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The BBC should lose the license fee and be forced to operate like any other streaming service after the complete destruction of trust this week

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SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 09/11/2025 19:44

Thats it really, the BBC lied to us, all of us.

They edited a Trump speech to make him look like he said something he did not.

They pushed one side of the transgender debate relentlessly, deliberately hiding negative stories on detransitioners, the US WPATH file and thousands of more cases

https://archive.ph/wWdMS

https://archive.ph/uiEKW

They have cancelled people for wrong-think at every opportunity, pushed drag queens over women, turned woman hours into mens hour, constantly attacked anyone who does not share their extreme liberal left wing views and kept them off the news cycle

They have utterly and completely lost all trust, they ARE biased they DON'T give balance in the news

Everyone thought it was a conspiracy, now we know it's actually true and we have PROOF

Today the BBC Director and News Director have both quit in absolute disgrace.

It is time the BBC was consigned to the dustbin because we are never getting back to the BBC I loved and trusted, the one that ran programmes to inform and entertain and educate, that BBC is long gone.

Replace it, completely.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cd9kqz1yyxkt

BBC director general Tim Davie and News CEO Deborah Turness resign - live updates

Davie says "there have been some mistakes made and as director general I have to take ultimate responsibility".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cd9kqz1yyxkt

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ThatBlackCat · 10/11/2025 05:40

TortillaKitty · 10/11/2025 00:01

A trans man is female.

Yes, and doing the most female act possible. Being pregnant. That therefore means they're women. They can't have their cake and eat it too. Either they want to be accepted as a man, and that automatically bars them from ever being pregnant, or they want to do the most female act possible. Either way, they can't have it both ways. If a trans man is pregnant, imo they've made their choice to be a woman and perform the most female act possible, and therefore forfeited the right to be referred to as a man.

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 10/11/2025 05:42

HRTQueen · 10/11/2025 00:29

I have not said cancel the BBC

i have said the BBC’s reputation has been damaged

I expect better from the BBC a high standard of reporting as most people do that a few let their political bias influence reporting in such a stupid way is extremely disappointing and damaging

It’s not damaged. It’s destroyed in way more people’s eyes than before. This is a final nail in the coffin of the licence fee.

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ThatBlackCat · 10/11/2025 05:43

TortillaKitty · 10/11/2025 00:15

”Pregant” does, but “women” doesn’t. (I’m not here for a debate about the whys and wherefores of pregnant trans men, though, just the semantics.)

but “women” doesn’t

Yes it does. Because being pregnant is the most womanly act there is possible.

They can't have it both ways.

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 10/11/2025 05:44

ThatBlackCat · 10/11/2025 05:30

My personal opinion is that trans women arent the biggest threat to women, but that men and the wealthy are

You seem confused, @mumofoneAloneandwell . Transwomen are men. They are male with penis and testicles! Why do you think they are not men? Further, statistics from the UK, US, Canada and New Zealand all show transwomen sexually offend 5 times higher than other men.

Lastly, this is not 'Gay 2.0'. Gay men didn't take womens rights away.

Gay men didn't seek to enter female spaces.
Gay men didn't seek to take womens scholarships, awards, races and medals and records.
Gay men didn't seek to enter female only battered womens shelters (and thus retraumatising the women there) and in rape crisis groups.
Gay men didn't seek to be housed in female prisons.
Gay men didn't have male crimes are called female crimes, their crimes are not ours, and the stats are skewed.
Gay men didn't cause women to lose our definitions and are called 'breeding person', 'birthing person', 'menstruator', 'cervix haver', these terms dehumanise us.
Gay men didn't tell lesbians they must accept 'ladycock' or else they're a "sexual racist".
Gay men didn't tell children and lesbian to sterilise themselves and chop their breasts off.

So bloody well STOP comparing the malignant and toxic and dangerous Mens Rights Trans Ideology with the gay struggle. You're deeply offensive conflating the two. They are nothing alike. Even gay men say this, such as in one of the images here.

Being trans requires medical treatment (for those who choose, most just choose self-ID) and validation by others. Being gay requires no medical treatment and no validation from anyone else. I repeat, trans is NOT 'Gay 2.0'. They are in fact, polar opposites.

This is so very good we should all read it twice.

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ThatBlackCat · 10/11/2025 05:44

MidnightColours · 10/11/2025 00:16

The irony is that people on here want to shut down the BBC for breaking impartiality when it comes to the Panorama incident, but see no contradiction in defending another breach that seems to align with their views. (tedious, but saying pregnant women was not the issue, expressing a personal view during a news broadcast was)

Making a deliberate action to splice videos, is completely different from a non-verbal tic or reaction that you can't control.

That this even needs explaining stuns me.

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 10/11/2025 05:45

TortillaKitty · 09/11/2025 23:56

Just asking … when a trans man is pregnant - and this situation isn’t infrequent - isn’t the term ‘pregnant people’ more inclusive of them? If so, what is the issue with that?

Women get pregnant. Not men.

that’s the issue. Truth is the issue.

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ThatBlackCat · 10/11/2025 05:45

TortillaKitty · 10/11/2025 04:38

Many, if not most, trans men retain their uterus.

We know that. And it's because they are women.

scalt · 10/11/2025 06:08

I'm still angry about the BBC being the government's main weapon to "frighten the pants off the public" (their words, not mine) in 2020, with the completely one-sided reporting on all things to do with covid, knowing that many people trust it completely because it's the BBC, and saying exactly what the government bribed ordered them to say: no debate at all on the harms of lockdowns, blackout on the vast anti-lockdown protests which I myself attended, which I saw with my own eyes were easily hundreds of thousands of people: but all the BBC had to say was "a couple of hundred conspiracy theorists on Speaker's Corner". I abandoned Radio 4 when I had heard "corrrrrrronavirus" once too many.

