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To think feminism’s biggest blind spot is female entitlement?

136 replies

FairGameJay · 11/11/2025 13:53

We talk about male privilege all the time but we rarely look at the ways women leverage social sympathy. AIBU to think equality means accountability too, even when it’s uncomfortable?

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Brefugee · 11/11/2025 13:53

examples, please?

Didntask · 11/11/2025 13:53

Example?

MakeMineADietCoke · 11/11/2025 13:54

Perhaps you could give some examples?

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 11/11/2025 13:54

Need to understand exactly what you mean before I can decide whether or not I agree with you!

Ellanory · 11/11/2025 13:54

Can you be more specific? What do you mean?

RhaenysRocks · 11/11/2025 13:55

Examples? I don't think many sincere feminists would deny some women can be badly behaved or blindly excuse any faults.

ErrolTheDragon · 11/11/2025 13:55

No idea what you’re getting at tbh. Confused

user1471464218 · 11/11/2025 13:57

Maternity leave?
Flexible working requests?
Is that what you mean?

Prelim · 11/11/2025 13:57

How did I know the username would be three capitalised words?

FairGameJay · 11/11/2025 13:59

Brefugee · 11/11/2025 13:53

examples, please?

Things like expecting emotional leniency because we’re women or using vulnerability to deflect responsibility. For example, when women make poor choices in relationships or workplaces but frame it as something ‘done to’ them rather than something they also contributed to. It’s not about blaming, just about holding both genders to the same standard of self-awareness.

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KimberleyClark · 11/11/2025 13:59

Feeling entitled to be SAHM and be financially supported by partners?

KitchenDancing · 11/11/2025 14:00

Oh Jay, go back to your Reddit incel sub.

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 11/11/2025 14:02

FairGameJay · 11/11/2025 13:59

Things like expecting emotional leniency because we’re women or using vulnerability to deflect responsibility. For example, when women make poor choices in relationships or workplaces but frame it as something ‘done to’ them rather than something they also contributed to. It’s not about blaming, just about holding both genders to the same standard of self-awareness.

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Sorry, I still don't understand. I am not really aware of women "expecting emotional lenience" (whatever that is), or "using vulnerability" (whatever that means) in ways that wouldn't equally apply to men.

Can you give us some more specific examples, as your posts are reading a bit like word salad at the moment.

ErrolTheDragon · 11/11/2025 14:09

FairGameJay · 11/11/2025 13:59

Things like expecting emotional leniency because we’re women or using vulnerability to deflect responsibility. For example, when women make poor choices in relationships or workplaces but frame it as something ‘done to’ them rather than something they also contributed to. It’s not about blaming, just about holding both genders to the same standard of self-awareness.

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i don’t see any evidence of women being more prone to this than men.

TheAutumnalCrow · 11/11/2025 14:11

FairGameJay · 11/11/2025 13:59

Things like expecting emotional leniency because we’re women or using vulnerability to deflect responsibility. For example, when women make poor choices in relationships or workplaces but frame it as something ‘done to’ them rather than something they also contributed to. It’s not about blaming, just about holding both genders to the same standard of self-awareness.

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’Both genders’?

But I thought there were over 100 genders in this wonderful new po-mo world.

Locutus2000 · 11/11/2025 14:12

KitchenDancing · 11/11/2025 14:00

Oh Jay, go back to your Reddit incel sub.

Ha, beat me to it!

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 11/11/2025 14:12

My example would be exclusion from military service if there is conscription during a war.

fwiw, I think the biggest blind spot of feminism is white feminism.

researchers3 · 11/11/2025 14:13

FairGameJay · 11/11/2025 13:59

Things like expecting emotional leniency because we’re women or using vulnerability to deflect responsibility. For example, when women make poor choices in relationships or workplaces but frame it as something ‘done to’ them rather than something they also contributed to. It’s not about blaming, just about holding both genders to the same standard of self-awareness.

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Do you seriously think women are less self aware than men?! 🤔

Ponderingwindow · 11/11/2025 14:13

I still need an actual example of what the hell you are talking about.

ImaginaryAilments · 11/11/2025 14:13

Brefugee · 11/11/2025 13:53

examples, please?

Don’t be silly, @Brefugee — this is the same tripartite-named OP as usual, posting the same clickbait.

Overtheatlantic · 11/11/2025 14:14

I’m making a chicken pie from scratch for dinner tonight.

ImaginaryAilments · 11/11/2025 14:15

Overtheatlantic · 11/11/2025 14:14

I’m making a chicken pie from scratch for dinner tonight.

Maybe if you hold it up in front of your face, it could be a feminist blind spot?

arethereanyleftatall · 11/11/2025 14:15

FairGameJay · 11/11/2025 13:59

Things like expecting emotional leniency because we’re women or using vulnerability to deflect responsibility. For example, when women make poor choices in relationships or workplaces but frame it as something ‘done to’ them rather than something they also contributed to. It’s not about blaming, just about holding both genders to the same standard of self-awareness.

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lol, so your best example is when men are really shit but manage to hide it?

ThatChristmasMug · 11/11/2025 14:18

You are on MN, your thread will attract all the posters with their "but it's all because of the PATRIARCHY" and everything and anything must be blamed on the PATRIARCHY. No accountably whatsoever. Female entitlement could only be blamed on the PATRIARCHY

Which I find quite insulting, some of us have some basic intelligence and free will, and are not just moulded by centuries of patriarchy and unable to have an original thought, or free will.

Some of us have reach equality before others I guess.

FairGameJay · 11/11/2025 14:19

researchers3 · 11/11/2025 14:13

Do you seriously think women are less self aware than men?! 🤔

Not less self-aware, just less socially expected to be self-aware in certain contexts. Men tend to get called out more directly for their behaviour, whereas women are often given the benefit of the doubt or framed as victims. That dynamic can make self-reflection harder to practice consistently.

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