The BBC should lose the license fee and be forced to operate like any other streaming service after the complete destruction of trust this week

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Thats it really, the BBC lied to us, all of us.

They edited a Trump speech to make him look like he said something he did not.

They pushed one side of the transgender debate relentlessly, deliberately hiding negative stories on detransitioners, the US WPATH file and thousands of more cases

https://archive.ph/wWdMS

https://archive.ph/uiEKW

They have cancelled people for wrong-think at every opportunity, pushed drag queens over women, turned woman hours into mens hour, constantly attacked anyone who does not share their extreme liberal left wing views and kept them off the news cycle

They have utterly and completely lost all trust, they ARE biased they DON'T give balance in the news

Everyone thought it was a conspiracy, now we know it's actually true and we have PROOF

Today the BBC Director and News Director have both quit in absolute disgrace.

It is time the BBC was consigned to the dustbin because we are never getting back to the BBC I loved and trusted, the one that ran programmes to inform and entertain and educate, that BBC is long gone.

Replace it, completely.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cd9kqz1yyxkt

Yes. They keep pushing Farage, Farage, Farage, Farage, Farage. It's a constant biased Far Right agenda. They should definitely lose their licence. It would be interesting to see if Farage wades in on this considering he is the BBC's darling.

The problem is not that the majority of BBC staff check every progressive box for their personal beliefs. It’s not that they have absolutely no diversity of thoughts and worldviews. That can be managed by strong leadership making sure all staff know how to be fair and neutral in coverage and coming down hard on staff who slip up.

The problem is that the staff don’t have strong leadership. The staff and leadership team both make the same mistake- they believe that things that fall outside their progressive laundry list of world views don’t need to be given airtime at all because outside views are bigoted, racist, transphobic, Islamophobic and full of hate. They genuinely don’t see themselves as biased. They just see themselves as heroes who refuse to platform “hate”.

It’s the eternal problem- conservatives view progressives as wrong headed who need to be robustly debated. Progressives view conservatives as evil people who need to be shut up or deplatformed completely. Progressives believe they are moral to do this.

If the BBC were to disappear who would benefit more the left or right?

Didn’t Boris Johnson meddle in the appointment of the Chair of the BBC, who in turn appointed the Director General?

Like most shady circumstances can probably be traced back to that amoral, self serving bag of custard.

The BBC still doesn’t get it. This morning all of the news articles I have so far read on their website has been in relation to Trump.

I appreciate that on global terms, this s the big story, however in doing so, allows them to push the narrative that this was a one off, etc. and in one article stated that it allowed the bbc to become weaponised against.

However, this ignores the other two allegations in relation to BBC Arabic and Trans issues which point to a more long term systematic bias and not so easy to brush off as a one off mistake.

I don’t want BBC news to be defunded, I want it to be answerable to us the public but right now it is making mockery of us and the rot is deep inside.

It was in the Reform manifesto in 2024 to scrap the TV licence fee

The fact that you think that’s a mic drop insult says everything about your own biases.

I agree the rot is deep. Radio 4 is largely unlistenable to. Afternoon plays, anyone? Constant preachiness.

I totally agree OP. The difference between the BBC and other news channels like GB News is that GB News tells you what it is - they say bluntly and often that they’re ’on the right’ and it’s clear within about 60 seconds of watching where their political leaning is. On the other hand, the BBC claims to be politically neutral - when clearly it is not. Regardless of anyone’s views on Trump, I’d hope most sensible people would agree that stitching clips together to make it appear he said something he didn’t (broadcast 1 week before the election too) is a huge abuse of trust. They might have thought that by doing so they were ‘stopping Hitler’ but it’s still wrong.

I personally don’t understand the need for a public broadcaster that individuals have to pay for. Like many, I stopped watching the BBC (and live TV in general) quite some time ago and cancelled my licence. To me, a TV licence (payable under threat) is a totally outdated concept now.

Ah right, thanks. I meant wade in on this issue over Trump considering how much the BBC has benefited him.

I think broadly speaking, the BBC does seem to attract fire from all sides of the sociopolitical spectrum. So it's not necessarily "only" a left wing or right wing bias. I mean, look at the eternally ubiquitous fucking Farage and the dismal chicken-shit faux-balanced coverage over the absolute disaster of Brexit. And then look at their CBBC breathy cheery "Did you know?? There are over 100 genders!" and "I Am Leo." And now FFS they've given a golden gift to the godawful Trump and Musk 🤦‍♀️

But ultimately, if the BBC want to keep their legally-enshrined, prison-backed claim to the license fee, surely the least we can expect from them is to just report the damn news. Without suppressing inconvenient truths, without falsifying footage, without snipping out ideologically impure comments from the leader of the opposition and without marking their own homework.

I do not accept that the spliced Trump footage was a "mistake" What, like somebody tripped over a loose cable and his fingers just fell onto the editing software in just the right way to splice together the words? And then somebody else accidentally put the coffee cup onto the "broadcast" button?

It's now reported that they vetoed JKR appearng on the BBC for being "problematic". WTF

Is the BBC run by daft 6th formers who gang up on people who aren't in their gang??

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Great post

Yanbu OP. I refuse to fund an organisation that spreads dangerous misinformation and propaganda and relies on its old reputation (friendly, benign, "auntie") which no longer exists. The BBC is a shadow of its former self.

I stopped paying for a tv licence a few years ago (I no longer watch the BBC or any live tv) and I am pleased I am no longer funding this shit.

This. I can't think what possessed them to doctor the Trump recording; God knows, there is so much material available where he condemns himself out of his own mouth with no need to do anything but play the recordings straight. Yes, they get some things wrong, both from a left and a right wing point of view. But I think it is still incredibly valuable to have a broadcasting channel that is not funded by commercials and is therefore able to take risks and broadcast stuff that is not populist and aimed purely at getting high audiences for the adverts.

No, they got ex controller of Radio 4 instead. Honestly you could not make this shit up.

Literally getting an ex boss to come and defend themselves. And throughout the program kept trying to push the point that there is some boardroom conspiracy. Never once acknowledging their problem.

Its not nicknamed the “ Biased Broadcasting Corporation” for no reason! I resent being expected to fund it!

What, an emotional response like "Oh, give over" which was clearly an inappropriate reaction whichever side of the fence you're on. Shutting down debate, shutting down questioning and accountability of any public institution is very dangerous path to take. Glad you've had a rethink.

Fair point

It wasn’t meant as an insult. It was an observation.

Does the BBC have problems? Yes

Is the answer a shouty, biased free for all, like the states? Hell no.

We need to think the next steps through very very carefully, and consider who and what is pushing us to an emotional, knee jerk response.

I was speaking specifically to the particular example I quoted, and that had nothing to do with race, colour or ethnicity. Disgusting that you would bring that in.

This is ridiculous and a lie, this big live ticker news on BBC News is about this story.

And suggesting that BBC News should change their reporting processes to accommodate Panorama is bizarre, the two are separate departments.

Why can’t she use a related analogy? Why is that disgusting? What she said is true.