TortillaKitty · 10/11/2025 06:10

ThatBlackCat · 10/11/2025 05:36

Why do we need to be 'inclusive' of everything? Inclusive, has become a dirty word. Some things should not be included. If a trans man does the most feminine thing; becomes pregnant, then they forfeit the right to be called a man, imo. We owe them nothing. We do not 'owe' it to people to be 'inclusive'.

You may not, but the BBC may have decided in their editorial policy that they do not wish to deliberately exclude any identity. And what’s with the phrase “some things should not be included”? That’s a bit dehumanising.

NoWordForFluffy · 10/11/2025 06:12

TortillaKitty · 09/11/2025 23:56

Just asking … when a trans man is pregnant - and this situation isn’t infrequent - isn’t the term ‘pregnant people’ more inclusive of them? If so, what is the issue with that?

Transmen are women. Only women get pregnant. We don't need to change the wording.

TortillaKitty · 10/11/2025 06:13

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 10/11/2025 05:45

Women get pregnant. Not men.

that’s the issue. Truth is the issue.

And sometimes girls do. And teenagers. Not “women”.

Glenthebattleostrich · 10/11/2025 06:25

I put bbc 'news' on this morning to see how they are reporting it. They are focusing on the Trump angle and ignoring all others again. Still unable to accurately report the story.

CrocsNotDocs · 10/11/2025 06:30

Glenthebattleostrich · 10/11/2025 06:25

I put bbc 'news' on this morning to see how they are reporting it. They are focusing on the Trump angle and ignoring all others again. Still unable to accurately report the story.

They scrubbed Kemi Badenoch’s specific response comments about their lack of coverage of sex and gender. That’s right. The UK opposition leader can’t even get a comment on sex and gender through.

Bookishworms · 10/11/2025 06:32

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 09/11/2025 19:51

Do tell us why the BBC should be allowed to operate given what has happened this week? So bad the director general and head of news literally resigned 10 minutes ago?

Because the principle is a good one. They just need new / better management. They are being held to account, leadership changes, there we go.

nomas · 10/11/2025 06:34

Whilst I haven’t paid the license fee in years and haven’t watched BBC in years, every news org fucks up at some point.

Remember Cathy Newman of Channel 4 lying that she had been harassed by a group of Muslim men at a mosque until CCTV proved nothing of the sort happened and that they were polite and helpful?

NoWordForFluffy · 10/11/2025 06:35

TortillaKitty · 10/11/2025 06:13

And sometimes girls do. And teenagers. Not “women”.

'Woman' is a female of any age in the Equality Act and Sex Discrimination Act.

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 10/11/2025 06:40

Bookishworms · 10/11/2025 06:32

Because the principle is a good one. They just need new / better management. They are being held to account, leadership changes, there we go.

But they have been proven hundreds of times to not even approach let alone meet that very valid and needed principle

thy all must go. All of them

start again.

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StandFirm · 10/11/2025 06:43

pointythings · 09/11/2025 20:03

Anyone who thinks Trump wasn't inciting his followers to storm the Capitol has an issue.

Editing Panorama that way was bad. But it isn't as if Trump didn't say what he was accused of saying.

Personally I don't trust the BBC - but that's because they're in the pockets of the right.

Also I think anyone who calls for us to do away with public service media is seriously deluded and naive about how things work with media that are funded by commercial/ shady corporate interests! Good luck finding transparency and impartiality there! Even so-called independents on YouTube, even those who are experienced reporters going independent, cannot completely escape the bias of their own online audience. There is always an angle somewhere and YouTube itself certainly has the power to change the algorithm so that some content is more or less visible. Public service media at least has an oversight and some degree of transparency and accountability. Doing away with it is the best way to speed up the oligarchy getting its teeth even deeper into what's left of our democracy.

StandFirm · 10/11/2025 06:44

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 10/11/2025 06:40

But they have been proven hundreds of times to not even approach let alone meet that very valid and needed principle

thy all must go. All of them

start again.

You will absolutely regret it when that happens.

BlueJuniper94 · 10/11/2025 06:46

Plexie · 09/11/2025 20:03

Because the other 99.9% of BBC output is untainted?

It isn't. Biases are clear, and fill me such rage that I'm only able to listen to the 0.01% of their output which isn't tainted yet. And standards have slipped, their news stories are littered with typos and phrases like "butt doctor".

BlueJuniper94 · 10/11/2025 06:47

StandFirm · 10/11/2025 06:44

You will absolutely regret it when that happens.

Why?

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 10/11/2025 06:48

TortillaKitty · 10/11/2025 06:10

You may not, but the BBC may have decided in their editorial policy that they do not wish to deliberately exclude any identity. And what’s with the phrase “some things should not be included”? That’s a bit dehumanising.

But they HAVE excluded FACTS.

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BlueJuniper94 · 10/11/2025 06:50

TortillaKitty · 10/11/2025 06:10

You may not, but the BBC may have decided in their editorial policy that they do not wish to deliberately exclude any identity. And what’s with the phrase “some things should not be included”? That’s a bit dehumanising.

The BBC have decided in their editorial policy that they do indeed want to exclude many people, they make no attempt to mask their sneering contempt

TortillaKitty · 10/11/2025 06:52

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 10/11/2025 06:40

But they have been proven hundreds of times to not even approach let alone meet that very valid and needed principle

thy all must go. All of them

start again.

You sound just like Elon Musk.

Sesma · 10/11/2025 06:54

All the left clamouring to defend the BBC, why am I not surprised.