The BBC should lose the license fee and be forced to operate like any other streaming service after the complete destruction of trust this week

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Thats it really, the BBC lied to us, all of us.

They edited a Trump speech to make him look like he said something he did not.

They pushed one side of the transgender debate relentlessly, deliberately hiding negative stories on detransitioners, the US WPATH file and thousands of more cases

https://archive.ph/wWdMS

https://archive.ph/uiEKW

They have cancelled people for wrong-think at every opportunity, pushed drag queens over women, turned woman hours into mens hour, constantly attacked anyone who does not share their extreme liberal left wing views and kept them off the news cycle

They have utterly and completely lost all trust, they ARE biased they DON'T give balance in the news

Everyone thought it was a conspiracy, now we know it's actually true and we have PROOF

Today the BBC Director and News Director have both quit in absolute disgrace.

It is time the BBC was consigned to the dustbin because we are never getting back to the BBC I loved and trusted, the one that ran programmes to inform and entertain and educate, that BBC is long gone.

Replace it, completely.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cd9kqz1yyxkt

In my case, barely.
Sometimes I turn the radio on in the car if I've run out of podcasts. Quite often I turn it off again, often exclaiming, 'Oh for fuck's sake! Not that again!' or 'Really? What planet are you on?'

Just watching the BBC news now. Its all about how litigious Trump is, refuting all notions of it being institutionally biased. They really don't get how angry and betrayed so many pp feel about the coverage of so many really important things. I'm beyond caring now, they deserve everything that's coming for them...

Just because Celebrity Traitors was good telly, doesn't excuse them for everything they've been doing, for years...

Hello Nigel 👏👏👏

Again, just like the comment earlier, this is not the mic drop moment you think it is and only goes to show your own biases.

For me the point is you should have the choice on whether you not you want to pay the subscription.

At the moment we have no choice but to pay the subscription even if we don't watch any BBC programs but watch live broadcast TV. This is grossly unfair.

However if the government were to change it so it were possible for people to opt out of BBC programming but keep live broadcast entitlement to pay for broadcast infrastructure etc, it would probably blow a massive hole in the BBCs funding.

I think that would finish off the beeb 1) because it would come out of an already very tight budget and 2) because I suspect many left leaning viewers will cancel rather than have any of their hard earned cash land in DJT's pockets.
My thoughts however are that a settlement won't happen. We're still a sovereign country and this type of legal action would be a very costly and complicated process. It's easier for Trump to unleash his lawyer brigade at home. I think here it would be harder.

I don't think the BBC is remotely left-wing.

It simply indulges in the most middle-class of all pursuits:
competitive virtue-signalling.

Most of the people employed by the BBC would cross the street to avoid the people they claim to stand up for.

However, those who spliced the Trump speech should be sacked at the minimum and pursued for fraud.

The taxpayer will of course be left to pick up Trump's tab regardless of which side of the political spectrum they are on.

It's really not just about this week though, is it? The scandals, deceptions and cover ups go back years and there's no indication of anything ever having been learned

Personally I've always opposed a state mouthpiece broadcaster, paid for by an effective tax, and all the horrors are to my mind what you get with such a system

The BBC should be moved out of London. That is one of the main problems, too many people working there live in a smug, middle class metropolitan bubble. It needs to be representative of the majority of British people who do not live in London or have a London viewpoint.

Do tell us why Trump should be allowed to operate as President, as a proven liar and potential criminal.

Because, like it or not (and I don’t) he, like our government, was democratically elected. It’s the BBCs job to report the news, not exaggerate or make it up. Somethimg it’s drifted away from in its desire to take sides. It”s not even as if Trump doesn’t do or say enough ridiculous, malicious, spiteful and false things anyway - why on earth did the BBC think editing his speech in a way that exaggerated what he’d said was necessary? And how stupid and arrogant do you have to be think that it won’t be spotted?

It”s not even as if Trump doesn’t do or say enough ridiculous, malicious, spiteful and false things anyway - why on earth did the BBC think editing his speech in a way that exaggerated what he’d said was necessary?

Precisely, @Tryingtokeepgoing, though remembering the glee expressed over what the BBC's original report "proved" I strongly suspect there's some second hand embarrassment going on here

Happened in 2004, partially

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaCityUK

I'm baffled by this. I've always found them biased in terms of giving Reform UK a lot of screen time when they don't have many seats. I always assumed they were right leaning. The trans stuff isn't as bad as people make out. I watched a bit of Riot Women last night and there was loads of people outraged on here about how bad it was. I was expecting it to be really OTT and pervy the way people were banging on about it and it was just a trans young person in a band 🙄

The media has always been biased. He tabloids are an utter crock of shite and have been for decades. That's why you pick multiple sources from different political leanings, and somewhere where they all cross over you find the truth.

I think it’s time we have a referendum on whether the BBC should be moved to a subscription model.

Sort of had one here. 2:1 agree.

Several million members on here... I think it is.

There is also this, which backs up mumsnet: https://www.thenational.scot/news/national/25172574.survey-suggests-people-think-supreme-court-gender-ruling-right/

This.

If you've spent any considerable time in a country without a public service broadcaster (Germany, USA, for example) you'll know how much of a priceless jewel the BBC is.

Yes, it needs reform, but then Boris Johnson shouldn't have tried to stack the board and any appointment over which he had influence.

Do you really really want the UK (and UK politics) to be run by Donald Trump and his cronies?? Really??????

What might the downsides be of your suggestions?

I think we would all agree that we don't want endless bias.

How do we best achieve that?

Replace the bbc entirely with a new organisation with a new remit and charter, one that is dedicated to only filling the gaps a commercial organisation cannot or will not fill.

that means no celebrity traitors or eastenders

is does mean verifiably balanced news.

independent from the government and funded through direct taxation like any other service to the nation is.

Just shut it down. We don't need a public service broadcaster in this day and age. There is a market for any kind of news service that people will watch and pay for.

Have you ever even run a team before, let alone a company or org?

Who is going to pay for 20,000 to be made redundant, many of whom have been there for decades?

Who is going to pay for recruiting and training 20,000 new staff?

I don't think it's possible for any media outlet to be unbiased. Even with the best of intentions, they all inevitably develop their own culture and norms. People who don't like it leave and people who do like it apply, and over time it becomes self-reinforcing, and unless they're upfront about their political positioning they probably won't even notice.

I've long since given up looking for one trustworthy news outlet. I tend to read at least two or three sources coming from different angles before I make my mind up about something.

Back in the days before Margaret Thatcher started to break the BBC up and force it to use commercial production companies it did have lots of regional departments where the producers had real commissioning power. Nowadays all the decision making it centralised and concentrated at the top, which makes it really hard to get anything made, particularly anything challenging or risky.

Another post-Thatcher problem is most of the permanent, secure jobs at the BBC are in management and administration whereas creative and technical people are on short-term contracts or are freelance. This, again, makes the culture creatively risk-averse, as the precariously employed are only as good as their last project. It also means no-one wants to speak out against BBC activist culture as they just won't be contracted again.