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The BBC should lose the license fee and be forced to operate like any other streaming service after the complete destruction of trust this week

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SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 09/11/2025 19:44

Thats it really, the BBC lied to us, all of us.

They edited a Trump speech to make him look like he said something he did not.

They pushed one side of the transgender debate relentlessly, deliberately hiding negative stories on detransitioners, the US WPATH file and thousands of more cases

https://archive.ph/wWdMS

https://archive.ph/uiEKW

They have cancelled people for wrong-think at every opportunity, pushed drag queens over women, turned woman hours into mens hour, constantly attacked anyone who does not share their extreme liberal left wing views and kept them off the news cycle

They have utterly and completely lost all trust, they ARE biased they DON'T give balance in the news

Everyone thought it was a conspiracy, now we know it's actually true and we have PROOF

Today the BBC Director and News Director have both quit in absolute disgrace.

It is time the BBC was consigned to the dustbin because we are never getting back to the BBC I loved and trusted, the one that ran programmes to inform and entertain and educate, that BBC is long gone.

Replace it, completely.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cd9kqz1yyxkt

BBC director general Tim Davie and News CEO Deborah Turness resign - live updates

Davie says "there have been some mistakes made and as director general I have to take ultimate responsibility".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cd9kqz1yyxkt

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Namechanged999999 · 09/11/2025 23:36

NoWordForFluffy · 09/11/2025 23:33

Using the phrase 'pregnant people' isn't impartial as it's a phrase used by those who embrace gender ideology. It's also really clunky as a phrase. Pregnant women is factual.

Indeed.

BrokeGnome · 09/11/2025 23:43

Sadly I have to agree, OP. Awful bias, relentless pushing of agendas including trans, Gaza, drag queens, misogyny, and giving jobs to more than one paedophile, then quietly keeping them there even after being informed.
There are some very sick people in that organisation. The whole bloody lot should go, let's start again.
I now resent paying them a penny. This is not what I should be paying for.

TortillaKitty · 09/11/2025 23:46

HRTQueen · 09/11/2025 22:28

No we are not ffs

we expect the BBC, that is funded by the public to report honest non bias news

the edit is poor sensationalism news expected from the likes of Fox News. And the utter stupidity of this is breathtaking

the BBC is the most respectable news broadcaster in the world and their reputation from a few involved has been extremely damaged

it’s very disappointing

Except - just the other day, the OP had a thread about how amazing Grokipedia is, and how it could become the single-source of truth for the globe.

This is occurring in an environment where Musk is attempting to gain control of media by discrediting a good portion of it. He’s been doing this for a number of years.

TortillaKitty · 09/11/2025 23:56

NoWordForFluffy · 09/11/2025 23:33

Using the phrase 'pregnant people' isn't impartial as it's a phrase used by those who embrace gender ideology. It's also really clunky as a phrase. Pregnant women is factual.

Just asking … when a trans man is pregnant - and this situation isn’t infrequent - isn’t the term ‘pregnant people’ more inclusive of them? If so, what is the issue with that?

HRTQueen · 09/11/2025 23:57

TortillaKitty · 09/11/2025 23:46

Except - just the other day, the OP had a thread about how amazing Grokipedia is, and how it could become the single-source of truth for the globe.

This is occurring in an environment where Musk is attempting to gain control of media by discrediting a good portion of it. He’s been doing this for a number of years.

and some idiots on the BBC played right into their hands and damaging the BBC’s reputation

as if we don’t know how Trump and Musk are operating

plantcomplex · 09/11/2025 23:58

TortillaKitty · 09/11/2025 23:56

Just asking … when a trans man is pregnant - and this situation isn’t infrequent - isn’t the term ‘pregnant people’ more inclusive of them? If so, what is the issue with that?

Only women get pregnant. Erasing women isn't inclusive, it's misogynistic.

MidnightColours · 09/11/2025 23:59

Namechanged999999 · 09/11/2025 23:16

I agree apart from martine croxalle she was pilloried by bbc for grimacing at pregnant people. I think as she does it should be pregnant women - don’t you?

It's the grimacing that broke impartiality. She could very well just have said pregnant women, that would have been fine.

TortillaKitty · 10/11/2025 00:01

plantcomplex · 09/11/2025 23:58

Only women get pregnant. Erasing women isn't inclusive, it's misogynistic.

