant to wear it without knickers, but they are MAD to put hook and eyes under there. What the hell is wrong with poppers? I suppose the hook and eyes are flatter when closed, but imagine trying to get them closed!!!

LightandBreezy · 17/11/2025 02:27

Aren't the hook and eye fastenings just on the bra part? It doesn't say they are on the crotch.

SoftBalletShoes · 17/11/2025 03:16

LightandBreezy · 17/11/2025 02:27

Aren't the hook and eye fastenings just on the bra part? It doesn't say they are on the crotch.

The OP refers to "the lower hook and eye situation" so it seems to be hook and eye down there too. Description says "hook and eye fastenings." I think it would say if there were poppers.

knitnerd90 · 17/11/2025 03:22

Personal choice.

  1. Some of us aren't wearing shape wear because we're wearing a clingy dress; we're just smoothing out some lumps and bumps and it makes the dress hang better. In which case, VPL isn't an issue.

  2. Some of us don't find it comfortable due to the materials (especially if there's no cotton gusset). I personally do not like the split that many have. It's meant to make it easier to use the toilet, but I find it odd-feeling.

There's no-VPL knickers, if this is a concern.

LightandBreezy · 17/11/2025 03:22

@SoftBalletShoes yes, OP mentions it but the actual page on the website doesn't say anything about fasteners being on the crotch. I've had shapewear that didn't undo at the gusset.

SoftBalletShoes · 17/11/2025 03:37

LightandBreezy · 17/11/2025 03:22

@SoftBalletShoes yes, OP mentions it but the actual page on the website doesn't say anything about fasteners being on the crotch. I've had shapewear that didn't undo at the gusset.

There seems to be a fastening at the crotch if you zoom in on the photo though.

TamarindCottage · 17/11/2025 04:21

Mumdiva99 · 16/11/2025 20:27

They have cotton gussets. They are designed to be worn without underwear. The one you posted is not remotely like a thong or cheese wirey. I used to wear stuff like that in the 90's. How would you hoik the gusset to one side to go for a wee if you had knickers on too? (And yes after a couple of drunken popper incidents we all learnt to hoik and not unpop.)

This! I sew up the join at its fullest extent as in the past I’ve been unable to do up the hooks (when inebriated)

My chuff would be as hot and clammy as hell if I wore pants underneath too 🥵

Bungle2168 · 17/11/2025 04:25

HelenaWaiting · 16/11/2025 19:36

If you wear knickers, your shape wear will last longer.

How so? Is chuff chowder caustic?

@SnippySnappy I guess it all depends on whether you have the figure for it, I suppose.

InterestedDad37 · 17/11/2025 04:39

NamelessNancy · 16/11/2025 20:18

I'll believe it's a genuinely free choice when men are squeezing themselves into similar stuff at the same rates women do.

Oh it exists alright - just look for a squeezed man with overlarge moobs and a massive arse, like a hippo encased in a piece of drainpipe, who can't breathe properly and can therefore only talk in short sentences. It's usually obvious if a bloke's wearing it, despite them suddenly assuming they are 100% attractive.
So it isn't worn at the same rates as women and shapewear, but it provides far more surreptitious entertainment if you know what you're looking for 😀

FeralWoman · 17/11/2025 04:57

Bungle2168 · 17/11/2025 04:25

How so? Is chuff chowder caustic?

@SnippySnappy I guess it all depends on whether you have the figure for it, I suppose.

Not caustic but acidic. Yes it can bleach the colour out of underwear and it can create a hole in the fabric. It’s pretty common for this to happen.

NewGoldFox · 17/11/2025 07:50

Eyesopenwideawake · 16/11/2025 21:46

I'm 62 and you wouldn't catch me wearing any underwear, ever!

I’m 61 and you will never catch me tethering myself into a scrap of clothing. These cheeks were made to be seen.

Thebigonesgetaway · 17/11/2025 07:52

Goodness some out rage on the comments and some rather odd ones about going commando, I don’t wear shapewear but I think women do it to smooth out lumps and bumps and feel better in their clothing, and they do it for themselves. I don’t think this is about men v women, I think it’s about weight, and body acceptance.

theunbreakablecleopatrajones · 17/11/2025 07:57

SconehengeRevenge · 16/11/2025 20:23

I think not wearing pants is minging.

But each to their own

I dunno why it's minging - it's underwear that you'd wash every time you wear it, like pants.

But anyway if it's uncomfortable, then wear knickers with it, obviously.

theunbreakablecleopatrajones · 17/11/2025 08:01

Millytante · 16/11/2025 23:54

Ah well.
It was the way she took us by surprise with her inventive dedication to maintaining the intended look of her dress, and the way she (the usually retiring member of our little coven) revealed it gleefully to everyone.
She made everyone’s night, but of course you had to be there.

It's just made me laugh -

I don't think you had to be there, the PP just low on humour

AmyDuPlantier · 17/11/2025 08:07

Chuff chowder 🤢

Jesus Christ

SoScarletItWas · 17/11/2025 08:10

IvedoneitagainhaventI · 16/11/2025 19:48

My mother was born in 1919 . And she, and most of her contemporaries,wore all -in- one corsets or panty girdles and longline bras.

. Even when I first became a teenager some of my contemporaries wore panty girdles and my mother tried to make me wear one.

But then we had the glorious women's lib movement. Even if we didn't burn our bras we ditched all the victorian constraining underwear.

Why on earth are women these days wearing " shapewear" and such uncomfortable restricting things? Absolute retrograde nonsense.
Why do women do this to themselves?

I wear a ‘shaping slip’ under some dresses. It doesn’t feel restrictive like the old girdles or a corset (which I will also wear on occasion) - it just smooths everything out for a better line under the dress. Modern shapewear is ‘power mesh’ rather than non-stretch and boning.

IvedoneitagainhaventI · 17/11/2025 08:15

SoScarletItWas · 17/11/2025 08:10

I wear a ‘shaping slip’ under some dresses. It doesn’t feel restrictive like the old girdles or a corset (which I will also wear on occasion) - it just smooths everything out for a better line under the dress. Modern shapewear is ‘power mesh’ rather than non-stretch and boning.

But why?

You already have a "shape": your own shape.

StarlightLady · 17/11/2025 08:39

IvedoneitagainhaventI · 16/11/2025 19:48

My mother was born in 1919 . And she, and most of her contemporaries,wore all -in- one corsets or panty girdles and longline bras.

. Even when I first became a teenager some of my contemporaries wore panty girdles and my mother tried to make me wear one.

But then we had the glorious women's lib movement. Even if we didn't burn our bras we ditched all the victorian constraining underwear.

Why on earth are women these days wearing " shapewear" and such uncomfortable restricting things? Absolute retrograde nonsense.
Why do women do this to themselves?

The reason why many mothers put their teenage daughters in panty girdles and the like back in the day had little to do with maintaining a shape and more to do with keeping the boys out 😀!

Returning to the subject at hand, l wouldn’t wear knickers with the item the OP is discussing, it contains knickers built in. As for the comments on washing, the top half is so close fitting to the body l wouldn’t wear it more than once without washing anyway.

With some dresses and on certain occasions l wear a “shaping own bra slip” (M&S or John Lewis) which l find comfy and practical.

Finally, l once wore something with hook and eye fastening on the crotch, l was in a hurry after a wee as people were queuing and l deflowered myself all over again!!!!! Ouch!