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The BBC should lose the license fee and be forced to operate like any other streaming service after the complete destruction of trust this week

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SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 09/11/2025 19:44

Thats it really, the BBC lied to us, all of us.

They edited a Trump speech to make him look like he said something he did not.

They pushed one side of the transgender debate relentlessly, deliberately hiding negative stories on detransitioners, the US WPATH file and thousands of more cases

https://archive.ph/wWdMS

https://archive.ph/uiEKW

They have cancelled people for wrong-think at every opportunity, pushed drag queens over women, turned woman hours into mens hour, constantly attacked anyone who does not share their extreme liberal left wing views and kept them off the news cycle

They have utterly and completely lost all trust, they ARE biased they DON'T give balance in the news

Everyone thought it was a conspiracy, now we know it's actually true and we have PROOF

Today the BBC Director and News Director have both quit in absolute disgrace.

It is time the BBC was consigned to the dustbin because we are never getting back to the BBC I loved and trusted, the one that ran programmes to inform and entertain and educate, that BBC is long gone.

Replace it, completely.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cd9kqz1yyxkt

BBC director general Tim Davie and News CEO Deborah Turness resign - live updates

Davie says "there have been some mistakes made and as director general I have to take ultimate responsibility".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cd9kqz1yyxkt

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TortillaKitty · 10/11/2025 06:55

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 10/11/2025 06:48

But they HAVE excluded FACTS.

Which FACTS? Actual FACTS, or your FACTS?

TortillaKitty · 10/11/2025 06:57

Sesma · 10/11/2025 06:54

All the left clamouring to defend the BBC, why am I not surprised.

Does that mean it is posters from the right calling for the BBC to be shut down - also not a surprise?

BlueJuniper94 · 10/11/2025 07:00

TortillaKitty · 10/11/2025 06:57

Does that mean it is posters from the right calling for the BBC to be shut down - also not a surprise?

Because they've distorted reality? Why are you defending this

BlueJuniper94 · 10/11/2025 07:01

TortillaKitty · 10/11/2025 06:55

Which FACTS? Actual FACTS, or your FACTS?

Whose facts, whose rationality, whose justice, post truth chaos 😂

Neemie · 10/11/2025 07:02

Plexie · 09/11/2025 20:08

It has been proven to be utterly unfit for purpose.

You're talking utter bollocks OP.

The amount of hyperbole on threads recently is ridiculous. I don't know if it's an influx of posters with poor critical thinking skills or people deliberately trying to stir up division. Possibly a mix of both.

I think questioning the impartiality and practices of a news service shows good critical thinking skills.

My mother loves the bbc because it reflects her own middle class left of centre views. That is completely fine but does not justify the way it is funded. It is impossible to be impartial so they should stop trying to claim it is.

Jeevesnotwooster · 10/11/2025 07:03

StandFirm · 10/11/2025 06:43

Also I think anyone who calls for us to do away with public service media is seriously deluded and naive about how things work with media that are funded by commercial/ shady corporate interests! Good luck finding transparency and impartiality there! Even so-called independents on YouTube, even those who are experienced reporters going independent, cannot completely escape the bias of their own online audience. There is always an angle somewhere and YouTube itself certainly has the power to change the algorithm so that some content is more or less visible. Public service media at least has an oversight and some degree of transparency and accountability. Doing away with it is the best way to speed up the oligarchy getting its teeth even deeper into what's left of our democracy.

Exactly. Rupert Murdoch, Nigel Farage and Elon Musk will be cheering over their cornflakes. Donald Trump will also be over the moon as the BBC is one of the most trusted news sources in the US.

TheKeatingFive · 10/11/2025 07:06

Jeevesnotwooster · 10/11/2025 07:03

Exactly. Rupert Murdoch, Nigel Farage and Elon Musk will be cheering over their cornflakes. Donald Trump will also be over the moon as the BBC is one of the most trusted news sources in the US.

That is a problem of the BBC's own making though.

We can't just turn a blind eye to the BBC's problems because of Trump. Trump makes it even more imperative that the BBC upholds its remit and maintains trust.

nomas · 10/11/2025 07:06

Neemie · 10/11/2025 07:02

I think questioning the impartiality and practices of a news service shows good critical thinking skills.

My mother loves the bbc because it reflects her own middle class left of centre views. That is completely fine but does not justify the way it is funded. It is impossible to be impartial so they should stop trying to claim it is.

It is broadly impartial.

Ofcom looks for and acts against repeated occurrences, not one offs.

A recent example of BBC’s impartiality is that half the population think BBC is pro-Palestine and half think the BBC is pro-Israel.

nomas · 10/11/2025 07:08

TheKeatingFive · 10/11/2025 07:06

That is a problem of the BBC's own making though.

We can't just turn a blind eye to the BBC's problems because of Trump. Trump makes it even more imperative that the BBC upholds its remit and maintains trust.

No one has suggested turning a blind eye. The Director General has rightly lost his job as this culture starts from the top. But calling for 20,000 people to lose their jobs is ridiculous.

Cyclebabble · 10/11/2025 07:09

In any organisation of scale mistakes will happen. This mistake is sizeable and as a result the Director General has resigned. However, generally the BBC is a great national asset and remains trusted as a great provider of news. I still trust it more than most news providers. I would not change the model on the basis of one incident.

TheKeatingFive · 10/11/2025 07:09

nomas · 10/11/2025 07:08

No one has suggested turning a blind eye. The Director General has rightly lost his job as this culture starts from the top. But calling for 20,000 people to lose their jobs is ridiculous.