A trans man is female.

plantcomplex · 10/11/2025 00:01

MidnightColours · 09/11/2025 23:59

It's the grimacing that broke impartiality. She could very well just have said pregnant women, that would have been fine.

She's a human, not a robot. Do we reprimand people for lack of impartiality when they become emotional about a distressing news story?

Why wasn't the person who put "pregnant people" in the script reprimanded for their lack of impartiality?

plantcomplex · 10/11/2025 00:02

TortillaKitty · 10/11/2025 00:01

A trans man is female.

So "pregnant women" includes them.

WildLimePoet · 10/11/2025 00:05

TortillaKitty · 10/11/2025 00:01

A trans man is female.

So a woman, then.

OonaStubbs · 10/11/2025 00:06

Why do the BBC care so much about Trans? Why is it a hill they are willing to die on?

TortillaKitty · 10/11/2025 00:11

HRTQueen · 09/11/2025 23:57

and some idiots on the BBC played right into their hands and damaging the BBC’s reputation

as if we don’t know how Trump and Musk are operating

So don’t do Trump and Musk’s dirty work for them and cheer them on?

Perhaps don’t play into OP’s narrative of “BBC bad! Cancel NOW!”

Like any news organisation, it’s made mistakes. It has bias. I’m not sure why everyone is surprised by this. It curates stories to fit a particular space. It isn’t meant to represent your agenda or my agenda or Sylvia’s down the road, but everyone’s. In doing so, it can feel your personal POV isn’t being represented as it should be, but the BBC doesn’t work to an algorithm.

TortillaKitty · 10/11/2025 00:15

”Pregant” does, but “women” doesn’t. (I’m not here for a debate about the whys and wherefores of pregnant trans men, though, just the semantics.)

MidnightColours · 10/11/2025 00:16

plantcomplex · 10/11/2025 00:01

She's a human, not a robot. Do we reprimand people for lack of impartiality when they become emotional about a distressing news story?

Why wasn't the person who put "pregnant people" in the script reprimanded for their lack of impartiality?

The irony is that people on here want to shut down the BBC for breaking impartiality when it comes to the Panorama incident, but see no contradiction in defending another breach that seems to align with their views. (tedious, but saying pregnant women was not the issue, expressing a personal view during a news broadcast was)

HRTQueen · 10/11/2025 00:29

TortillaKitty · 10/11/2025 00:11

So don’t do Trump and Musk’s dirty work for them and cheer them on?

Perhaps don’t play into OP’s narrative of “BBC bad! Cancel NOW!”

Like any news organisation, it’s made mistakes. It has bias. I’m not sure why everyone is surprised by this. It curates stories to fit a particular space. It isn’t meant to represent your agenda or my agenda or Sylvia’s down the road, but everyone’s. In doing so, it can feel your personal POV isn’t being represented as it should be, but the BBC doesn’t work to an algorithm.

I have not said cancel the BBC

i have said the BBC’s reputation has been damaged

I expect better from the BBC a high standard of reporting as most people do that a few let their political bias influence reporting in such a stupid way is extremely disappointing and damaging

MidnightColours · 10/11/2025 00:31

Night night everyone, thanks for the chat.

OonaStubbs · 10/11/2025 00:35

The BBC is just a content provider nowadays, as much the people that work there may have delusions of grandeur about what they do.

Ritasueandbobtoo9 · 10/11/2025 04:33

TortillaKitty · 09/11/2025 23:56

Just asking … when a trans man is pregnant - and this situation isn’t infrequent - isn’t the term ‘pregnant people’ more inclusive of them? If so, what is the issue with that?

it is nonsense, you have to be a woman with a womb to have a baby. Motherhood matters.

TortillaKitty · 10/11/2025 04:38

Ritasueandbobtoo9 · 10/11/2025 04:33

it is nonsense, you have to be a woman with a womb to have a baby. Motherhood matters.

Many, if not most, trans men retain their uterus.

CrocsNotDocs · 10/11/2025 04:53

TortillaKitty · 10/11/2025 04:38

Many, if not most, trans men retain their uterus.

They have uteruses because they are women. Women should not be dehumanised because a small group of women have identity delusions.

RingoJuice · 10/11/2025 04:55

TempestTost · 09/11/2025 22:03

I'm inclined to agree. Though for a long time I was a huge proponent of public broadcasting. I still feel very nostalgic about it.