I'm not calling for that, but very significant reform is needed. A couple of big heads rolling is not going to fix the fundamental issues.

BlueJuniper94 · 10/11/2025 07:12

Neemie · 10/11/2025 07:02

I think questioning the impartiality and practices of a news service shows good critical thinking skills.

My mother loves the bbc because it reflects her own middle class left of centre views. That is completely fine but does not justify the way it is funded. It is impossible to be impartial so they should stop trying to claim it is.

Am I being naive in thinking it should still be possible to be impartial? Or has that ship sailed...

borntobequiet · 10/11/2025 07:13

Sarah9967 · 09/11/2025 23:19

How or why is this a conversation on mumsnet?

Do you not think women (mothers, parents) should discuss such issues?

BlueJuniper94 · 10/11/2025 07:15

Cyclebabble · 10/11/2025 07:09

In any organisation of scale mistakes will happen. This mistake is sizeable and as a result the Director General has resigned. However, generally the BBC is a great national asset and remains trusted as a great provider of news. I still trust it more than most news providers. I would not change the model on the basis of one incident.

It's not one incident though, it's a culture within the BBC, the liberal metropolitan elite bias. It is a welcome anomaly when this isn't apparent. But if it is the water you swim in, you of course aren't going to notice it.

BlueJuniper94 · 10/11/2025 07:17

Cyclebabble · 10/11/2025 07:09

In any organisation of scale mistakes will happen. This mistake is sizeable and as a result the Director General has resigned. However, generally the BBC is a great national asset and remains trusted as a great provider of news. I still trust it more than most news providers. I would not change the model on the basis of one incident.

They're not mistakes though, they're the obvious output of their internal organisational incentive structures

BlueJuniper94 · 10/11/2025 07:20

nomas · 10/11/2025 07:08

No one has suggested turning a blind eye. The Director General has rightly lost his job as this culture starts from the top. But calling for 20,000 people to lose their jobs is ridiculous.

Disagree, the culture is those 20,000 people who do not recognise or understand what they're doing wrong. They feel they're not doing enough of it.

nomas · 10/11/2025 07:21

borntobequiet · 10/11/2025 07:13

Do you not think women (mothers, parents) should discuss such issues?

That post was bizarre, what does he/she think women should be discussing, knitting patterns and whipping up a dinner for 12 guests with an hour’s notice?

borntobequiet · 10/11/2025 07:21

TortillaKitty · 10/11/2025 06:13

And sometimes girls do. And teenagers. Not “women”.

A woman is an adult human female.
An adult is, biologically, someone who has reached sexual maturity and is able to reproduce.
Any female person capable of getting pregnant is an adult and a woman.

Try harder.

nomas · 10/11/2025 07:24

BlueJuniper94 · 10/11/2025 07:20

Disagree, the culture is those 20,000 people who do not recognise or understand what they're doing wrong. They feel they're not doing enough of it.

You think 20,000 people worked on editing one episode? 🤣 It’s more like 4 (the producer, the editor, the lawyer, the head of commissioning).

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 10/11/2025 07:28

BlueJuniper94 · 10/11/2025 07:20

Disagree, the culture is those 20,000 people who do not recognise or understand what they're doing wrong. They feel they're not doing enough of it.

Absolutely. The rot is deep. from the top to the bottom. it is the culture of The BBC that has allowed this to happen. They must be entirely disbanded and reformed under an independent, clear charter, to do the things we want them to do - inform in an unbiased balanced way. which they demonstrably do not do now.

They are way too big for what they should be.

Ask yourself this - if The BBC did NOT exist now, would you build it in the shape The BBC IS?

Clearly nobody would say yes to that.

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SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 10/11/2025 07:29

Cyclebabble · 10/11/2025 07:09

In any organisation of scale mistakes will happen. This mistake is sizeable and as a result the Director General has resigned. However, generally the BBC is a great national asset and remains trusted as a great provider of news. I still trust it more than most news providers. I would not change the model on the basis of one incident.

It does not remain trusted as a great provider of news. See the 2:1 vote to disband it, right here on this thread.

See the thousand news stories about The BBC that will appear today and tomorrow.

The trust is gone it won't come back.

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TortillaKitty · 10/11/2025 07:30

borntobequiet · 10/11/2025 07:21

A woman is an adult human female.
An adult is, biologically, someone who has reached sexual maturity and is able to reproduce.
Any female person capable of getting pregnant is an adult and a woman.

Try harder.

Would a pregnant 14 year old consider herself an adult, or would we consider her an adult? Or a woman?

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 10/11/2025 07:30

nomas · 10/11/2025 07:06

It is broadly impartial.

Ofcom looks for and acts against repeated occurrences, not one offs.

A recent example of BBC’s impartiality is that half the population think BBC is pro-Palestine and half think the BBC is pro-Israel.

It is absolutely not.

On every single culture war issue, it has a stance, a quite clear one, and it should not.

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SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 10/11/2025 07:31

TortillaKitty · 10/11/2025 07:30

Would a pregnant 14 year old consider herself an adult, or would we consider her an adult? Or a woman?

Your pointless fighting over a tiny definition just makes you look even more foolish.

Women don't have willies.

Men don't get pregnant.

Have a word with yourself.

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TortillaKitty · 10/11/2025 07:32

BlueJuniper94 · 10/11/2025 07:20

Disagree, the culture is those 20,000 people who do not recognise or understand what they're doing wrong. They feel they're not doing enough of it.

Are you writing a novel?

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