But the video splicing - I am not sure people really understand how egregious that was, from a journalistic standards POV. It's not just about the underlying bias it reveals. People seem to think it's normal to do that kind of thing on the news, but it absolutely isn't. You are not supposed to edit that kind of material without making it clear there is a time lapse. And especially for something so potentially important, the job of the journalist is to present the material and allow the viewers to make their own decisions about what it means.

This is basic, 1st year journalism student stuff. And back before they had degrees, journalists knew this. The idea that this was somehow a misjudgement is bs, it is much worse than that.

Plus, it looks like electoral interference. What the fuck were they thinking?

But as far as the bigger picture - I can't help notice that it was the fact that the UK has quite a varied and good quality media, with various good papers of differernt kinds and differernt political approaches, that allowed the deadlock on the gender stuff to come to the public attention at all. Had it been up to the BBC, none of it would have come out. And they have traded on their reputation to try and make it look like a fake story.

I also can't help noticing that the public broadcasters in at least three other English speaking countries are equally captured and untrustworthy.

It's shaken my belief in public broadcasting at a fundamental level.

The bigger issue is that journalists see themselves as activists pushing certain agendas that they feel are positive and get sloppy doing so. They don’t see themselves as doing neutral reporting of events

ThatBlackCat · 10/11/2025 05:30

mumofoneAloneandwell · 09/11/2025 21:40

People pushed back against gay rights, and i am sure that many at the bbc disagreed with them, but the coverage wasnt suddenly anti gay

Trans rights are coming in. Its happening, and they cannot be seen to be against that 🤷‍♀️

My personal opinion is that trans women arent the biggest threat to women, but that men and the wealthy are

Gay men and wealthy celebs use surrogates to have their babies - noone high profile is complaining

My personal opinion is that trans women arent the biggest threat to women, but that men and the wealthy are

You seem confused, @mumofoneAloneandwell . Transwomen are men. They are male with penis and testicles! Why do you think they are not men? Further, statistics from the UK, US, Canada and New Zealand all show transwomen sexually offend 5 times higher than other men.

Lastly, this is not 'Gay 2.0'. Gay men didn't take womens rights away.

Gay men didn't seek to enter female spaces.
Gay men didn't seek to take womens scholarships, awards, races and medals and records.
Gay men didn't seek to enter female only battered womens shelters (and thus retraumatising the women there) and in rape crisis groups.
Gay men didn't seek to be housed in female prisons.
Gay men didn't have male crimes are called female crimes, their crimes are not ours, and the stats are skewed.
Gay men didn't cause women to lose our definitions and are called 'breeding person', 'birthing person', 'menstruator', 'cervix haver', these terms dehumanise us.
Gay men didn't tell lesbians they must accept 'ladycock' or else they're a "sexual racist".
Gay men didn't tell children and lesbian to sterilise themselves and chop their breasts off.

So bloody well STOP comparing the malignant and toxic and dangerous Mens Rights Trans Ideology with the gay struggle. You're deeply offensive conflating the two. They are nothing alike. Even gay men say this, such as in one of the images here.

Being trans requires medical treatment (for those who choose, most just choose self-ID) and validation by others. Being gay requires no medical treatment and no validation from anyone else. I repeat, trans is NOT 'Gay 2.0'. They are in fact, polar opposites.

The BBC should lose the license fee and be forced to operate like any other streaming service after the complete destruction of trust this week
The BBC should lose the license fee and be forced to operate like any other streaming service after the complete destruction of trust this week
ThatBlackCat · 10/11/2025 05:36

TortillaKitty · 09/11/2025 23:56

Just asking … when a trans man is pregnant - and this situation isn’t infrequent - isn’t the term ‘pregnant people’ more inclusive of them? If so, what is the issue with that?

Why do we need to be 'inclusive' of everything? Inclusive, has become a dirty word. Some things should not be included. If a trans man does the most feminine thing; becomes pregnant, then they forfeit the right to be called a man, imo. We owe them nothing. We do not 'owe' it to people to be 'inclusive'.

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 10/11/2025 05:38

TortillaKitty · 09/11/2025 23:46

Except - just the other day, the OP had a thread about how amazing Grokipedia is, and how it could become the single-source of truth for the globe.

This is occurring in an environment where Musk is attempting to gain control of media by discrediting a good portion of it. He’s been doing this for a number of years.

Actually I just said Grokipedia was better than Wikipedia. Because again we can prove Wikipedia lies, only allows a very limited political view point that does not represent the country or the world or indeed the truth. A lot like the BBC. Have proof.

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